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Seeing if anyone has a load they like for 300 win mag using 200grain nosler partition. R22 is my powder for 186gr TSX at 76.0 gr and it is perfect. Never loaded the 200gr just wanted to see what’s out there. Cheers DRSS | ||
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double check your post. Something is amiss. -------------------- THANOS WAS RIGHT! | |||
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What is out there is the Nosler Reloading Guide. For Reloader 22 powder and a Nosler 200 Grain Partition bullet you can start at 68.5 grains of powder and depending on your rifle work your way up to what they consider maximum - 72.5 grains, all the while checking for signs of excess pressure. By the way, they list 75.5 grains of RL22 as being maximum for their 180 grain bullets. So I would think your load for the TSX is approaching being a little bit on the hot side. | |||
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More concerning is your 180 grain load for the TSX. Barnes lists a max load of 68.9 grains. Sure reloading manuals are a guide, but 7 grains over published max is pretty scary in my opinion. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Correction. Sorry I fat fingered. 180 gr TSX at 75.0 gr R22. Chrono 3050. DRSS | |||
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I’ve been reloading for 12 years. I understand load data and can look up loads in a book or on a website or through a software program. I was just looking for loads that work for a Bullet I have not used. DRSS | |||
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I have used H4831 and Retumbo for 200 partitions at 2900 fps. If I remember the H4831 did it with less powder. I would not be surprised if the R22 does good with that bullet too. I have been loading 200 sierra bt with R23 lately. -------------------- THANOS WAS RIGHT! | |||
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I took a 91/2 ft. Brown Bear at Cold Bay Alaska with a 200 gr. Nosler Partition Roundnose loaded with 71 grains of IMR-7828 and Federal 210 primer. It chroneyed 2900 fps and did a bang up job with bang flop results. I don’t think Nosler makes the Roundnose now but after that hunt I bought what box’s I could find thinking I would use it more in the future. I have loaded the 200 spire point the same way with the same points of impact. Good Shooting. phurley | |||
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I remember those 200gr Nosler "round nose" pard. They were actually "semi-pointed", but hey...First Cousin to roundnose, ha. I shot some in an old 1917 Enfield, but the 200 Sierra BT/Speer 200sp shot better. I had a 300 RUM made up for my Marine SILs 2nd Tour/Sandbox return in 2006. I loaded up the Nosler 200AB. In the 300WM, we used 76gr R22/180 XBT bullet on Plains Game with no recovered bullets! A 200 NP would have done the same I believe. Its also a good elk bullet in the 30-06. | |||
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CDHOMS, The 200 NP is a hammer in the 300 magnums. Try H-1000, RL 22 and H-4831. Best accuracy for me came with max loads. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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For 200gr pills and heavier, I reach for RE25, H1000 and Retumbo. RE22 is on the fast side for these heavy pills. I run 78gr of RE25 with Nosler 200gr Accubonds. This is close to max in my rifle. I use Retumbo in my comp rifle, only because it is long throated and I can fit enough in. Cheers. | |||
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I use that bullet and the 200 gr. accubond for deer and elk almost exclusively in my 30-06 and also used it for elk and deer in my old 300 H&H..Favorite bullet in both calibers. In my 06 I got the famed 2700 FPS with 200 gr. bullets that I got with the 180s, so whats to lose! I used both RL-22 and H414.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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CDHOMS - As I read this thread I was reviewing in my mind my reloading procedures and I think many if not all of my rifle loads are ABOVE Book. There are many that will tell us that you and I am in dangerous territory and while the approach will be stated politely the inference is "Why don't people reload the same way I do?" They feel the need to alert us to the fact that although we have proven our OLD reloads are safe in OUR rifles, the "Book" says we are idiots. Surely they were at our side as we worked up our OLD loads for OUR rifles and feel that we must have missed a pressure sign or some other alert because we are doing things differently than they would do them. When pressed they will admit that there are differences in barrels of identical calibers but seem to overlook that point when they refer to the "Book". That said, I load my 300 WinMag with 180g Noslers with a load of H4831 that is above book yet yields 3070fps over my chronograph and out of my 26" barrel and has super accuracy; but if I were to move up to a 200g bullet of your choice from where you are I would suggest you do as others have recommended. Reduce the power charge what ever you want and start over with the 200g bullet load work up using the knowledge and skills that you have acquired. Simple. OH Yea.....don't go over "THE BOOK" !!!!!!!!!!! | |||
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Lots of loads above book are "safe" in terms of not blowing up, but in general, your pressure is going to be above the recommended max. That costs you in terms of brass life. I have also found most custom barrels have a max lower than factory barrels without a loss in velocity. I also think MV is a good indication of safety. If you MVs are a lot higher than published velocities, your pressure is going to be high. | |||
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Book loads for a 300 win mag are always based on the factory/SAMMI COAL. If you have a Remington or a Winchester bolt gun with the spacer removed you can easily seat the bullets out much longer and as a result use more powder. None of the velocities mentioned in this thread are particularly hot given a 24-26" barrel. | |||
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I've used the 200 Accubond with MagPro and it's very effective on bears and elk. My brother has used the 200 partitions on many an Idaho elk but I don't remember his powder choice at the moment. Both loads are out of our 300 Win mags. Zeke | |||
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Keep in mind the reloading companies that publish the loads are extremely aware of lawyers laying the the bush ready to file a frivously law suit....Most of my most accurate loads are over book max by at least a grain or two sometimes more..If you understand the process of working up max loads, it works out well, if not best stick with book max loads.. We who fly by the seat of our pants seem to get by just fine without any terrible events, can only be compared to those who live in fear and perinoia who also get by about as well...  My favorite 30-06 and 300 H&H bullet for both deer and elk is the 200 gr. Accubond and the partition as well...I use RL-22 and H414 and push then at 2700 FPS plus a bit in the 06 and 3000 FPS plus in the 300 H&H with old WW2 surplus 4831 in the mod. 70s 26" tube..Ive bested these loads but backed off a bit to make brass last and wherever the accuracy was best. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Haven't loaded anything over 180gr. in my 300 win mag for many, many years. But if I would start a load for 200s in my rifle, I think R 26 powder would be on the very short list of what I would try. Personally, I can't justify using anything but a bullet around the 180 weight in the 300 win mag. It will handle anything a man could possibly want to hunt , if using the right type bullet for the job at hand. Accubonds work for most everything and partitions certainly are the standard for a good penetration bullet on truely big animals. | |||
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Can't argue with that Jeff..I use RL-22 or H414 in my 30-06 with 200 gr. Accubonds, and as a surprise it worked as well on 100 lb Texas Hill country whitetail does on cull as it has on elk over the years, both in my old 300 H&H with warm loads, and my 30-06 at 2700 FPS..IMO the accubonds are an all around magic bullet, but so it the partitions IMO.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I may be an old stick in the mud, but with my Sako AV in 300 Win Mag, I have always just used 180-grain Nosler Partitions(Accubonds are also very good). That has always been the best trade-off considering BC, Sectional density, energy, and accuracy for a single one load, do it all cartridge. Be careful with RL-22. It would be the PERFECT magnum powder, EXCEPT... Its trajectory changes significantly with the outside air temperature. Not saying don't use it, just saying bear in mind its temperature instability. Anyway, A 180-grain Partition at ~ 3,000fps is the answer to many questions. I would use the 200-grain if I expected the shots to be close, and the game tough (Nilgai, Blue Wildebeast, etc.).  | |||
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I also use R 22 in my .300 with the 180gr. and have done so for longer than I remember. The R 23 looks interesting though. I have used it loading the 7mm mag but hate to mess with a good thing in my .300 win mag. It is supposed to be more temp stable, but I'm not overly concerned about that. It does have a slight burn rate difference and may be a good option. Very much love the .300 win mag and I try to shoot it as often as I can. Even if all I get to kill is paper or steel. I do believe a good slow burn powder is best for 200s ,but the R22 does a pretty good job last I used it. | |||
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Many years ago I went to the 200 gr. bullets in both my 300 Win. mag, 300 H&H and even my 30-06. I get the same velocities with the 200s as I get with the 180s, that's 2700 FPS in the 06, and 3000 plus in the 300 magnums..so why not use the 200s?? BTW, I have no problem with those who use the 180 Noslers, they work well on big game, the 200s are just a bit better IMO.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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for 200gr Accubond I use 77.5 H1000, have used 72.5gr of R22
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Reloading books are just a guide of sorts, wroght with safety so the lawyers don't feed on them IMO..Many of my best loads are plus max by a grain or two and that's been where accuracy is best..but not all guns are such, so one must have the experience and knowledge to know where his guns max is..I make it a point to find that powder charge in each of my rifles, and many times I back off, sometimes not. That is what the reloading book boys do also. and I have seen starting loads lock up some rifles over the years, mostly lever and autos such as the short action Win 88 and 100, The Browning BLR and the Savage 99, some will take max plus while others will not even come close..Most bolt rifles will easily handle a grain or two over some book max loads and you will even see this when comparing loading books to loading books?? You as the hand loader simply must learn the process of reloading and keep in mind the reloading books are a walking contradiction neither fact nor fiction.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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