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NOTA (None Of The Above) I reach first for the 300-06 That's not tho say there's anything wrong with the 300 Salvage or the 30(0)8 or even the 300-30 Win | |||
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None above... hunting with the .300 H&H however I do.  DRSS: HQ Scandinavia. Chapters in Sweden & Norway | |||
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None of the listed. I use the .300 H&H and the 8x75RS. The H&H is the most versatile .300 for reloaders and feeds better than all the rest. Mike JP Sauer Drilling 12x12x9.3x72 David Murray Scottish Hammer 12 Bore Alex Henry 500/450 Double Rifle Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock 6.5x55 Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock .30-06 Walther PPQ H2 9mm Walther PPS M2 Cogswell & Harrison Hammer 12 Bore Damascus And Too Many More | |||
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For all you troublemakers...see rule #1 Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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300 RUM! I'm the first to vote for that one it appears. Nothing I can't do with it. Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns | |||
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Sorry guys I forgot to add the 300 h&h I added it now | |||
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No need for more power than an 06 IMO but I chose the classic win mag. It would be interesting to see how the voting would go if the 06 was included. Captain Finlander | |||
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I have chosen 300 Weatherby because it has good performance and is it is possible to say this way, an outstanding figure: Does nobody more like the Weatherby? I am Spanish My forum:www.armaslargasdecaza.com | |||
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I hunt with the true 300, which is the 300 Savage. It work great on anything from elk to coyote. | |||
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ovny I see you're from Spain.....and most of the posters on AR are American.....the .300 Weatherby is fairly popular here but the .300 Winchester is quite a bit more popular as it's chambered in many more rifles and ammo historically is less costly. Further the Winchester offering is quite close in performance to the older Weatherby cartridge so many Americans don't mind the loss of velocity for the privelege of less costly ammo and being available in almost all American made guns and also most European made guns. Further, there's a heavy appreciation for traditional chamberings and a lot of us still like the .300 H&H rifles. It does make life a bit difficult for the .300 Weatherby trying to compete for it's market share. However after all that there's still a fair number of .300 Weatherbys in the hunting fields and everyone I know has a very healthy respect for it. It's one very fine cartridge. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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A good friend of mine has a 30.06 in a Winchester Featherweight, for his general purpose rifle, a Remington Sendero in 300 RUM for his long range rig. They made a great combo. Another friend carries the 300 RUM in a Remmy CDL. Sub MOA with 180 and 200gr AB's, it's a formidable rig. | |||
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There are a quite a few other .300 Magnums but they take a back-seat in terms of popularity against the 300 H&H and the 300 Win Mag. Dakota based their magnum range on the 404 cartridge case. Because the .300 Dakota has a larger rim diameter than the standard belted magnum cartridges, it requires a bolt specially manufactured or modified to match. No doubt this has limited the popularity of the .300 Dakota. Also it is a proprietary cartridge, as far as I know. The .300 Remington Ultra Magnum was only launched in 2000 by Remington. It is reminiscent of the 300 Canadian magnum (which was derived from the 404 Jeffery). This monster has 20% more powder capacity than the .300 Win. Mag. and 13% more capacity than the .300 Weatherby Mag. The .300 Ultra has a rebated rim that allows the body of the case to be fatter than the rim, which is the same size as the rim on the .300 Winchester Magnum and other standard magnum cases. This allows it to work with standard diameter magnum bolt faces, at the price of potentially reduced feeding reliability. Ballistically, the 300 Remington Ultra Magnum is not too far behind the 30-378. So, it is only 10 years old. It is more efficient than the .30-378 Weatherby Magnum in that it can produce nearly the same velocity with the use of roughly 10 percent less powder. The 30-378 is arguably the worst barrel burner out there. The Weatherby .30-378 Magnum is another attempt at a super .300 Magnum. It is based on the belted .378 Wby. Mag. case necked down to .30 caliber. The .378 case looks much like a belted version of the .416 Rigby case, on which it was based. Unlike the .300 Ultra Mag, the .30-378 Weatherby has a full diameter rim for maximum feeding reliability from the box magazines of bolt action rifles. Case life and barrel life are expected to be short for both the .300 Ultra and the .30-378, because of the high velocity and the great amount of powder burned. Recoil is severe, particularly in the relatively lightweight factory rifles often chambered for these cartridges. Warrior | |||
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Hello, thanks for the explanation. I will say to you that in Spain it is much more popular 300 Winchester than the Weatherby. That's why it does not surprise me, but I believed that in the USA there would be more valued the Weatherby than in Spain not to use it too many people. I, since well it is you who know, am in expectation of having a Vanguard in the caliber 300 Weatherby. A greeting, Oscar. I am Spanish My forum:www.armaslargasdecaza.com | |||
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I use the 300 WinMag. But the Weatherby is very tempting. The ones I have reloaded for and shot have shot great. Joe A. | |||
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Oscar, that rifle is quite popular here as well. It enjoys a fine reputation for accuracy and reliability. It's also affordable and many folks finally get their .300 Weatherby in that rifle.... Best wishes to you.... /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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None of the above, I use a 300SAUM. But I'd really, really like a 300H&H. | |||
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The 30-06 and 300 Winchester Magnum have been the standards by which other cartridges in the .300 class are being judged. The 300 Win Mag is a great cartridge, but to be efficient, it requires a minimum 24" barrel and 26" to better tap its potential. Hornady’s new 300 Ruger Compact Magnum, available in 150, 165 and 180 grain offerings, deliver 300 Win Mag level performance, but do it in a much shorter package with a shorter barrel. The new Ruger Compact Magnums deliver this performance using 10-15% less propellant than other magnums. This means longer barrel life and a 4-round magazine capacity. The new RCM’s selling point is that its efficient case geometry delivers exceptional velocities from 20" barrels combined with Hornady’s new propellant technology, and thus exceeds the performance levels of the WSM cartridges. From a design point of view Ruger's short magnum has the most appeal to me. By virtue of less powder that is being used it will have less muzzlw blast and a longer barrel life. Only problem is that handloaders will ever achieve factory ammo velocities as Hornady's special double base ball powder is not available to the market. Hornady's powder offers superior temperature stability from -15°F to 140°F as well. http://www.gunmart.net/gun_rev...keye_compact_magnum/ Warrior | |||
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Let me know if you need any brass. I load for a friend and my brother. The friend is going to the Nosler brass, so he has a LOT of Rem hulls, many once fired, and many new. I would have to hook you both up if you are interested. Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns | |||
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OOPS...didn't see where you lived until after I posted! Prolly not interested. Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns | |||
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 I use the 308 NormaAs usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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I'd still vote for the .300 H&H as far as the best overall .30 caliber cartridge ever designed. Howvever, if I had to choose a .30 caliber as a survival weapon or as the most affordable quality hunting .30 caliber, it's got to be the .30-06. Lots of .30-06's made, lots of ammo available, lots of choices in bullet weights, and ammo available everywhere.-------But when it comes to performance, the .300 H&H tops the list, and is the most reliable in any bolt action ever designed. It handles the heavier 200-220 grain bullets with the most efficiency.-----Most folks are not very familiar with the .300 H&H; I would challenge them to do their research. I'm a little passionate about this cartridge. Mike JP Sauer Drilling 12x12x9.3x72 David Murray Scottish Hammer 12 Bore Alex Henry 500/450 Double Rifle Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock 6.5x55 Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock .30-06 Walther PPQ H2 9mm Walther PPS M2 Cogswell & Harrison Hammer 12 Bore Damascus And Too Many More | |||
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.300 Win. 180gr @ 3000 fps is all you need. I've owned several Wbys but don't see any advantage of any of the higher case capacity .308 cartridges. There are two types of people in the world: those that get things done and those who make excuses. There are no others. | |||
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I think a 300 H&H in a classic rifle would be a great rifle to own. That is the only choice from your list I have an itch to own. The 300 WM is probably the practical choice and the big magnums are not my style. | |||
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My choice as well. I use 200 grainers that are rather long. Best accommodated by the 300H&H. Warrior | |||
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This is essentially what I was getting with my .30 Gibbs (180 gr NP @ 2996 fps) and for about 30 yrs that rifle/cartridge was my favorite for elk and larger critters. Unfortunately, about 5 years ago a fireforming incident ended that rifle's career. I've always admired the .300 Weatherby but couldn't justify getting one since I had and liked my .30 Gibbs so much. So after I retired my .30 Gibbs I had a .30 caliber vacancy in my gun safe and decided to fill it with a .300 Wby Vanguard. I put the blued .300 Wby barrel and action in a fancy piece of Claro walnut, topped it with a 4-12x Leupold, and tamed the recoil with a KDF brake and a mechanical reducer in the stock. This rifle looks great, shoots several different bullets moa at about 200 fps faster than my .30 Gibbs did, and it has hit the 4 animals that I have shot with it like the hammer of Thor. So I voted for the .300 Weatherby which is my new favorite rifle. NRA Endowment Life Member | |||
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my vote is the 300 H&H. if the 30-06 will kill anything (in my area of the world) then a couple hundred fps more isn't going to hurt... any more and the only thing that will hurt is your shoulder after a trip to the range. plus it feeds so smooth it is almost scary. | |||
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Thousand thank you  .Oscar. I am Spanish My forum:www.armaslargasdecaza.com | |||
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I shoot the 300 RUM. Sako 75, 180 gr. Nosler AB. 95 gr. RL-25. I shot a nice bull moose out of the canoe at 100 yds., this fall and this 300 rum., just keep's impressing me.I have never seen a moose drop straight down as fast as with this 300. ( All previous moose were shot with a .308 win.) | |||
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Doc, that's not a problem, I'm happy to buy from you blokes in the States. Many thanks for the offer but because the SAUM's have been added to the list of Remingtons abandoned children, I bought 150 cases when I bought the rifle (new, but heavily discounted), so I've got enough cases to see me out. | |||
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I love the Roy. It's not the H&H, but still gets my nastalgia vote. A true American designing a whole line to do it bigger and better and almost single handedly pioneering the "Magnum Age". Of course the 06 is good enough, hell the 30-30 is good enough, in fact there is a buffalo kill site dug up in Itaska State Park here in MN that suggests spears were good enough 8000 years ago, but Mr. Weatherby said 180 grains at 3200fps was indeed better, and I agree. In reality they all do the same job (30 Magnums) with inperceptable diffrences with regaurds to the end result. | |||
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.300 weatherby magnum, if the animal need more power: a) is not native from the eart, b) is bigger that the blue wave, or c) lives on the "loch ness" | |||
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can the 300 H&H be shot in 24" barrels today with modern powders? | |||
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Absolutely.....22" if you want.... I keep threatening to shorten mine....but haven't yet. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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The one you didn't list. The one that Winchester thought was better than their original.....  Cliff NRA Life Member CMP Distinguished Rifleman NRA Master, Short and Long Range | |||
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i use the 300 win mag, the powder that hornady is using will be available some time next year.packaged by hodgdon, hornadys newest manual has the load info in it.
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I own one .300, a .300SAUM and I love it! I have had people that had never fired a gun before shoot it and they had no problems with the recoil. Mine loves 165gr partitions and 168gr TSX, I haven't tried any heavier pills though. | |||
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My favorite is the 300 WSM, hands down.  | |||
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