I am about ready to start playing with a Rem 700 in 300 RUM that I bought about 6 years ago (NIB still). Is this round accurate or finiky?

Both of my custom 300 ultras will easily shoot 1/2" to 3/4" with their favorite loads.They will shoot MOA with several loads.

I have found them to be more forgiving with bullets that have less taper. It seems some do not take well to a lot of bullet jump. This does not pose a problem for me as the bullets with more taper tend to be less "sturdy" anyway.

Thanks. Any thoughts about trying either the Nosler 180's or the Barnes 168 triple shocks?

The 180 Noslers and Trophy Bonded have worked very well for me and a number of RUM shooters I know.

Have not tried Triple Shocks.

IMHO, the 300 RUM is at its best with a 200 gr bullet (Partition or Trophy Bonded).

Have not tried North Forks yet but they look good.

The most accurate bullets in my 300ultramags are the 180gr ballistic tip followed closely by the 180gr tsx.The 180gr tsx will drop less and be less affected by wind than either the 200gr partition or trophy bonded and will still out penetrate either.

If that is your only criteria why not use a FMJ?

Personally I enjoy using solids. I have shot quite a few Alaskan critters with them.

Had some issued to me in 1973, didn't much care for them.

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If that is your only criteria why not use a FMJ?

Firstly- because solids do not expand at all.The tsx does expand quite well and does create a good wound channel as it penetrates.

Secondly-non expanding bullets are not legal for big game hunting in my area.

Since you "finalized" your loads on August 13th of this year and plan to use the TSX on elk later this year, it would seem that you don't know first hand what they will do.

Theory is all well and good but some folks like to test their theories out before telling someone else how much better they are.

The 200gr and up will shine in the chambering. I have used H1000 and retumbo thus far with stellar results.

Try the 200gr accubond

I find the RUM's to be very loader friendly and quite accurate for the power they have.

The ballistic comparisons of the 180TSX and the 200gr partition or trophy bonded wouldn't exactly be considered theory. I don't have the interest to crunch the numbers at the moment but it's easliy done. I wouldn't say any of the three would be a bad performing bullet even if I hadn't yet tested one of them in a certain cartridge.

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Since you "finalized" your loads on August 13th of this year and plan to use the TSX on elk later this year, it would seem that you don't know first hand what they will do.

Theory is all well and good but some folks like to test their theories out before telling someone else how much better they are.

I have not used the tsx s in my particular rifles yet.However one of the major reasons that I worked up loads with them in the first place was that I have witnessed firsthand how they performed on game.Since they performed very well on game when fired from a friends rifle,I am thinking that it is safe to assume that the same bullet(same caliber and weight) will also perform well out of my rifles as well.As far as the ballistic comparisons are concerned,I have fired a fair number of the tsx s myself and have witnessed the trajectory and the effect that wind has on them.My statements were not based simply on speculation as you assume.

Alot of accuracy issues revolve around WHO is pulling the trigger

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However one of the major reasons that I worked up loads with them in the first place was that I have witnessed firsthand how they performed on game.Since they performed very well on game when fired from a friends rifle,I am thinking that it is safe to assume that the same bullet(same caliber and weight) will also perform well out of my rifles as well.

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On a side note,I did shoot a couple of the 168gr tsx's into a 1/2" steel plate 100 yards away and they both completely penetrated the plate.Given this,I doubt that any moose or elk shoulder blade will stop them.

Hmmm

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However one of the major reasons that I worked up loads with them in the first place was that I have witnessed firsthand how they performed on game.Since they performed very well on game when fired from a friends rifle,I am thinking that it is safe to assume that the same bullet(same caliber and weight) will also perform well out of my rifles as well.



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On a side note,I did shoot a couple of the 168gr tsx's into a 1/2" steel plate 100 yards away and they both completely penetrated the plate.Given this,I doubt that any moose or elk shoulder blade will stop them.

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[QUOTE]Hmmm

Ted

And your problem is?I did test both the 168gr tsx and the 180gr tsx in both of my 300 ultramags.The 180gr bullets did shoot better so I chose them to hunt with.I did have a couple of 168gr loads left over so I fired then at a steel plate to see what the result would be.Seeing as how the 168gr tsx s penetrated the plate,I didn't think it would prove anything to repeat the test with the 180gr bullets.

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I doubt that any moose or elk shoulder blade will stop them.

It wasn't so long ago you were hawking ballistic tips.

Even more recently, you shot through a plate and you doubt a moose or elk would stop them.

Without trying them, TSX's are now superior in terminal performance to what others have tested in the field for years.

They very well may be. But I haven't tested and neither have you.

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Even more recently, you shot through a plate and you doubt a moose or elk would stop them.

Without trying them, TSX's are now superior in terminal performance to what others have tested in the field for years.

They very well may be. But I haven't tested and neither have you.

Ted

So do you sincerely believe that a moose or elk shoulder blade is tougher than 1/2" steel?

As I stated previously,I have not used the tsx on game myself,but I have seen firsthand just what they will do.A fellow that I hunted with last year used the 180gr tsx in his 30-378 for elk,deer and moose.I helped clean the animals,so I did witness the results first hand.I was impressed with the results so I decided to try the tsx myself.Does it really matter if he pulled the trigger or if I did?

Shooting through steel plate is totally unrelated to shooting animals.Shooting steel only relates to shooting steel.With that being said I love the TXS they are extremely accurate and their performance on the game that I have shot with them has beem perfect.The best penetration on game would be the TXS and the Failsafe.

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Shooting through steel plate is totally unrelated to shooting animals.Shooting steel only relates to shooting steel.

Maybe so but the tsx and the original barnes x are the only bullets that I have fired that penetrated the plate.Coincidently these bullets along with the failsafe have displayed much more penetration on game than any other bullet in the animals that I have seen taken.

The Failsafe and the TXS will be the best penetrators.Shoot 3/8" steel plate with a 22-250 55grain varmint bullet and it shoots throuhg the plate,shoot the same plate with a 240 grain 44 mag and it only dents the plate shoot a hog with the 22-250 and the 44 mag and the 44 definately out penetrates the 22-250.Speed is the most important factor when it comes to penetrating steel.Many times when shooting game a big slow bullet outpenetretes a faster bullet when shooting game.

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Speed is the most important factor when it comes to penetrating steel.

I was using the same velocity with all of the bullets tested so velocity was not a factor.

I understand that, my point is that steel penetration does not relate to animal penetration two bullets of equall speed and diameter with one being harder than the other the harder one will penetrate further in steel.Sometimes on game the faster bullet penetrates less than a slower one of equall constrution.I shoot a lot of steel gongs cut out of one and a quarter inch steel plate and the TXS's leave larger dings than the lead core bullets.A millitary FMJ leaves deeper dents than the TXS's but on flesh and blood targets they are known to at times tumble and not pentrate as wells as expanding bullets.The point that penetration in steel and penetration in games is comparing apples to oranges

I now see that Federal is making 300 RUM brass. Have most of you been using the Rem brass, and if so, have you been happy with it?

I have only used the Federal brass from D&L
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Getting back to the original question, I have a custom 300 RUM and I love it.

I was easily able to achieve 1" groups of 5 and 1/2" groups of 3 after the bbl was broken in.

I do like the 200 Accubond bullet over Reloder 25 or Retumbo. Both shoot about the same with an unremarkable difference in velocity.

Given the case capacity, I also believe that either the 168 TSX (one of my all time favorite bullets) or the 180 would be outstanding on game. I do have enough experience with the 168 to tell you that it has performed flawlessly for me on mule deer and whitetails. I shot them from my 30.06.

Ultimately, for overall balance, it is my opinion that the 180 TSX is a bit better choice with the RUM. The 200 Accubond is traveling very flat in my rifle already.

I'll be in Colorado in late October, and I planned on loading up some 180 TSX's for the trip. Elk tags are OTC. I drew for mule deer. I would like to see what the 180 would do on an elk.

DOC, you will be very pleased with the 180 grain TXS I use the federal case fed.215primer and 99.5 grains of Retumbo the 180 TXS is the most accurate bullet that I have shot out of my rifle and that includes the Accubond and the 190 grain SMK

Great! I'll get to work on it this weekend, however, I do not have Fed. primers. Only WLRM.

Where do you get the Fed. brass? All I have is Remmy.

D&L? Contact info?

I only need a 125 rounds of the fed brass, anyone want to split an order?
http://www.dlsports.com/fed_300_rum_brass.html

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I'll second the notion of 200gr bullets working best in the 300 Ultra. I've loaded for 3 or 4 of them and the 200gr bullets seem to really work well in them. I've gotten excellent accuracy and ballistic performance with them. The 200gr Accubond load may be too hot for a lot of rifles so back off a bit. My Sako allows for long seating and my AOL crunched into the lands on my buddy's M-70. I think the 200gr Accubonds make great all-around bullets in the 300 RUM. The Elk was shot far enough away to make some of our members tell me I shouldn't have shot at it (even though it was a 1 shot kill)..................DJ

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I only need a 125 rounds of the fed brass, anyone want to split an order?
http://www.dlsports.com/fed_300_rum_brass.html

I'd be happy to split the order with you. 125 is plenty for me too. How would we do it?

djpaintles:

Nice group!

Great kill pic!

I guess there's really no need to change my 300 load as the 200 Accub. has really done well. But I bought some 180 TSX boat tails just because.

doc and snow wolf,..don't leave me out guys. Let's do the bulk order thing and get a better price.

snowwolfe sent me a PM regarding the brass. What do you have in mind?

I answered ya Doc

do rem 700 .300 RUMS shoot the 150 gr bullets accurately at all ??

what is the breakdown on say 500rnds or so? maybe we all get off cheaper that way? I hate the prep time it takes for the rem brass for my match rifle.

Thanks

$150 gets ya 250 pieces........$515 gets you a 1,000

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Do Rem 700 .300 RUMS shoot the 150 gr bullets accurately at all.

Mine shoots them just as accurate as it shoots anything else.