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Applications are now being accepted, June 4 is the deadline.

Deer/Sheep and some other ancillary stuff I don't normally draw for.


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The wait.
Then the disappointment.
 
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The wait.
Then the disappointment.


Usually, yes. But this year is different for me. I have an Antelope tag in my pocket for September already. The Mule Deer area I am drawing for is 4 bonus points to be sure thing and I have three, so I'm right there. Then Sheep, yeah....never.


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An antelope tag in Arizona is almost as hard to draw as a sheep tag. Don’t say never on the sheep tap - I drew a Cabeza Prieta desert tag last year with 26 points.
 
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An antelope tag in Arizona is almost as hard to draw as a sheep tag. Don’t say never on the sheep tap - I drew a Cabeza Prieta desert tag last year with 26 points.


I had 30 BP for Antelope and still didn't draw my 1st choice, which was 5B. Drew 6A which has really produced some nice rams last few years.

For those that don't understand the Arizona system, that's 30 years of waiting. Actually only 28, I have 2 permanent BP's for some AZGFD programs. I have 29 for Sheep. I like units 39E & 39W . They're close for me and I know where the sheep tend to be.


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My 12 year old drew the Cabeza last year with 3 points. Sheep can happen at any time or never for some folks. That’s 3 AZ sheep tags in our house in the last 9 years. None with above 25 points. Playing the odds no matter how small the difference has paid off. Then again my wife has 31 antelope points and probably a few years before she draws 5B.
 
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I have 14 for Pronghorn, put in a bunch before bonus points. Not really enough but hopefull.

11 Elk. I don’t hunt because I’m hungry so I only put in for the early Unit 10 trophy hunt.

Got drawn for elk many years in 80’s. We had no clue of how to hunt. Wandered in woods with guns.
 
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I have 14 for Pronghorn, put in a bunch before bonus points. Not really enough but hopefull.

11 Elk. I don’t hunt because I’m hungry so I only put in for the early Unit 10 trophy hunt.

Got drawn for elk many years in 80’s. We had no clue of how to hunt. Wandered in woods with guns.



Have you done the "Ethically Hunting Arizona" course? its good for a permanent BP. Some pretty good deer units can be had with 3-4 BP's. If you have 2 permanent BP's (one loyalty and on ethically hunting course) you can go almost every year and hunt pretty good units. Or you're already 2 BP into waiting for a prime unit like 12's and 13's

Draw results are out. I drew 44A for Mule Deer. its a desert Mule Deer hunt with some exceptional deer. Not terribly difficult to find bucks. Hope for heat in early November.

6A for Antelope. Have a pretty good fall lining up. Also have two trips to the Amazon this fall. I had 30 BP.

Unit 10 is worth waiting for (as is 9) I usually will only put in for archery Elk hunts, which doubles your odds or halves the wait.


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Originally posted by Mark Clark:
I have 14 for Pronghorn, put in a bunch before bonus points. Not really enough but hopefull.

11 Elk. I don’t hunt because I’m hungry so I only put in for the early Unit 10 trophy hunt.

Got drawn for elk many years in 80’s. We had no clue of how to hunt. Wandered in woods with guns.



Have you done the "Ethically Hunting Arizona" course? its good for a permanent BP. Some pretty good deer units can be had with 3-4 BP's. If you have 2 permanent BP's (one loyalty and on ethically hunting course) you can go almost every year and hunt pretty good units. Or you're already 2 BP into waiting for a prime unit like 12's and 13's

Draw results are out. I drew 44A for Mule Deer. its a desert Mule Deer hunt with some exceptional deer. Not terribly difficult to find bucks. Hope for heat in early November.

6A for Antelope. Have a pretty good fall lining up. Also have two trips to the Amazon this fall. I had 30 BP.

Unit 10 is worth waiting for (as is 9) I usually will only put in for archery Elk hunts, which doubles your odds or halves the wait.


Steve, I’m waiting on 9 archery with 26 non-res points. Just did a BP this year since Sept doesn’t work for me this year. Son & I each sitting on 27 sheep points.
 
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Originally posted by Mark Clark:
I have 14 for Pronghorn, put in a bunch before bonus points. Not really enough but hopefull.

11 Elk. I don’t hunt because I’m hungry so I only put in for the early Unit 10 trophy hunt.

Got drawn for elk many years in 80’s. We had no clue of how to hunt. Wandered in woods with guns.



Have you done the "Ethically Hunting Arizona" course? its good for a permanent BP. Some pretty good deer units can be had with 3-4 BP's. If you have 2 permanent BP's (one loyalty and on ethically hunting course) you can go almost every year and hunt pretty good units. Or you're already 2 BP into waiting for a prime unit like 12's and 13's

Draw results are out. I drew 44A for Mule Deer. its a desert Mule Deer hunt with some exceptional deer. Not terribly difficult to find bucks. Hope for heat in early November.

6A for Antelope. Have a pretty good fall lining up. Also have two trips to the Amazon this fall. I had 30 BP.

Unit 10 is worth waiting for (as is 9) I usually will only put in for archery Elk hunts, which doubles your odds or halves the wait.


Steve, I’m waiting on 9 archery with 26 non-res points. Just did a BP this year since Sept doesn’t work for me this year. Son & I each sitting on 27 sheep points.


26 NR BP's for unit 9 seems excessive. I drew unit 10, 8-9 years ago with 10 BP. I realize you're drawing NR but it still seems like you should have drawn at mid-high teens?

Unit 9 is very tough without the rut. Very thick and almost nowhere to effectively glass. But if the rut is going, holy crap!! your chances at a high 300-low 400 bull are good.


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I have 14 for Pronghorn, put in a bunch before bonus points. Not really enough but hopefull.

11 Elk. I don’t hunt because I’m hungry so I only put in for the early Unit 10 trophy hunt.

Got drawn for elk many years in 80’s. We had no clue of how to hunt. Wandered in woods with guns.



Have you done the "Ethically Hunting Arizona" course? its good for a permanent BP. Some pretty good deer units can be had with 3-4 BP's. If you have 2 permanent BP's (one loyalty and on ethically hunting course) you can go almost every year and hunt pretty good units. Or you're already 2 BP into waiting for a prime unit like 12's and 13's

Draw results are out. I drew 44A for Mule Deer. its a desert Mule Deer hunt with some exceptional deer. Not terribly difficult to find bucks. Hope for heat in early November.

6A for Antelope. Have a pretty good fall lining up. Also have two trips to the Amazon this fall. I had 30 BP.

Unit 10 is worth waiting for (as is 9) I usually will only put in for archery Elk hunts, which doubles your odds or halves the wait.


Steve, I’m waiting on 9 archery with 26 non-res points. Just did a BP this year since Sept doesn’t work for me this year. Son & I each sitting on 27 sheep points.


26 NR BP's for unit 9 seems excessive. I drew unit 10 8-9 years ago with 10 BP. I realize you're drawing NR but it still seems like you should have drawn at mid-high teens?

Unit 9 is very tough without the rut. Very thick and almost nowhere to effectively glass. But if the rut is going, holy crap!! your chances at a high 300-low 400 bull are good.



Steve, I was holding out for early rifle or muzzleloader in 9, due to having a partially torn rotator cuff. But, I’ve spent a lot of time building strength and I believe the archery hunt is the best chance to kill a giant. I can shoot a bow up to about 60 pounds these days. I’ve hunted 9 several times in September and believe it’s one of the very finest big bull hunts in North America. Saw the absolute largest bull I’ve ever seen anywhere, a giant 7x7, on a bow hunt in 9 back around 1992. Didn’t get him killed but was certain he was comfortably over 400. Had him broadside at 35 yards but no shot opportunity.
 
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I have 14 for Pronghorn, put in a bunch before bonus points. Not really enough but hopefull.

11 Elk. I don’t hunt because I’m hungry so I only put in for the early Unit 10 trophy hunt.

Got drawn for elk many years in 80’s. We had no clue of how to hunt. Wandered in woods with guns.



Have you done the "Ethically Hunting Arizona" course? its good for a permanent BP. Some pretty good deer units can be had with 3-4 BP's. If you have 2 permanent BP's (one loyalty and on ethically hunting course) you can go almost every year and hunt pretty good units. Or you're already 2 BP into waiting for a prime unit like 12's and 13's

Draw results are out. I drew 44A for Mule Deer. its a desert Mule Deer hunt with some exceptional deer. Not terribly difficult to find bucks. Hope for heat in early November.

6A for Antelope. Have a pretty good fall lining up. Also have two trips to the Amazon this fall. I had 30 BP.

Unit 10 is worth waiting for (as is 9) I usually will only put in for archery Elk hunts, which doubles your odds or halves the wait.


Steve, I’m waiting on 9 archery with 26 non-res points. Just did a BP this year since Sept doesn’t work for me this year. Son & I each sitting on 27 sheep points.


26 NR BP's for unit 9 seems excessive. I drew unit 10 8-9 years ago with 10 BP. I realize you're drawing NR but it still seems like you should have drawn at mid-high teens?

Unit 9 is very tough without the rut. Very thick and almost nowhere to effectively glass. But if the rut is going, holy crap!! your chances at a high 300-low 400 bull are good.



Steve, I was holding out for early rifle or muzzleloader in 9, due to having a partially torn rotator cuff. But, I’ve spent a lot of time building strength and I believe the archery hunt is the best chance to kill a giant. I can shoot a bow up to about 60 pounds these days. I’ve hunted 9 several times in September and believe it’s one of the very finest big bull hunts in North America. Saw the absolute largest bull I’ve ever seen anywhere, a giant 7x7, on a bow hunt in 9 back around 1992. Didn’t get him killed but was certain he was comfortably over 400. Had him broadside at 35 yards but no shot opportunity.


When I had my unit 10 tag, I saw a bull like you are describing. Those two units ARE IN FACT, the best trophy Elk hunts in the entire world. I went home without a bull as well. I passed some smaller bulls in the 320-340 range, but those are not the kind of bulls we wait 10-20 years to draw a tag for.

Good Luck.

Steve


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I have 14 for Pronghorn, put in a bunch before bonus points. Not really enough but hopefull.

11 Elk. I don’t hunt because I’m hungry so I only put in for the early Unit 10 trophy hunt.

Got drawn for elk many years in 80’s. We had no clue of how to hunt. Wandered in woods with guns.



Have you done the "Ethically Hunting Arizona" course? its good for a permanent BP. Some pretty good deer units can be had with 3-4 BP's. If you have 2 permanent BP's (one loyalty and on ethically hunting course) you can go almost every year and hunt pretty good units. Or you're already 2 BP into waiting for a prime unit like 12's and 13's

Draw results are out. I drew 44A for Mule Deer. its a desert Mule Deer hunt with some exceptional deer. Not terribly difficult to find bucks. Hope for heat in early November.

6A for Antelope. Have a pretty good fall lining up. Also have two trips to the Amazon this fall. I had 30 BP.

Unit 10 is worth waiting for (as is 9) I usually will only put in for archery Elk hunts, which doubles your odds or halves the wait.


Steve, I’m waiting on 9 archery with 26 non-res points. Just did a BP this year since Sept doesn’t work for me this year. Son & I each sitting on 27 sheep points.


26 NR BP's for unit 9 seems excessive. I drew unit 10 8-9 years ago with 10 BP. I realize you're drawing NR but it still seems like you should have drawn at mid-high teens?

Unit 9 is very tough without the rut. Very thick and almost nowhere to effectively glass. But if the rut is going, holy crap!! your chances at a high 300-low 400 bull are good.



Steve, I was holding out for early rifle or muzzleloader in 9, due to having a partially torn rotator cuff. But, I’ve spent a lot of time building strength and I believe the archery hunt is the best chance to kill a giant. I can shoot a bow up to about 60 pounds these days. I’ve hunted 9 several times in September and believe it’s one of the very finest big bull hunts in North America. Saw the absolute largest bull I’ve ever seen anywhere, a giant 7x7, on a bow hunt in 9 back around 1992. Didn’t get him killed but was certain he was comfortably over 400. Had him broadside at 35 yards but no shot opportunity.


When I had my unit 10 tag, I saw a bull like you are describing. Those two units ARE IN FACT, the best trophy Elk hunts in the entire world. I went home without a bull as well. I passed some smaller bulls in the 320-340 range, but those are not the kind of bulls we wait 10-20 years to draw a tag for.

Good Luck.

Steve


Not the kind of bulls you ever shoot in 9 or 10 on any rut hunt. I’ll most likely not punch my tag when I draw, as I’ll be looking for something pretty special.
 
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Ok Steve, hope you kill a tremendous deer and show us a pic or two
Good luck with drawing DLS, hope you one day kill a bigun
 
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I applied for a lesser unit (easier draw odds) for elk. I ended up
drawing a 19a late elk tag. I realize that it will be tough since I do not
know the unit. However, it will be fun to give it a good effort with my son
helping me.

It will be odd hunting elk this late as I have only done it once (in my home state) when my wife drew
the tag.

This will be my first time hunting Arizona and I look forward to hunting in warmer weather!
 
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And we all wish you great hunt and success
 
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Update. I was successful on Antelope. I killed on 9/13, Friday the 13th!!

I was everything that makes us all hunt. Doing it solo, in good country. The spot, the stalk and all the things that happen in-between.

He wasn't very big, but with two days left, I wasn't seeing any shootable bucks, just lots of does and small one and two year old bucks.

The rut wasn't on yet. But, great hunt very satisfying.

Now, desert Mule Deer in a month.


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