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Originally posted by darkside:
Ummm that growth is not on his body, its a club drop tine that eventually got busted off.

It wasn't a drop tine, it was a blood sack that just dangled there. It burst when he shed the velvet

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It wasn't a drop tine, it was a blood sack that just dangled there. It burst when he shed the velvet

Sounds like one hell of a hemroid in a bad spot.

For someone with a moniker that just oozes a sense of superiority, one might think you have at least a bit of intelligence. On the other hand, you make some unbelievably stupid statements. Welcome to my ignore list. You are in good company...

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For someone with a moniker that just oozes a sense of superiority, one might think you have at least a bit of intelligence. On the other hand, you make some unbelievably stupid statements. Welcome to my ignore list. You are in good company...

Who would have thought someone would get their paties in a twist over one of the most harmless posts I have ever made on here? Some people need to relaxe badly. Good luck Doubless. I hope you make it out of childhood.

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It wasn't a drop tine, it was a blood sack that just dangled there. It burst when he shed the velvet

ewww

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Originally posted by perry:

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Originally posted by Flags:
The really neat thing about this buck is that he lives on public ground. It may be in the city limits but it is still public ground. He wasn't raised behind a fence or fed straight out of a corn feeder. Nobody ever pumped him full of supplements or selectively bred his daddy to his momma.

He is as nature intended he be. Spectacular and a wonderful testament to the power of nature.

Since when is living off of Home Depot landscaping natural???? I'd call IRRIGATED roses and St.Augustine grass supplemental.

Perry

Incapable of reading the accompaning article are you? The deer moved all over the area. He was mostly photographed in town becaue that is where he was most visible for taking pics. But the deer moved into other areas as well. Mulies, unlike whitetails, tend to move around.

Take a minute and read the article about the guy that eventually recovered the sheds. It sure wasn't in a parking lot. Besides none of that detracts from my stated fact that this deer came about naturally and not through the efforts of man like a lot of big deer do.

Man, some of you guys are dense.

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Originally posted by Flags:

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Originally posted by perry:

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Originally posted by Flags:
The really neat thing about this buck is that he lives on public ground. It may be in the city limits but it is still public ground. He wasn't raised behind a fence or fed straight out of a corn feeder. Nobody ever pumped him full of supplements or selectively bred his daddy to his momma.

He is as nature intended he be. Spectacular and a wonderful testament to the power of nature.

Since when is living off of Home Depot landscaping natural???? I'd call IRRIGATED roses and St.Augustine grass supplemental.

Perry

Incapable of reading the accompaning article are you? The deer moved all over the area. He was mostly photographed in town becaue that is where he was most visible for taking pics. But the deer moved into other areas as well. Mulies, unlike whitetails, tend to move around.

Take a minute and read the article about the guy that eventually recovered the sheds. It sure wasn't in a parking lot. Besides none of that detracts from my stated fact that this deer came about naturally and not through the efforts of man like a lot of big deer do.

Man, some of you guys are dense.

A little tongue and cheek humor...lighten up!

But for argument sake I don't see the connection or my percieved disconnect between the deer eating people's well irrigated landscaping and the article about the deer moving around???? I did read it in it's entirety. Please explain.

And I have to stand by my humor/comment that eating landscaping would be considered supplemental by most accounts. Last time I check begonias do not grow native in Colorado .

Perry

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Originally posted by perry:

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Originally posted by Flags:

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Originally posted by perry:

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Originally posted by Flags:
The really neat thing about this buck is that he lives on public ground. It may be in the city limits but it is still public ground. He wasn't raised behind a fence or fed straight out of a corn feeder. Nobody ever pumped him full of supplements or selectively bred his daddy to his momma.

He is as nature intended he be. Spectacular and a wonderful testament to the power of nature.

Since when is living off of Home Depot landscaping natural???? I'd call IRRIGATED roses and St.Augustine grass supplemental.

Perry

Incapable of reading the accompaning article are you? The deer moved all over the area. He was mostly photographed in town becaue that is where he was most visible for taking pics. But the deer moved into other areas as well. Mulies, unlike whitetails, tend to move around.

Take a minute and read the article about the guy that eventually recovered the sheds. It sure wasn't in a parking lot. Besides none of that detracts from my stated fact that this deer came about naturally and not through the efforts of man like a lot of big deer do.

Man, some of you guys are dense.

A little tongue and cheek humor...lighten up!

But for argument sake I don't see the connection or my percieved disconnect between the deer eating people's well irrigated landscaping and the article about the deer moving around???? I did read it in it's entirety. Please explain.

And I have to stand by my humor/comment that eating landscaping would be considered supplemental by most accounts. Last time I check begonias do not grow native in Colorado .

Perry

Didn't you see the pics of that buck in the brush and light timber? How about the pic where the first shed was found? Niether of those look like any yard or parking lot I ever saw. This buck moved from town to natural habitat. But he was never restricted or caged.

My point is that this fantastic deer grew into what he is naturally. How many times have you seen a picture of a buck in a magazine that, upon reading, was found to be pen raised or pumped full of supplements or was selectively bred? This didn't happen on this buck and he is one of the biggest mulies ever measured.

It is nice to read about a deer like this when so many others have been manipulated by the hand of man. I'll take a natural buck any day.

He's a town buck that grew big antlers. People feed these bucks year round

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Originally posted by drummondlindsey:
He's a town buck that grew big antlers. People feed these bucks year round

I agree Drummond but these are backyard nature lovers who put out food to see the deer, they aren't trophy horn growers. I'd be very surprised if anyone was feeding him "Monster Horn Grow" or "Deercaine" my guess is they are feeding junk from the pet store to him and any other deer in the neighborhood.

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Originally posted by drummondlindsey:
He's a town buck that grew big antlers. People feed these bucks year round

Sorta my point. The feed may not be Antlermax out of a bag but his diet was definitely supplemented. Which to me does not detract from his beauty at all! BUT to those who scorn others for feeding can not consider him a true trophy in good conscience.

Perry

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Originally posted by Flags:

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Originally posted by perry:

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Originally posted by Flags:

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Originally posted by perry:

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Originally posted by Flags:
The really neat thing about this buck is that he lives on public ground. It may be in the city limits but it is still public ground. He wasn't raised behind a fence or fed straight out of a corn feeder. Nobody ever pumped him full of supplements or selectively bred his daddy to his momma.

He is as nature intended he be. Spectacular and a wonderful testament to the power of nature.

Since when is living off of Home Depot landscaping natural???? I'd call IRRIGATED roses and St.Augustine grass supplemental.

Perry

Incapable of reading the accompaning article are you? The deer moved all over the area. He was mostly photographed in town becaue that is where he was most visible for taking pics. But the deer moved into other areas as well. Mulies, unlike whitetails, tend to move around.

Take a minute and read the article about the guy that eventually recovered the sheds. It sure wasn't in a parking lot. Besides none of that detracts from my stated fact that this deer came about naturally and not through the efforts of man like a lot of big deer do.

Man, some of you guys are dense.

A little tongue and cheek humor...lighten up!

But for argument sake I don't see the connection or my percieved disconnect between the deer eating people's well irrigated landscaping and the article about the deer moving around???? I did read it in it's entirety. Please explain.

And I have to stand by my humor/comment that eating landscaping would be considered supplemental by most accounts. Last time I check begonias do not grow native in Colorado .

Perry

Didn't you see the pics of that buck in the brush and light timber? How about the pic where the first shed was found? Niether of those look like any yard or parking lot I ever saw. This buck moved from town to natural habitat. But he was never restricted or caged.

My point is that this fantastic deer grew into what he is naturally. How many times have you seen a picture of a buck in a magazine that, upon reading, was found to be pen raised or pumped full of supplements or was selectively bred? This didn't happen on this buck and he is one of the biggest mulies ever measured.

It is nice to read about a deer like this when so many others have been manipulated by the hand of man. I'll take a natural buck any day.

I did see those pics and it is obvious this deer is smart enough to know were the goods are. It is not natural for a deer to lounge in a parking lot or put up with the occasional stray dog chase unless there were some goods to be had.

I agree with you about the selective breeding and pen raised animals BUT not the supplement feeding part. Giving a deer what his body needs to reach highest potential, whether it be Antlermax or roses, is cool to see the results.

Perry

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Originally posted by Snellstrom:

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Originally posted by drummondlindsey:
He's a town buck that grew big antlers. People feed these bucks year round

I agree Drummond but these are backyard nature lovers who put out food to see the deer, they aren't trophy horn growers. I'd be very surprised if anyone was feeding him "Monster Horn Grow" or "Deercaine" my guess is they are feeding junk from the pet store to him and any other deer in the neighborhood.

I'm sure nobody is feeding these deer anything to try and enhance antler growth. I guess my point is that this deer doesn't have the same types of challenges that your average "public land" buck has.

Flags tries to make the claim that it lives on public ground when in reality it's just a town buck. This buck isn't looking over it's shoulder every day looking for hungry kitty's or guys trying to kill him. He isn't in deep snow getting pushed around by people wanting to watch him drop his antlers. He doesn't have to work for his food like other public land deer have to do on the wintering grounds. He eats what the homeowners feed him and whatever else he can find. With the exception of this year he hasn't been pushed around by people, his primary concern was not getting run over by a car. I firmly believe that stress levels have a profound impact on a bucks development. This buck is not stressed

If you look at areas where deer have good genetics, plenty of food, no pressure to speak of and, most importantly, allowed the opportunity to grow old you'll find GIANT mule deer. I'm not trying to take away from what this deer is, he's an absolute giant, but your comparing apples to oranges IMO if you compare him to a buck that lives in a true public land setting. Just my .02

Drummond

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I firmly believe that stress levels have a profound impact on a bucks development. This buck is not stressed

True. No doubt stress is energy lost, and it takes an aweful lot of energy to grow that much antler.