Looking for a New Mexico/Arizona Gemsbok hunt for three hunters.. Can somebody get us hooked up??

Thanks all

For $4500 you could go to Namibia and take two gemsbok each, including airfare.

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Originally posted by RM007:
For $4500 you could go to Namibia and take two gemsbok each, including airfare.

Ya... But it's such a long drive!

Mike, send me a pm and I can try to help you with some facts and details.....wapiti7

Mike, the deadline for the public draw is past for this year (it was Feb 3). I'm sure you can find some private landowner permits, but by the time you factor in the price of a non-resident tag ($1500), you'll probably be right close to that number quoted above for a trip to Namibia. My father in law went along with my wife and me (my wife's oryx hunt) and got pretty excited about hunting himself. He experience sticker shock when I showed him the price and started talking about $2,500-$4,000 landowner certificates.

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Originally posted by wapiti7:
Mike, send me a pm and I can try to help you with some facts and details.....wapiti7

Wapiti7
sent you pm..

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Originally posted by DesertRam:
Mike, the deadline for the public draw is past for this year (it was Feb 3). I'm sure you can find some private landowner permits, but by the time you factor in the price of a non-resident tag ($1500), you'll probably be right close to that number quoted above for a trip to Namibia. My father in law went along with my wife and me (my wife's oryx hunt) and got pretty excited about hunting himself. He experience sticker shock when I showed him the price and started talking about $2,500-$4,000 landowner certificates.

DesertRam,

I was hoping you would show up on this post.. When I did the search on this subject, you came up quite a bit..

Thanks..

I've been applying for the NM Oryx tags for 4 years now & have yet to get drawn. The draw results are comming out Friday (3/9/07) so maybe this is my year, if not I might just look into going to Africa.

It is always possible to draw a tag, but the likelyhood of three of you drawing on the same hunt is ... well, you'll probably hit the lotto first. Your best bet would be to buy a landowner authorization, which is not a permit. These will cost you from $1500 to $2500 each, then, on top of that you would have to buy your actual tag, which is $1,500. In reality, you have invested from $3,000 per hunter up to $4,000 per hunter before you even slide a cartridge into your rifle. You are closer to the price of that African hunt than you realize and that is before ever leaving the United States. On the flip side, if you have unlimited funds and just want to go hunting it is a doable deal, just carry a very fat wallet with you. New Mexico is anything but cheap. What blows a lot of minds is that folks think they have actually bought a permit after forking out say $2,000, when all they have purchased is the right to buy a permit. Tom Purdom

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Originally posted by 7x57mm:
It is always possible to draw a tag, but the likelyhood of three of you drawing on the same hunt is ... well, you'll probably hit the lotto first. Your best bet would be to buy a landowner authorization, which is not a permit. These will cost you from $1500 to $2500 each, then, on top of that you would have to buy your actual tag, which is $1,500. In reality, you have invested from $3,000 per hunter up to $4,000 per hunter before you even slide a cartridge into your rifle. You are closer to the price of that African hunt than you realize and that is before ever leaving the United States. On the flip side, if you have unlimited funds and just want to go hunting it is a doable deal, just carry a very fat wallet with you. New Mexico is anything but cheap. What blows a lot of minds is that folks think they have actually bought a permit after forking out say $2,000, when all they have purchased is the right to buy a permit. Tom Purdom

Yep... Being clueless was bliss... for awhile..

Now I'm ready for the 4k door to door Namibia hunt... Can anybody get us hooked up? (part.II)

Thanks all

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Originally posted by sdeshazo:
I've been applying for the NM Oryx tags for 4 years now & have yet to get drawn. The draw results are comming out Friday (3/9/07) so maybe this is my year, if not I might just look into going to Africa.

Four years huh? I work with a fella that's been trying for 28 straight years and has yet to draw an oryx tag - and he's a resident. NM has no preference point system, so it's all just luck of the draw. We actually have a pretty crappy draw system, which I've written letters about, but the Game Commission has their own agenda. You'd be pretty safe to wager that there mission, despite what they claim, has little to do with effective game management.

As a resident, you'd be crazy not to apply for an oryx tag, you only end up spending $300 or so (you've got to pay the Army $150 too). However, for the money it would cost a non-resident to do it, there are much better options. I guess if you did draw one at $1500, you'd be in okay shape, but if you have to add the cost of the landowner authorization, you'd just as well look for something else to hunt. Unless of course you really want an oryx from NM...

If you're really considering gemsbok in Africa, you'd be hard pressed to be Namibia. Check out Vaughan Fulton's Classic Safaris, the Gras Ranch, and Farm Felseneck. The first and third I've hunted with firsthand and had good experiences with. There are several other great outfitters written about here that would be good options too.

DesertRam: I used to live in Grants, New Mexico and was a newspaper reporter there for seven years. Put in for everything all seven years and only drew a third hunt on bull elk. The third hunt means nothing more than pissing your money down the tubes because all the elk in your unit has, buy that time, been run out of the unit. It never ceased to amaze me how many five-day hunts the commission tried to cram into a season, but then, it was a money deal in the first place. The Game and Fish Department are hamstrung by the commission, which are appointment positions done by the governor. You can bet your bottom dollar the appointments are mainly large landowners. Even trying to draw an elk license was a major-league bummer. I happened to find someone who sold me some cow elk landowner authorizations so I could buy a cow elk tag. Or, one can be like the outfitters from Cibola County who printed bogus tags for their unsuspecting clients.

Sad but true, in the last 15 years, I've killed 4! Yep, thats 1 every 3.5 years......keeps the freezer full! However, 2 antelope tags in 15 years isn't too good........wapiti7

after years of applying for tags there i quit it's a worthless effor without a point system in place, years ago I thought I would bite the bullet and buy a (LOT) until I found out it only got you the right to buy the tag, had it not been for a hunting forum like this one I might have sent a check off to the land owner who never told me I was still faced with the cost of the tag.

I still get the hype and info from several brokers who buy LOT to resell I got this Antelope TAG ranch has not been hunted in years possiable 85+pt goat only $2200 gee now I have to buy the tag then find out landowner will only let you on with a guide 2 days another $600+ and that gets you nothing except someone driving you around the ranch and you shoot the first 13"-14" goat he see's slaps you on the back tells you great shot you made and that you got a real nice one, he is home by noon with a fat wallet and your 85+pt goat shrunk to 75pts that happened to a guy that I know with trans room meals + cost he had about $3800 in the hunt.

You can do WY.for 1/2 that and truely get a 80+ goat fully guided.

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeha! Non-resident tag for Rhodes Canyon Oct 13-14th. Anyone been there done that? Seventh year was a charm.

I'd go with the "hunt Africa" concensus. Namibia or RSA have good Oryx. There recently have been a number of 40+ inch Bulls that came out of RSA. Cows are longer horned but I like the heavy Bulls. Namibia now has the Golden Oryx. Good hunting, David

I didn't draw a tag this year but I'll keep applying. I have harvested Oryx in Africa but I want to hunt them in NM for two reasons. First, it is a unique hunt in the States. Second, you can't bring the meat from your animal in Africa back to the States. I would love a freezer full of Gemsbok.

douglast