i like the idea of the 338-06 but which one should i make? what is the best platform on which to build? should i just buy the weatherby? will the wild cat and a-square work in either or? any recomendations?

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Originally posted by boom stick:
i like the idea of the 338-06 but which one should i make? what is the best platform on which to build? should i just buy the weatherby? will the wild cat and a-square work in either or? any recomendations?

They are one and the same. A-Square just legitimized it with SAAMI.

i heard that there was a shoulder diference...but as long as they both work in the same rifle, i am o.k. any suggestions on the other questions...

thanks

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Originally posted by boom stick:
i heard that there was a shoulder diference...but as long as they both work in the same rifle, i am o.k. any suggestions on the other questions...

thanks

I didn't see anything else other than you mentioned a Weatherby. Can you be more specific.

sure, thanks, do you have a recomendation on a rifle to build it on or should i just buy a weatherby, what about maybe a rem 7600 pump? is there a rifle that would be better/easier/cheaper to build on?

thanks

Well, I had a 270 Winchester Model 70 bored out to 338/06 several years ago...

I have known several people who bought the Weatherby and each one sold it after the first season of use, based on poor accuracy....

My preference is a bolt action, hands down. I don't shoot my 338 Mags much after building the 338/06.
When I do, they are downloaded to 33 Winchester specs....for nostalgia purposes....

Cheers
seafire

As far as buying a new Weatherby is concerned, I believe Weatherby has dropped the .338-06 chambering.

-Bob F.

i hear great things about accuracy with the 7600 with its free floated barrel, i hear it just needs trigger work. thanks for the info on weatherby

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Originally posted by cobra:

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Originally posted by boom stick:
i like the idea of the 338-06 but which one should i make? what is the best platform on which to build? should i just buy the weatherby? will the wild cat and a-square work in either or? any recomendations?

They are one and the same. A-Square just legitimized it with SAAMI.

This was confirmed to me by RCBS when I asked for dies for this caliber.

I have not yet made my .338-06 but when I do it'll be on a M-70 featherweight and I'll try to talk Douglas into making me a 22" featherweight barrel for it. They might refuse and I'll then try to get someone to rebore a featherweight .30-06 barrel for me. I don't mind the recoil.....I want a lightweight rifle.

The .338-06 can be built on anything currently chambered for .240 Weatherby, .25-06, 270, .280, .30-06, or 38 whelen. You can also build one on a '98 Mauser.

good stuff vapodog...

i'll be curious to see what the trajectory will be like with a 275 gr bullet

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i'll be curious to see what the trajectory will be like with a 275 gr bullet

Like a rainbow. Not enough powder capacity for such a heavyweight. Stick with 250 gr as max bullet weight.

If I had it to do all over again I would have my Rem 700 chambered for the 338 Hawk\Scoville. Shoulder is pushed front shortening the overly long neck of the 338-06. The AI version, in my case. Talk to Fred Zeglin at Z-hat custom for more chambering info and loading dies.

If I was going to build another one, mine is on an old M77, I would get a used M70fwt & rebarrel it w/ a 23"Pacnor #2. A M700 would be my 2nd choice. The std. .338-06 is fine, I don't think you get much out of the AI ver. I have some old 275gr Speers I have been meaning to try but I think onefun is right, not enough powder cap. to get them to 2400fps.

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Originally posted by fredj338:
If I was going to build another one, mine is on an old M77, I would get a used M70fwt & rebarrel it w/ a 23"Pacnor #2. A M700 would be my 2nd choice. The std. .338-06 is fine, I don't think you get much out of the AI ver. I have some old 275gr Speers I have been meaning to try but I think onefun is right, not enough powder cap. to get them to 2400fps.

H 380 will get them to 2400 in my 24 inch barreled Model 70. Not sure if it is over pressured or not....Everyone thinks all of my loads are always over pressured it seems....
So work up if you try this load...

cheers
seafire

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Originally posted by boom stick:
good stuff vapodog...

i'll be curious to see what the trajectory will be like with a 275 gr bullet

Actually I hadn't planned using that heavy a bullet. The 225 grain bullets is my aim here or did I miss your point?

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Originally posted by BFaucett:
As far as buying a new Weatherby is concerned, I believe Weatherby has dropped the .338-06 chambering.

-Bob F.

You are correct Bob, I just got the new catalogue two weeks ago and it is not mentioned there in the rifle section.

I built mine on a old Mod 670 Ranger I had.I wanted something I could carry around and not worry if it got scratched up. I think if I did it again.I would use the standard version again just a different bbl and action as mine is a tad heavy with a 24" bbl.I'm working on the Barnes 185 gr TSX now at 3000 fps and next up is the 210.Great caliber

Been that route, settled on the .338 Win. as it will do anything the others will do, contrary to some, I see no difference in recoil, and found out there is no advantage to the wildcats, none at all...except perhaps in the mind of the owner or a 338-06!

I'm with Ray. The 338-06 offers nothing that can't be done with the 338 Win Mag.

The whole point of a .338 caliber rifle is penetration and frontal area, therefore, why limit the horsepower by asking the '06 case to push those heavy bullets? If I carry a .338, I want range and power.

I'd be happier with a 30-06 in that case capacity.

You might consider a 9.3x62 if you like to shoot heavier bullet weights in a standard weight rifle.

My experience with the 35 Whelen (same as a 338/06 just a smaller selection of bullets) is that 250 grainers are about ideal (250 @ 2500 fps).

Really want to toss 275 or heavier bullets? Try a 375. A 338 Win mag is fine but doesn't provide that much punch for a lot more bang. Physics rule here, bigger bullet, higher speed, more recoil unless you go to a heavier platform.

Given the two, go with the 338 Win over the 338/06, unless you're just contrary like me and my 35 Whelen.

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The whole point of a .338 caliber rifle is penetration and frontal area, therefore, why limit the horsepower by asking the '06 case to push those heavy bullets?

Before I'd decide that penetration is superior with the mag version, I'd want to see some tests. In other calibers, faster does not always, or even often, mean greater penetration. As for frontal area, if you are really wanting that, go with a .375, and the same goes for bullets heavier than 225-250 gr. The advantage to the mag version is range. Do you really shoot your critters so far away that you need to salt your bullet to prevent the meat from rotting before you get there?

A lot has been said about recoil, and most of that is personal perception. One place where it does count, though, is in the shooting positions you normally get in the field. If you often get to take shots from the prone position, the heavier recoiling caliber is far less pleasant.

i wanted to make the poor mans 318 westley richards...250 gr. at 2500 fps. moderate velocity heavier bullets. this combo has a great reputation. and to all here, there is something special and necessary about believing and trustiong your equipment that edges out your desire or belief in other calibers or rigs.

rupertbear, you are one funny guy, thanks for the laugh