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Any hints of tips on mounting the sheaths back on the skull plate both for the taxidermist later and to keep from shrinking before measurement as much as possible. I think most taxidermists use plaster, but any tips would be appreciated. Center of the Nation Outfitters | ||
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Calvin, That is a question I would ask you! Actually call Tom Hardesty/Atcheson Taxidermy in Butte 406-782-0569 He's been mounting goats for 44 years and has done 2 for me one of which you might recognize. He's very approachable and would be more than glad to give you whatever info you needed. Tell him I referred you or maybe that would not be a good idea as I think I owe him money. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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You might like this one Mark, He is 16 1/2 tall with 7 7/8 bases. He grosses 90 green and I don't want him to shrink up much before measuring. Shot him day before yesterday in the Red Desert. BTW if you are going to be home to accept a shipment I will get one sent to you this week. CT  Center of the Nation Outfitters | |||
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Cal, Great looking goat again! If Mark's guy can't help you out this guy can help. My friend from AZ is a top notch taxidermist that has mounted some big AZ antelope and probably has some tips for you. His name is Clay Goldman http://www.mogollontaxidermy.com/ Call him and tell him I sent you and he would be glad to talk to you. Jeremy Jeremy Gugelmeyer www.sagebrushhunts.com | |||
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most of the guys just freeze them and then take them out of the freezer just in time to measure. its called cheating | |||
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Butch, I have had that recomendation several times already, but I'm going to stay above board! Nice to see you on here though! Center of the Nation Outfitters | |||
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My brother shot a 15+" lope that sat in our taxidermist's freezer for 12+ months. When it came out and was mounted the horns were a good 2" shorter. We know that the horns weren't switched because they had very distinctive prongs. Does anyone know what caused that? Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Calvin, Yikes! Just a beautiful goat. Is that your best? I'm not letting any client see anything like that. I'm home all the time until 28 Oct. Let me know what it all costs for the shipping and I'll send a check. Congrats! Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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By far my best Mark, best I have ever seen alive or dead. Potentially will be in the top 10 or 15 ever killed in Wyoming and possibly top 50 or so all time ever anywhere. Center of the Nation Outfitters | |||
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I have some 25 year old horns that have maybe shrunk 1/4" from when shot.Some were in the freezer a couple years before mounted.Sounds fishy to me. | |||
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I've had them shrink more in the freezer than at room temps. I think he is a nice antelope but he is no where near a 90" one in my opinion. Ground shrinkage is the most severe type. Dr.C At Home on the Range-Texas Panhandle | |||
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Doccash, I realize that in that picture he doesn't look like what he is. But rest assured I'm familiar with measuring antelope and the first measurement of just over 90 inches was by a friend of mine. I just wrote down the numbers. I re scored him here again a couple times and he hasn't grossed less than 89 6/8 measuring him to as correct as I think possible. Now I'm well aware that he will shrink slightly in the next 60 days and the official B and C measurement can vary slightly. I still don't think he will net less that 88 no matter what. I will post a few more pictures as soon as I can. Center of the Nation Outfitters | |||
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I always fill the horns with borax, I think that it is a recommended procedure. Dr.C At Home on the Range-Texas Panhandle | |||
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 A picture for scale. Never heard the borax deal. I just went ahead and filled them with plaster and put them back on the skull plate. Thats what a taxidermist that does alot of big heads reccomended.  Center of the Nation Outfitters | |||
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The red desert is a great place to hunt i hunted that area 3 years in a row years ago when it was all checkerboard. The atlantic rim to the red desert is a magical place w/ a lot of memories for me.  At Home on the Range-Texas Panhandle | |||
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No more comments on how it's not a 90 inch goat? I realize the pic I posted isn't the best, but with a self timer and by myself it was the best I could do. But it does amaze me that it can be scored from a picture and be more accurate than the guy that has had a tape on it. Center of the Nation Outfitters | |||
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Let me tell you the rest of the story about the guy with the tape in his hand.At the CS ranch in Springer n.m. a few years ago all the hunters were elated that they had all killed record book antelope. They were nice ones for sure but not 82" ones for sure . After a conversation with the guides and a review of how they "measured" the antelope, they were taking three circumferance measurements below the prong! Guess what that makes a lot of inches! I was trying to be nice but since you got pissy: your antelope has nothing on top but large bases and big prongs. Noway will make 82" much less 90" Imo Dr.C At Home on the Range-Texas Panhandle | |||
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Although I can't come up with 90 inches, that is one GREAT buck. Congrats. Tony Mandile - Author "How To Hunt Coues Deer" | |||
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Hey Doc, See if your calculator is working. C1 7 6/8 C2 7 6/8 C3 4 Above the cutter! C4 2 5/8 Cutter across the top to back center as per B&C book 6 4/8 Length 16 4/8 Left Horn C1 7 6/8 C2 7 5/8 C3 3 7/8 C4 2 6/8 Cutter 6 1/8 Length 16 4/8 Once again green gross. Beyond that I have nothing more to say on the subject. Kind of like argueing with a pig. You can't win and the pig enjoys it. I WILL however post the official after the drying period in November or December. Center of the Nation Outfitters | |||
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Very nice Antelope Cal, congrats! Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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Point well taken Cal, but its not that I don't believe your numbers, I just don't believe those numbers go with the antelope pictured in this thread, sorry, Dr.C At Home on the Range-Texas Panhandle | |||
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Cal, What's your guess as to the score of this buck? For some reference, both horns have been officially scored at 20 6/8". Side view:  Tony Mandile - Author "How To Hunt Coues Deer" | |||
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OutdoorWriter:Now there is something to this guy although a little light, he will score 88 to 91 inches Imo. Dr.C At Home on the Range-Texas Panhandle | |||
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Well the first "official" score is in. Just had an SCI measurer score officially at 89 1/8. I still have a month or so before I can have it measured for B&C. So I guess I must have been fairly close with my 89 to 90 inch gross score. See you in the record books! Center of the Nation Outfitters | |||
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Guys, I know you guys don't know Calvin but I do. I've hunted with him 3 times myself and have had several happy clients with him each year for the last 7 years. He is the most conservative on measurements of any outfitter we work with. I don't claim to be an antelope expert but if Cal tells me that goat scored 90 B&C green I would believe him unconditionally. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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Congrats Cal! | |||
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Borax will cure a hide so it might work on Antelope horns.. It is used a lot in Mexico to cure goat hides in the small communities. the hides are a tad stiff but they never spoil of slip the hair so treated..I had a unborn fawn hide for years that a Mexican cowboy gave me, it lasted for years until my dog found it..He simply rubbed Borax into the hide the same as you do salt..He also have me a rattle snake skin so treated and it lasted a long time. Seems to me its better than salt??????? but I am not a taxidermist. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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That is a realy great goat. HUGE BASE!!! ________________________________________________ Maker of The Frankenstud Sling Keeper Proudly made in the USA Acepting all forms of payment | |||
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