For those of you who might have picked up Handloader Magazine #265 and read Terry Wieland's article on the 7x61, I urge you to get the CORRECT info from Ken Water's Pet Loads. He also states that case arn't available; they are--from Huntington. Also TW state that "...that there were a few .275 H&H rifles kicking around, but it wasn't offered commericially." IT WAS!!!by the Western Cartridge Company in the early 1930's.

It would be great if this "writer" would take the time to do the research to get his facts correct.

Yes, I picked that up too. (The .275 H&H mis-info.) It is a shame that some younger gun-writers seem incapable of doing good research of the past's written documentation. I don't know if it is laziness, or just an assinine assumption that everyone in the old days was stupid, ignorant, and inept. Maybe they think that if it isn't on the internet it never happened.

I guess I am being too unkind to them, but really...the .275 H&H ammo was made and distributed in the states and some of the U.S. 'smiths also apparently chambered rifles for the round...the REAL "first" successful commercial 7 m/m belted short magnum.

There were certainly enough of the rifles in the 'States for Western to take a flyer at making over-the-counter ammo for a few years. I doubt they were all shot in H&H-built rifles like my matched pair was, either.

Certainly enough rifles also made by H&H to have ammo commercially available.

You just need to look back at old Kynoch catalogues to determine that.

It's a great cartridge. I used to own a H&H Takedown in that calibre.

Yes, not good that they don't research.

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Originally posted by gunmaker48:
.... read Terry Wieland's article on ...

This was all i needed to read to know it was wrong!

To 500N

It is amazing!! We can do the research but TW dosen't seem to be able to. They (Handloader) have another writer that both the Nosler gunsmith and a famous writer with the initials kw, agreed with me when I said he should stick to writing hunting stories instead of making a fool of himself trying to get technical.

gunmaker,

Yep, it amazes me.

We all understand that those of us interested in english guns / calibres do tend to collect info, books, catalgues etc and read a lot, even more than most, and all the info is available on line or at least a pointer to where to go to get it, I shake my head.

Also considering that everyone knows the forums are frequented by very knowledgeable people, if you want to know something, often a quick question on here will give you the answer or which reference book to look in.

Even COTW (Cartridges of the World) has good info on English stuff as a starting point - that needs to be cross referenced but it is still good.