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I want a short, light, accurate .308 Win. Thinking of just going to one of the semi-custom builders like H-S Precision. Anyone want to make any recommendations or have one they want to sell? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | ||
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I have a Kimber that is scary accurate, but I guess not all are. Rem model 7 is short and light, but the balance is not as good as the kimber for me. | |||
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I have a Kimber 84 Classic select in .308 It weighs 5 lbs 10 Oz without a scope. The gun will put 5 Hornady Superperformance 150 grain factory loads into 3/4 inch routinely and without cooling down between shots. I put some loads together for it using a Sierra Game Changer and it just got better. It came from the factory with a really stiff bolt and some timing issues that made the safety hard to engage. I called Kimber customer service. They emailed me a shipping label to their new facility in Alabama, I sent it on Monday and had it back by Saturday the same week and it functions perfectly now. I also have an Montana 84M in .257AI It started life as a 7-08 and threw shotgun size patterns 4" or so. Kimber replaced the barrel with a 257 Roberts barrel that shoots exceptionally well. (they were out of 7-08 barrels and it would have been 2-3 months before their next run) SO they offered me several other options... The bad news is both guns had to go back. The good news is Kimber handled it promptly, professionally, and to my satisfaction at no cost other than a small amount of time. Both guns are about as light as you can make a bolt action rifle and they are both more accurate than you can expect from a thin barrel on a light gun. Of course the current problem is they aren't available because Kimber, being in NY, has shut down completely for almost a year... | |||
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I hear great things about Steyr's Scout rifle accuracy wise. But I don't think its a sub five pound rifle. | |||
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Take a look at the Tikka Battue rifle. Accurate 20 in barrel. One of the best off the shelf rifles | |||
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how light and ... well, let's talk accuracy .. if you want 3 shot groups, light rifles MAY do okay .. 5 shot? it's going to get hot... 9 shots? it'll spray if you are talking cold bore on target, which is MY favorite attribute of any rifle, then i would recommend a savage . i personally have the axis XP stainless, at about 7# the 110 ultralite comes in at 5.8 the 110 lightweight storm comes in at 5.6 -and accutrigger at 795 list price, it's a steal opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Hunting in a tight noisy blind close (50-100 yds) to quarry. Sometimes long-waits so will lean rifle against the front of the blind and read. Looking for dependable, repeatable cold-barrel 1st shot accuracy with 2 follow-up shots within an inch. Thus ~7.5# with Swarovski Z6i added and 20” barrel. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Styer Scout Rifle very hard to beat. "Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." Mark Twain | |||
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Barrett Fieldcraft fits the bill perfectly if you can get one! | |||
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HS Precision SPL Remington Model 7 KS Steyr Scout Blaser R8 | |||
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After talking to H-S Precision...think I would go with the PHL. Only problem is the wait time 5-7 monnths. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Looks like you're looking for something wood and blued and a little nicer, but for the short, light, accurate role I bought a .308 Ruger American Predator model. Stock is a little flimsy, but comfortable to shoot and it still shoots lights out even when it's on a bag and the stock touches the barrel. It's threaded and has a picatinny mount. Really light and accurate. V block bedded. 60 degree bolt throw. Probably not what you're looking for, though. Tikka T3 is similar in accuracy. A little longer/maybe less handy, but the stock ergonomics are great. Can get it in wood. Doesn't have the safety blade on the front of the trigger. | |||
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I have many of these. My favorite is the Ruger scout. More accurate than the Steyr (at least the examples I have) and cheaper | |||
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Tikka T3x Compact in .308. I want one. But until I find one my BLR .308 handles that spot nicely "Let me start off with two words: Made in America" | |||
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I had a Steyr Scout rifle for a couple of years and it was a laser with Hornady 150 gr. Superperformance just like my Kimber and like my Kimber it wasn't sensitive to the barrel heating up. Its kinda quirky in its design. But completely functional. It does have an alloy receiver with a Steel barrel extension much like an AR in concept. But lightweight, accurate and handy....yep. I also owned a Ruger Gunsite Scout Rifle and its receiver was warped and had to go back to Ruger and they replaced the entire rifle. The new one shot exceptionally well but not as well as the Steyr version and of course the Ruger falls way short when it comes to comparative weight.... But short, and accurate it was. I've just had bad luc with lots of Rugers of all kinds the last dozen years or so. Of the 7 or 8 Ruger guns I purchased over that time I've had to send all but one back and they completely replaced 4 of them... Great customer service, very prompt. But damn... | |||
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I have one of the lightweight H-S rifles in .308, got it from a dealer on Gunbroker a few years ago. Just don't run a lot of rounds through the barrel at one time in hot weather. It's been good for me and my kids have also used it on occasion. ------------------------------- Some Pictures from Namibia Some Pictures from Zimbabwe An Elephant Story | |||
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The blaser r8 success with pistol grip is the single best blind gun. It’s short (all blasers are short even with 22 inch barrels because of direct locking in barrel.) best ergonomic stock. Mike | |||
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the old Ruger boat paddle would sure fit the bill, I use mine as a back pack rifle. the Hawkeye I have in 358 is a close second and about the same weight. but the boat paddle is stainless and not coated so it get's the nod when I'm dragging it out for a week or so with everything else I'm gonna drag around the mountains, and can't predict the weather. | |||
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NULA. But it’s a wait and spendy. My Steyr scout is nice, but not hyper accurate. I have a kimber in 300 WSM. Light, handy, but not what I would call accurate- 1.5 MOA with loads it likes. I know some folks with really accurate examples, but it seems a crap shoot. I have a SCAR in .308 that surprises me with its accuracy- but another expensive and hard to find. | |||
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Christensen Arms Ridgeline Or Weatherby TI | |||
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The PHL is a good choice. I would go with the Browning Micro Stalker. Any of the Browning Micros (Medallion, Hunter or Stalker) are very accurate right out of the box and they won't break the bank. Larry "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading" -- Thomas Jefferson | |||
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With that as the criteria, go with whatever floats your boat since there's never been a (modern) rifle built that won't shoot well enough to do that. Even the "dogs" rifles will shoot 2" groups at 100 and that will damn sure kill a deer. Zeke | |||
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I think the Browning X-Bolt is perfect for what you’re looking for. JP Sauer Drilling 12x12x9.3x72 David Murray Scottish Hammer 12 Bore Alex Henry 500/450 Double Rifle Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock 6.5x55 Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock .30-06 Walther PPQ H2 9mm Walther PPS M2 Cogswell & Harrison Hammer 12 Bore Damascus And Too Many More | |||
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Have you handled the H-S Precision? I'm not too far away. Mine was cerakoted after I bought it. ------------------------------- Some Pictures from Namibia Some Pictures from Zimbabwe An Elephant Story | |||
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Barrett Fieldcraft if you can find one. Styer Scout would be my second choice. All We Know Is All We Are | |||
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It’s hard to beat a Rifles, Inc. from Lex down in Pleasanton. Some make them light, some make them accurate, Lex does both or it isn’t leaving the shop. He will also be the man building it and will talk to you. I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills. Marcus Cady DRSS | |||
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No mention made yet of the Howa. I don't own one myself, but have friends that absolutely love theirs. No frills and not so pretty, but functional and accurate. | |||
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My son is student at Texas A&M. Since middle school he has had a couple HS Precision rifles, a SPL in 7mm-08 and a PHL in 300 H&H. He shoots both rifles really well. The 7mm-08 is really light. He has taken these rifles in Africa on 4 hunts. Our PHs absolutely loved those rifles. We did a leopard hunt in Zambia. We had to shoot a lot of bait. The PH went out of his way to grab the 7mm-08 no matter who was shooting. HS Precision makes an accurate rifle. Go Duke!! | |||
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I have kind of settled on ordering a H-S PHL. I might take you up on that Charles. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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What twist is ideal for this barrel...if I want to shoot 165 and 180 monos but also 165 Accubonds/Partitions as the main fodder? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Let me know. I use the Nosler Trophy Grade with the 165 grain Accubonds. ------------------------------- Some Pictures from Namibia Some Pictures from Zimbabwe An Elephant Story | |||
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Of course it's out of stock everywhere now... ------------------------------- Some Pictures from Namibia Some Pictures from Zimbabwe An Elephant Story | |||
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I also picked up one of these for the girls to shoot. M70 Classic Compact .308. Been a couple of years since I had the chance to shoot it though. ------------------------------- Some Pictures from Namibia Some Pictures from Zimbabwe An Elephant Story | |||
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You don’t want to part with that one^^^ do you? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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If I remember correctly, 18.5" for the original 600, 20" for the later 660 and 600 Mohawk. "For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind..." Hosea 8:7 | |||
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No, it's for my girls. Plus it has a shorter LOP because it is the compact model. Just saying you might find a donor and get it modified to your tastes. For my money the H-S Precision stocks feel better than the McMillan. ------------------------------- Some Pictures from Namibia Some Pictures from Zimbabwe An Elephant Story | |||
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