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| I had the exact same thing happen with Sports Afield 15 years ago.
The offer was for a free magazine with no obligation to subscribe. Well, I get the free magazine and a month later a bill shows up for a subscription.
I send the bill back with a nice letter explaining that I didn't want to subscribe.
More invoices, then on to "collection". I never paid and the letters quit coming. |
| Posts: 2034 | Location: Black Mining Hills of Dakota | Registered: 22 June 2005 | 
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| This is one of the oldest telemarketing scams around. They hope that some large % of people who take the free one will just pay the bill when it comes. probably 1/2 the ones who get the collection notice are scared and pay the bill. My philosophy is NEVER take a free magazine.
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| Posts: 2622 | Location: Western New York | Registered: 30 December 2003 | 
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| if it isn't in writing (your agreement to subscribe or purchase), it doesn't mean squat. i married an attorney and she reminds me once each year on things like this (and a far more often on other stuff). |
| Posts: 678 | Location: lived all over | Registered: 06 January 2005 | 
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| I am a lifetime member of Buckmasters...joined when it was $200 bucks way back when. It was decent at best back then, but is purely trash now in my opinion. I am so sick of the "me & joe" articles I could puke. They are more predictable than my wife's movies on the lifetime channel! I do appreciate their efforts with the disabled persons though...very noble of them.
I get the magazine...take it to the thunderpot and glance through it and send it on to file 13 anymore, as there might be one article I enjoy all year....their articles just don't interest me anymore. And if Jackie aint a dingaling I'm a Chinese rocket pilot. What a goofball. |
| Posts: 373 | Location: Leesburg, GA | Registered: 22 October 2005 | 
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| quote: Originally posted by Ivan: I had one of these jokers call me a couple years ago. They where hocking subscriptions and the proceeds where suposed to go to the make a wish foundation or what ever it is for sick kids. Anway I said I don't read many magazines and really don't like reading about whitetial hunting... I asked if it was possible to just donate the amount for the subscriptoin instead of signing up and the kids only getting a protion of it. They told me that I coudn't do that. I asked about where these programs were taking place, as I would like to donate time and energy if possible... they said they didn't know. I asked what the F are you selling then? Sounds to me like you're just out to sell off subscriptoins and are using the kids as a crutch and should be ashamed of yourself.
I then wrote an email to the VP of Buckmasters and got in a heated debate about it and low and behold he told me that there was no pleasing me and that I was flat out wrong. He would not answer the question why I coudn't just donate money through them instead of buying their garbage... I told him that he was a worthless POS... end of story. F Jackie Bushman and all his chronnies!
I hope it wasn't Make a Wish Foundation for which they were raising money. They don't allow terminally ill kids to make their last wish a hunting trip. Hunt of a Lifetime (huntofalifetime.org) does do this. I donated a ticket to kid from Ohio so he could go bear hunting. He got his bear on the last day of the hunt. |
| Posts: 7590 | Location: Arizona and off grid in CO | Registered: 28 July 2004 | 
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| Hunt of a Lifetime is a good organization, I am familiar with their work. A friend of mine does a lot of volonteering for them and helps with the kids hunts. Buckmasters, Texas Trophy Hunters, and various other "foudations" are for profit organizations that are out to make money. They make bubba believe he's on a team or a member of an association because he has a sticker on his truck. They do very little actual conservation work that isn't self serving.
The Hunt goes on forever, the season never ends.
I didn't learn this by reading about it or seeing it on TV. I learned it by doing it.
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| Posts: 729 | Location: Central TX | Registered: 22 April 2005 | 
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| quote: Originally posted by ELKMAN2: Those are the tactics the North American Hunting Club uses all the time.
Yeah, they kept sending me free issues. I received their magazine for almost a year before they realized I wasn't interested in a subscription and wasn't going to pay. |
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| quote: Originally posted by ELKMAN2: Those are the tactics the North American Hunting Club uses all the time.
This is the one I have experienced.... they sent me to collections before I even got the first bill! Almost as bad as some doctors' offices.... |
| Posts: 16144 | Location: Southern Oregon USA | Registered: 04 January 2005 | 
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| quote: Originally posted by Reloader: IMO Petersen's is much better.
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I beg to differ. Petersen's does this also. Last year, you got a free one-year subscription to HUNTING at the SCI. It was automatically renewable. Just try to cancel it! It took me three months to do so. I am smarter now (LOL). This year I didn't sign up for the free Outdoor Life subscription at the Harrisburg show.
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| Posts: 853 | Location: St. Thomas, Pennsylvania, USA | Registered: 08 January 2004 | 
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| I always thought J Bushman was a flake anyway, hunting tame deer with his pressed jeans, etc. I don't think he's a hunter, just a TV joker making a buck. I wouldn't give a quarter for the mag anyway and his show sucks.
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| Posts: 2788 | Location: gallatin, mo usa | Registered: 10 March 2001 | 
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| Got some friends who know him who agree with you jstevens. He was a tennis pro who just saw a business opportunity a'la Bassmasters and consulted with Ray Scott on how to bring the idea off.
My all time favorite scene was him carrying on like a little sissyboy around those rattlesnakes, proving that the leggings he had on would deflect their fangs. When they struck, he squeeled like the biggest brokeback guy you ever heard.
What a goober. |
| Posts: 373 | Location: Leesburg, GA | Registered: 22 October 2005 | 
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| Buckmasters are just "slicky boy bubbas" preying on "chump Bubbas".
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks" Hamlet III/ii
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| Posts: 423 | Location: Eastern Washington State | Registered: 16 March 2006 | 
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| I'm glad to hear that other people have opinions of Bushman which are similar to mine. He's a jerk! Some friends and I leased a ranch in Montana for almost 15 years until Buckmasters found out about it and moved in and were able to put the "slick talk" and big bucks on the rancher. To make a long story short, they bought the ranch and we've been searching for a "home" ever since. If I ever get a chance to meet the prick face to face, I think I'll try to make him a necktie from his asshole!  Bull1 |
| Posts: 405 | Location: North Carolina, USA | Registered: 25 July 2004 | 
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| Hello the camp: We have also had this problem with Buckmasters. This has gone on for several years. On the other hand, I have a subscription to American Woodwoker that I got through a friends daughter for Girl Scouts or some such. My one year subscription was over about ten years ago and they keep sending it with no bill. Go figure. Judge Sharpe
Is it safe to let for a 58 year old man run around in the woods unsupervised with a high powered rifle?
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