Went to a friends ranch this past weekend to help thin the doe population.
I came in the other side of the ranch with one other hunter and the owner and two more gus were sitting on the porch talking. As soon as I got out of the truck they told me they saw him on the side of a big hill by the road. I told they they should have shot him.
The rancher said they were afraid of not makeing a killing shot and wounding him and not wanting to chase him through the cactus and rocks they passed him up. He offered him to me and I said let's go see if he is still there. We drove down the road and he was still there. He said if I shoot I have to have him mounted. I replied Ok. he said if you think you can drop him then take him. He fell drt. The taxidermist said he might make silver. Waiting to hear from the taxidermist on the score.
Okie

photo's ?

I put up a photo for Okie ...

Nice job!

I do not have any of the sheep on my ranch, other than Mouflon, but that looks like a Black Hawaiian or Maybe a Corsican/Hawaiian cross?

Either way, it is a beautiful Sheep! Looks like he has a thick Black mane, like a Mouflon or Corsican. That should make a very nice mount.

As a side note, I didn't know Deer Park allowed guys on the volleyball team?

nice work and cool critter
what you shooting and how far?

Good job, and nice ram.

As Wendell opines, that appears to be a black Hawaiian. Corsican are pretty much brown with only black accents.

Not a great photo, but here's one of each on my wall -- Corsican on the left, BH on the right.

Okie, most of these original "exotic" sheep we have in America are some form of hybred (Corsican/Texas Dall/Black Hawaiian). Your's should be listed as a Black "Hawaiian" ram. This is another color phase in the Corsican family. Young ram but good length should score him well since he's not broomed. I think you did good, congrats!
David

Congrats on your "surprise"!

Also, David nailed it. Yours would be classified as a "Black Hawaiian". All of these exotic sheep are Corsicans, with the Black Hawaiina, Texas Dall, Painted Desert, and "Mouflon" just being bred for color and horn shape. Of course there are true Mouflon's, but they are more rare and expensive.

"The Corsican Family of Sheep includes, Texas Dall, Black Hawaiian, Painted Desert & American Blackbelly Sheep and sheep identified also simply as "corsicans". These sheep are all mouflon cross sheep which are developing into unique and individual breeds.

The Corsican Family of Sheep includes, Texas Dall, Black Hawaiian, Painted Desert & American Blackbelly Sheep and sheep identified also simply as "corsicans". These sheep are all mouflon cross sheep which are developing into unique and individual breeds."

History:

"The Corsican Family of Sheep (Painted Desert, Texas Dall, Black Hawaiian, American Blackbelly) are actually the result of initial crosses decades ago between the shedding, wild Mouflon Sheep with a wide range of more well known "wool" breeds of sheep including: Rambouillet, Churro, Merino, and Jacob, etc. At times, some of these crosses also included another hair or shedding sheep called the Barbados Blackbelly which was imported from Barbados with bloodlines originally coming from Africa. One of the very first crosses happened quite by accident in the mid 1900’s at the YO Ranch in Texas between Mouflon Ewes and Rambouillet rams resulting in beautiful snowy white, shedding sheep now known as the Texas Dall."

Here are some of the more accurate descriptions. Naturally, given the various cross-breeding that has occurred in Texas, many of these have been bastarized so they look like no other. It appears the most common ancestor is the mouflon.

The Corsican Ram is probably the most hunted exotic. The Corsican is from the West Indies and is a reddish brown sheep with a black mane that can grow to a pretty impressive length. The most common type is the Barbado, a cross between the mouflon and a Barbados Blackbelly sheep. Large mature rams will weigh 125 to 180 pounds.


The Mouflon Ram is from Greece. The only ram that makes a greater trophy than the Mouflon is the Aoudad. The horns of a Mouflon ram are heart shaped with trophy quality rams having horns of 31 inches plus. With a quite rare case of horns reaching the 40" range. A mature ram will weigh 90 to 115 pounds.


The Texas Dall Ram is believed to have originated as cross between an Alaska Dall and a Mouflon. The color of the Texas Dall can range solid, white, cream or rusty red colorations. A mature ram will weigh 130 to 160 pounds. These Rams make exceptional trophys.

The Black Hawaiian Ram, a believed cross between the black hair sheep of the Hawaiian Islands and a mouflon. Through the years they have been crossed with other sheep to perfect their horn development and their overall looks. The horns on this Ram can curl out 35 inches, with a 40 inch ram not being uncommon. The color of the ram is black with some rams having a little white on the muzzle around the nose.

Barbiroussa Rams are feral sheep and differ in coloration with pure white, with also black or brown patches on their wool coats. Their horns are light cream in color

I thought our President was a Black Hawaiian???Just sayin.

Thanks for the nice words. I have been on a haul job and just got back home. Went to the taxidermist to give him some money and he said it was a black Hawaain. He apologized for the mistake as all he saw when I took him down there was the horns. He hasn't scored him yet but could almost guarantee he will make silver. As I left I told him I still get to look for a corsican since I want to shoot one.
I shot him with a 300 wby magnum I had built.

Wendell,
my wife is a coach. She let's me have the year old shirts.
Mike, Thanks for helping with the picture.

It looks like you fellas are having a swell time of it in ol' Tejas.

Not bad for a doe- thinning outing.


btw... "Let's Go, Deer Park Volleyball !!"

quote:

Here are some of the more accurate descriptions.

??????

quote:

The Texas Dall Ram is believed to have originated as cross between an Alaska Dall and a Mouflon.

Not a chance. One more time: "The Texas Dall has no relation to the Alaskan Dall. It is a hybrid, a cross between domestic sheep (Rambouillet and Barbados Blackbelly) and the European Mouflon. Although most are white, they can range in color from white to blond or pale champagne. Some even have spotted markings, usualy fawn in color. Their horns are large and spectacular. They are raised primarily for trophy hunting."

No one can seriously consider these farm bred corsican sheep in the same league as the Dalls, Stones or Big Horns. Let's accept them for what they are. Can they be fun to hunt, especially if they have escaped and are free ranging like this one, you bet. The Auodads and true Mouflons are in their own categories and I would consider them big game animals.