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I'm going to purchase a new rifle in the next week or two to use for deer and pronghorn. I'm pretty set on the Remington 700 BDL or the Winchester M70 Featherweight, either will be in .270. Anyone care to sway me one way or the other? The plans for the rifle will be a H-S Precision stock and some decent glass. I'm not interested in a full custom build though. | ||
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Either one..... Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum | |||
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Just depends on which you like best. I have both and like them both. Probably comes down to if you like 3 position safety and CRF. Have gun- Will travel The value of a trophy is computed directly in terms of personal investment in its acquisition. Robert Ruark | |||
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I'd get a 700, mess with the trigger or upgrade the trigger and keep on shooting. The 700 ADL can often be bought in Walmart for less than $400, and sometimes less than $300. Fiberglass stock, some bedding and you are out the door for $550-850 depending on how fancy you get, and you'll have a nice rifle to boot. The one piece Talley ultra light mounts are pretty good, I have those on a 700 of mine in 7x57. | |||
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It's actually pretty simple. Go to a big box store or a well stocked gun store and have them lay one of each on the counter. Handle each one, bring it to your shoulder, etc. One of them will whisper "take me home". And, fwiw, if your interest is in deer and antelope, don't overlook the 7-08. Wide range of bullets and it'll do anything the .270 can do but in a trim package. Aim for the exit hole | |||
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Neither, for what you're wanting, get a Tikka T-3 Lite, and never look back. You won't have to do any bedding, or adjust trigger, or anything else. Just put some decent glass on it and you're done.! Best over the counter rifle on the market. A real working man's gun. JP Sauer Drilling 12x12x9.3x72 David Murray Scottish Hammer 12 Bore Alex Henry 500/450 Double Rifle Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock 6.5x55 Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock .30-06 Walther PPQ H2 9mm Walther PPS M2 Cogswell & Harrison Hammer 12 Bore Damascus And Too Many More | |||
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I have a Rem BDL in 270 I've had for 40 years, killed many big game animals with it. Gave it to my son five years ago. A truly wonderful rifle, still shoots nickel sized groups at 100 yards. I bought a Rem XCR II in 375 H&H in 2011 brand new for a brown bear hunt. I couldn't close the bolt on factory Remington Ammo. I hate to say it, but I'd go with the Model 70. Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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I will give you a very strong recommendation for the M-70 featherweight. I've had mine for about 8 years now and been very pleased with it. Out of the the box the trigger was a crisp 3 pounds and perfect. Accuracy has been excellent (1 moa or better) with Hornady 130 Interlocks and Nosler 150 Partitions over IMR-4831 at very strong velocities. It's probably about a pound lighter than the BDL and in the field that matters! | |||
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M70 FW. | |||
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No question there for me, Model 70 Featherweight. I have that very rifle in 270 WCF and have for 20 years or more. My experience echos Sagebrush's regarding accuracy and out of the box performance. I don't know that one could ask for much more from a new, modern American made rifle. I've never killed anything with that particular rifle as it's too new to pique my interest but have with a previous Mod. 70 in 270. Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but through me". John 14:6 | |||
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If you like to tinker get a 700. Both are good. My buddy Craig has been a 1 gun man for 30 years. He got 700 BDL .270 and never looked back. All We Know Is All We Are | |||
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I shoot 4 Winchester Model 70 featherweights in .270 WSM and they all are tack drivers. If you load you can get 3450 fps out of 130 grain Northforks. All my rifles shoot 140 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips and Partitions great as well as 160 grain Partitions. My son, grandsons and myself all use them on Deer sized game as well as Elk. When I say tack drivers I mean a ragged hole with three shots when the shooter does his part. I am sure the Remington is good, just stating what the Model 70's do. Good shooting. phurley | |||
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I have both rifles chambered in .30-06. The Featherweight is a neat little rifle after it has been used enough to smooth it out, but it does not shoot quite as well as most internet rifles do. It shoots an honest 1.25" - 1.5" 3 shot group at 100 yards with my best handloads and somewhat larger groups with assorted factory ammunition. It is plenty accurate enough for normal hunting. The 700 clearly shoots a bit better groups with both handloads and with factory ammunition. Either would make a good hunting rifle, but they have a very different feel in my hands. I really like my Featherweight, but if I had to choose only one it would be the 700. It would be a shame to restock a Featherweight. You are paying a premium for that slim little original stock. Unfortunately you will get a lot of Ford vs. Chevy type of opinions with these rifles. | |||
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Never used the M70, but have the 700 BDL, and it's a very accurate rifle out of the box. I have quick detachable mounts on it, and can quickly take off the scope if I wanted to use the iron sights. Don't Ever Book a Hunt with Jeff Blair or Blair Worldwide Hunting http://forums.accuratereloadin...043/m/3471078051/p/1 | |||
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As mentioned either or, I have both and like both. However, unless your set on open sights, I wouldn't get the BDL; but rather the CDL (oiled stock, matte steel), for about $50 more. Also as mentioned, I wouldn't look over the 7mm-08 for what your mentioned uses are (but I don't think you can get a current BDL in 7-08) Rod -------------------------------- "A hunter should not choose the cal, cartridge, and bullet that will kill an animal when everything is right; rather, he should choose ones that will kill the most efficiently when everything goes wrong" Bob Hagel | |||
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I would vote for the M70 Winchester. The Extreme Weather 264 WinMag I bought a couple years ago is the best rifle I have ever purchased. It is smooth, reliable, has a good trigger, fits me well, and accurately shoots 127 gr Barnes LRX's at almost 3400 fps with a book load. I can't imagine ever parting with this rifle. | |||
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I have Remingtons. A bunch of them. There are multiple reasons, but probably mostly because I started with an ADL in .270. With handloads it would shoot clover leafs at my test range of 100 yards. Also, Remington offered them in LH, and me being a southpaw made them attractive to me. I don't own Winchester, but I don't know how they could be any more out of the box accurate than my now safe full of BDLs... if I do my part they are all virtually five shot one hole rifles at 100 with my handloads. | |||
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Another vote for the M70! Easy choice for me. | |||
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M70 Or an older M700 Remington's QC has been crap for a few years now. Hunting: Exercising dominion over creation at 2800 fps. | |||
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The Remington 700 CDL (classic) or mountain rifle would be a good choice. I also like the M70 Winchester. Their featherweight barrel contour is probably going to look a little out of place in a HS precision stock. The Winchester FW barrel is one of my favorites for a carry gun. If you want a work of art get the M70 and have D'Arcy Echols do a number on it. Joe | |||
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Both are good. I am a Rem 700 guy though and own about a dozen of them. They are accurate and reliable. Also there is an unending amount of after market stuff that you can use for improvements, if you like. NRA Patron member | |||
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I am a BDL guy too, just had some QC issues with my last 700. I do love my CZ 550 in 500 Jeffery though! Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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I have both, and like both. Lay hands on them, and see which one cranks your tractor. I like the Win better, but a close friend is all Remington. I will say, the Win featherweight is better looking in my eyes, and I like the feel better. Good Luck | |||
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What tc98 said. I have both, and like the feel of the featherweight better. Both my 70 and BDL shoot lights out, so there is no difference there for me. Larry "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading" -- Thomas Jefferson | |||
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I have both and like them equally well. | |||
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I will always go with the Win. mod. 70, probably because I am a dyed in the wool control feed hunter, and The mod. 70 is still Americas rifle IMO....but to each his own, take the on YOU like best.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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That is a funny statement as the last two model 70 rifles I bought were both made in Portugal and imported by BACO. | |||
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If we're talking new, I'd go with the Winchester. Remington has let things slip a little recently. They're still serviceable guns (mostly), but not as nice as they used to be. | |||
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