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Got this email tonight from the MN DNR.



Dec. 19 ruling makes killing wolves illegal


Effective immediately, wolves in Minnesota can only be killed in defense of human life.

Only agents of the government are authorized to take wolves if pets or livestock are threatened, attacked or killed.

Protect all evidence and report depredation incidents to a DNR conservation officer. Use the Conservation Officer Locator and leave a recorded message 24/7.

A federal judge's decision to immediately reinstate Endangered Species Act protections for gray wolves in Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan place the animals under protection of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

Wolves now revert to the federal protection status they had prior to being removed from the endangered species list in the Great Lakes region in January 2012. That means wolves now are federally classified as threatened in Minnesota and endangered elsewhere in the Great Lakes region.

More information will become available on the DNR wolf management page. You also can join the Facebook discussion.
 
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That sucks any way you look at it!


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Posts: 31014 | Location: Olney, Texas | Registered: 27 March 2006Reply With Quote
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Same thing we have to do with lions in CA.

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you can come and kill one here if you want to. We have the 160-200+ pound Canadian Lobos though...
 
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That sucks big time. When will they learn.



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Yep, the antis found another female Liberal Judge in DC and we're in the crapper again!
 
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A federal judge on Friday threw out an Obama administration decision to remove gray wolves in the western Great Lakes region from the endangered species list — a decision that will ban further wolf hunting and trapping in three states.

U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell in Washington, D.C., ruled Friday the removal was “arbitrary and capricious” and violated the federal Endangered Species Act.



What a joke.
 
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There is nothing that is worth staying for, in a deep blue state like MN. Get some peace and serenity and get out. Don't you think you have suffered enough?
 
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I have a shovel.

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What wolf?


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What wolf?

yep, my thought... rather than watch them eat my cow. My guess id F & G is like the PD. They will show up after and fill out paperwork. They will do absolutely zero to stop the problem before or as it is happening.
 
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It is going to be a fight to get it back the whole unconstitutional endangered species act should be done away with.

I was out with the hounds after yotes a few days ago. In the large area we were hunting we had far more fresh wolf tracks then yotes.

But the DNR latest research says we should have more wolves.
 
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The gloves are off.Do what you have to do.
 
Posts: 4372 | Location: NE Wisconsin | Registered: 31 March 2007Reply With Quote
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Court Vacates Western Great Lakes Wolf Delisting Rule -- Puts WGL
Wolves Back on the Endangered Species List

Dear SCI Members:

Today, a D.C. federal district court judge returned the wolves of the Western Great Lakes (WGL) to the endangered species list. This was the fourth time that a delisting of the WGL wolves has been overturned in court. In a 111 page opinion, the judge ruled that the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) violated the Endangered Species Act by illegally creating the Western Great Lakes Distinct Population Segment of wolves. The court decided that the FWS lacks authority to delist anything less than what they originally listed. Since the FWS had originally listed gray wolves throughout the lower 48 states, the court held that the FWS lacked the authority to delist any population segment smaller than the species as a whole. The court rejected the argument that the wolves of Minnesota, which the FWS had designated as “threatened” in 1978, qualified as a DPS that the FWS could later delist.

The court also had problems with many other aspects of the delisting rule. The court found the FWS’s explanation of certain issues lacking, such as the significance of the wolves’ absence from areas of their historic range, the absence of regulatory protections of wolves in many of the states – those other than Michigan, Wisconsin and Minnesota -- that had been included in the DPS, and the existence of risks to the wolves from multiple sources of mortality.

The court rejected arguments submitted by the FWS, the states of Michigan, Wisconsin and Minnesota as well as SCI’s intervenor group (also including the U.S. Sportsmen’s Alliance Foundation, the National Rifle Association, the Wisconsin Bear Hunters Association, the Michigan United Conservation Clubs, the Wisconsin Bowhunters Association, the Upper Peninsula Bear Houndsmen Association, the Michigan Hunting Dog Federation, and the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation) that recommended that the judge not invalidate the delisting rule and instead simply remand the rule to the FWS for further correction and explanation. The judge was unconvinced that the relisting would cause disruption in the management of the species. The judge chose instead to vacate the delisting rule and restored the wolves to federal protection.

SCI’s Litigation Team is studying this ruling and in the next few days will be analyzing its impact, not only on the future of WGL wolves, but also on other species potentially poised to be delisted. SCI will also be consulting with attorneys for the FWS, states and other defendant-intervenors to discuss a potential appeal of this ruling.


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Just trap a few and turn them loose in DC and Central Park. I'd bet these Lib Judge's rulings would quickly change Eeker
 
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A DC judge knows more than the USFWS...insanity and the judicial dictatorship continues.
 
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That is not good.

However, unless MN has a law on the books that says "hunting is a right", then we really have to view it as a privilege granted and revoked by our elected officials.

To make hunting a "right", you and others need to push your officials to designate as such in your state laws.
 
Posts: 10394 | Location: Texas... time to secede!! | Registered: 12 February 2004Reply With Quote
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U.S. District Court Judge Beryl A. Howell

"The D.C. Circuit has noted that, at times, a court 'must lean forward from the bench to let an agency know, in no uncertain terms, that enough is enough,'" Judge Howell wrote in her 111 page decision. "This case is one of those times."

This is one of the most blatant cases of judicial prejudice that I have ever seen. So much for a strict interpretation of the law.
 
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From the Mn. constitution.

Sec. 12. Preservation of hunting and fishing.

Hunting and fishing and the taking of game and fish are a valued part of our heritage that shall be forever preserved for the people and shall be managed by law and regulation for the public good.
 
Posts: 304 | Location: Minnesota | Registered: 12 February 2007Reply With Quote
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From the Mn. constitution.

Sec. 12. Preservation of hunting and fishing.

Hunting and fishing and the taking of game and fish are a valued part of our heritage that shall be forever preserved for the people and shall be managed by law and regulation for the public good.


Amen
 
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Sad day for you hunters in MN. Any day vermin can get a free pass to slaughter wild game, livestock and domestic pets is a sad day for all. Guess those liberal couch potato's sent their $19 checks in to hsus and peta cheese.


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Posts: 2937 | Location: minnesota | Registered: 26 December 2002Reply With Quote
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The court decided that the FWS lacks authority to delist anything less than what they originally listed.


I don't think that will stand. ESA decisions have to be made on the "best available science," and that means we must be able to learn about populations, and segments, and change our understanding of them.

to the extent the judge decided there was not enough data, that can be fixed.

the wolves will come back off. it may take 2 years, but off they will come.
 
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Not the right to wolf hunt...
just the right to taxidermy rotflmo
 
Posts: 2141 | Location: enjoying my freedom in wyoming | Registered: 13 January 2006Reply With Quote
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Saw a bumper sticker on a pickup in Sheridan Wyoming that is pertinent.

"Real men don't need Wolf tags"
 
Posts: 5604 | Location: Eastern plains of Colorado | Registered: 31 October 2005Reply With Quote
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Guys, take a look at this - http://www.americanthinker.com...t_on_minorities.html. And this - http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/...ma-immigration-suit/

Aside from wolves, she also thinks a border fence is racist. And she was appointed by, guess what?? And in service of the LibDem Commies' continuing war on America and against ANYTHING that makes sense.

Now, you may or may not get the wolf "decision" reversed. That will be very hard and even if successful, will take forever.

But there IS something that CAN be done. After the Republicans take control of the Congress, put her on the short list of those to impeach. You CAN do that.

While we're at it, create a commission to study every executive order of the individual in the WH currently running our lives, and overturn as many as possible. Then we can start to right the ship, after years now of every effort to cause it to run aground.

Btw, at the leadership level those pushing the wolf agenda, in case everyone doesn't know it, are also firmly against any cattle and animal husbandry industry at all. It's all part of the same program...
 
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Saw a bumper sticker on a pickup in Sheridan Wyoming that is pertinent.

"Real men don't need Wolf tags"


Or, as an old ranch hand I met in Montana this year said:

"Tags? My tags come in a box of 20."


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Saw a bumper sticker on a pickup in Sheridan Wyoming that is pertinent.

"Real men don't need Wolf tags"


Or, as an old ranch hand I met in Montana this year said:

"Tags? My tags come in a box of 20."


There ya go!!
 
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Guys, take a look at this - http://www.americanthinker.com...t_on_minorities.html. And this - http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/...ma-immigration-suit/

Aside from wolves, she also thinks a border fence is racist. And she was appointed by, guess what?? And in service of the LibDem Commies' continuing war on America and against ANYTHING that makes sense.

Now, you may or may not get the wolf "decision" reversed. That will be very hard and even if successful, will take forever.

But there IS something that CAN be done. After the Republicans take control of the Congress, put her on the short list of those to impeach. You CAN do that.

While we're at it, create a commission to study every executive order of the individual in the WH currently running our lives, and overturn as many as possible. Then we can start to right the ship, after years now of every effort to cause it to run aground.

Btw, at the leadership level those pushing the wolf agenda, in case everyone doesn't know it, are also firmly against any cattle and animal husbandry industry at all. It's all part of the same program...


Spot on!!

The Judicial Branch of our government is BROKEN! These politically motivated judges are not reading the law, but making new laws from the bench - that is, essentially a judicial branch dictatorship. This is not what the founding fathers wanted, but results from sleazy left-wing politicians appointing incompetent biased judges.

We must vote and work to get out the vote to get a Republican president in office along with Republican majorities in the House and Senate.

Otherwise the left-wing lunatics will take over, and they will take away our hobby and our 2nd amendment rights.
 
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Well if a Federal judge says that wolves are endangered here in MN and if the humane society says that wolves never approach inhabited areas where people live. Then they must know what they are talking about right?

I mean it's not like they are so bold an brazen that they would walk out into an open field in broad daylight.

 
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I had so many wolves on my game cams this summer I stopped saving them. At all times of the day.
 
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With decisions like this it's no wonder that more and more people are talking of using the SSS method and I don't blame them at all!
 
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Historically, poisoning was very successful in reducing wolf populations, particularly in the American West and Imperial Japan. Strychnine was the most frequently used compound. The poison would be typically mixed in lard or tallow, and spread on bits of meat, or placed within incisions on the bait. Though effective, the method had the disadvantage of greatly loosening the fur of the dead wolf, causing it to shed easily. Wolves killed by strychnine were typically skinned immediately after death, in order to avoid the fur absorbing too much of the poison.
 
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Well if a Federal judge says that wolves are endangered here in MN and if the humane society says that wolves never approach inhabited areas where people live. Then they must know what they are talking about right?

I mean it's not like they are so bold an brazen that they would walk out into an open field in broad daylight.




Those are sure crappy looking wolves compared to Idaho wolves.

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Effective immediately, wolves in Minnesota can only be killed in defense of human life.

"It's coming right for us!!!" South Park style...
 
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Found this in the archives this morning. More evidence about the wolf problem in MN



Jessica Saenker, 17, of East Bethel shot this whitetail doe Nov. 10 while hunting near Floodwood, Minn. She shot it in the morning and after waiting 45 minutes for the deer to bleed out her party was following the blood trail, several wolves passed them. By the time Saenker reached the deer, the wolves had scattered but had taken much of the usable meat.
 
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Looks like plenty of usable meat STILL on
the deer...
 
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Looks like plenty of usable meat STILL on
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Her quote not mine...
 
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I savvy that MN Hunter
 
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Just trap a few and turn them loose in DC and Central Park. I'd bet these Lib Judge's rulings would quickly change Eeker


I really like that idea!! jumping


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