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If you're young and apply in MANY western States and NEVER miss an application, you'll hunt sheep a time or two. Attrition is your friend when entering the sheep application programs. Guys will draw, miss a year or more or get old and quit or die. Yes, I'm a firm believer that you can move to the head of the line if you persist. I'm older too (63) and have drawn 3 sheep tags in the lower 48 along with 1 for my wife, 1 for my son and 2 for one of my daughters. My son is about to draw another one in the next year or two and none of them had "max" points to begin with. Most guys only talk about applying. You actually have to do it to draw a tag! Zeke | |||
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Ross - No doubt, buying hunt giveaway tickets can be fun and why not, you might win too! Some have a lot better odds than others - based on number of tickets even available. But, if you're lucky - you're lucky, that's my opinion. However, if I were you - I would definitely start applying in all the states offering sheep tags. Most are bonus points, not preference, so regardless you do have some chance and a couple of states like Idaho & New Mexico don't have any point system at all. So the 1st year of applying you have the same chance as everyone else!!!! If you need help with either - text / email me. Good luck!!! | |||
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You are forgetting that we will be younger than all the max points people. Many of the max points and below guys will, draw, give up, or pass away. Of course the 30 year old is behind, but not impossible. I would still recommend buying a hunt in Alaska or Canada, or Mexico and consider drawing in the lower 48 a nice bonus, but not out of the realm of one day happening. I am 33, have been applying as a nonres in Wyoming for awhile, and will start applying in Montana as a res for the 2018 season hopefully. but plans for Dall are in the works. DSC SCI Life NRA Life WSF Life <1 Club | |||
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This. I am not sure if it is with sheep too - but they have the sales or auctions if you will of some of the tags for the Game Departments. | |||
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I'm 38 and have 12-15 points in most states. Its just fun to apply. The excitement of applying and possibly drawing is worth something. | |||
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Actually I am not forgetting that people will die or give up. I also stated that guys starting now are lifetimes behind. You obviously are not in that group. Sure a guy might draw in his late 70s, hoping that others ahead of him have died. But My money is on someone outliving the guy who hopes to be the last one standing at 81 with a sheep tag. My idea actually gives a guy a realistic chance to hunt sheep at some point. I'd also be very surprised of permit distribution systems stay the same for another 40 years. All it takes is for Wyoming to implement a 90/10 split they have been considering and non-res points below the 14 level become almost worthless. | |||
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Wyoming residents have asked for it a couple of times, but I don't think anyone has lead the call for that to happen. WYOGA would try like hell to lobby against it. Hopefully we are moving back here after this overseas hitch. Not liking the home prices in Casper, for a 20 acre mini-ranch type of thing. I'd rather not live in town. I'd like to see every western state implement some kind of 10% for non-residents. Probably makes me the anti-Christ on this website, and everyone will bring up the ownership of BLM and Forest service lands by the American public. I just don't care. A lot of states value their residents more (North Dakota, New Mexico, South Dakota and Idaho. | |||
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About all I can tell you is that if you don't send in an application you sure ain't gonna get picked.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I've long been a believer in building points nearly everywhere I can and staying in it for the long haul, both for me and my now 29 year old son. We have sheep points in AZ, CA, NV, UT and WY, but not MT or CO. I am 58 and have max points in CA, 23 points in AZ, 17 points for both NV sheep and 18 points in WY. My son, again he's 29; has 18 points in WY, 14 for both in NV, 21 in AZ and 13 in CA. He is gonna draw several sheep tags while still young enough to hunt well. Closest I've come to drawing was #1 alternate for a desert sheep tag in California. CA only allows 1 non-res to draw statewide and a guy from Colorado drew the 3rd of 3 tags in the unit I was alternate for. Close, but no cigar. I did draw a raffle Dall Sheep hunt in the Yukon through a FNAWS drawing in 1989. Also have hunted Dalls, Stone and CA bighorn in BC, all the old fashioned way... by paying for the hunts. | |||
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Seriously, if you can not afford a Dall Ram hunt borrow the money and make payments. The price goes up yearly. | |||
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Luck sure comes in handy. I was able to bag a Stone sheep and a Dall sheep in the late 1970's. I believed the asking price for a Bighorn was too high so I continued to apply for a tag in Montana and Wyoming. Still no tag from either state as of today. Now for the luck. In 2002 I send in an application for a tag in Arizona for the first time.. Bingo, I got a tag on the first pass. Two years later, I put for a Bighorn tag in Idaho for the first time. Once again I got a tag on the first application. My experience shows the grief of tag soup year after year as well as the fact that one cannot a draw a tag unless one submits an application. Just like playing pool---shoot hard and wish for luck! | |||
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