I'm a Mannlicher nut also. I have two MCA's, A model M, and a two of the Sakos. I believe S&K makes mounts for the MCA and the later S,M &L.

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Originally posted by Savage99:
After avoiding full stocked rifles I am now attracted to them for the moment. .

Isnt it funny how that works? I too have changed my position on them and now cant get enough of them. Im currently gathering parts to build a little 7X57 carbine with a full length stock.

I think the best one Ive ever seen was a little old Steyr/Manlicher in 280 rem with dual set triggers and a butterknife bolt handle that a guy in Reno had, the stock, metal work and rust blueing flowed together in a way that defies description.

I inherited from my father-inlaw a MS, M1903, in 6.5x54 around 5 -6 years ago. Didn't even know what it was until I did some days of research on the web. Got pretty hooked. It's beautiful, handles like a dream, and kills well.

With his stash came an unbarreled (1912?) unfinished military greek Mannlicher S., also 6.5x54. He was a fine metal smith and hobby gunsmith. Action is in the white, (he had stripped it and pollshed it like a mirror), and had began cutting the military stock down to the MS full length carbine dimentions. Very nice start, just not finished. I guess Pac-nor would provide a barrel for me (I'm in Oregon, so Pac-nor just makes sense) in 6.5x55 Swede, which I am told would probably be the best bet. Wouldn't have to alter the fine rotory magazine, and be able to shoot factory ammo too. It just sits in the safe, as I have yet been unable to justify a need to spend the bucks, but maybe someday.

Clayman

Does anyone know the function of a "Mannlicher" stock? It doubles up as a "Triolian ....... ....."

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Originally posted by Paolo9,5x73:
Does anyone know the function of a "Mannlicher" stock? It doubles up as a "Triolian ....... ....."

If you have to ask then we can't explain. I ignored Mannlicher stocks as well and now I want them.

It may be the same as high heels on a lady. It's something that you just know.

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Originally posted by clayman204:
I inherited from my father-inlaw a MS, M1903, in 6.5x54 around 5 -6 years ago. Didn't even know what it was until I did some days of research on the web. Got pretty hooked. It's beautiful, handles like a dream, and kills well.

With his stash came an unbarreled (1912?) unfinished military greek Mannlicher S., also 6.5x54. He was a fine metal smith and hobby gunsmith. Action is in the white, (he had stripped it and pollshed it like a mirror), and had began cutting the military stock down to the MS full length carbine dimentions. Very nice start, just not finished. I guess Pac-nor would provide a barrel for me (I'm in Oregon, so Pac-nor just makes sense) in 6.5x55 Swede, which I am told would probably be the best bet. Wouldn't have to alter the fine rotory magazine, and be able to shoot factory ammo too. It just sits in the safe, as I have yet been unable to justify a need to spend the bucks, but maybe someday.

Clayman

Clayman. The magazine will not work with the 6.5x55 Swede. Mannlicher magazines are cartridge specific. The Swede is a larger bodied round, and I knew a gunsmith that tried to alter one to another cartridge. It almost drove him to drink, and the magazine conversion never did work.
I have a Greek mannlicher action and figured I might be able to convert it to 6.5 Jap, but the ound is a bit too fat. Maybe the 6.5 Carcano might work, but I have to find a cartridge to try first.
Paul B.

Yep, I'm someone else who originally would not touch a Mannlicher stocked rifle with a ten foot pole.

As someone said, a maturing of taste occurs and then you own one. Mine is a simple 550 in 6.5X55 with a K4 on Warne rings.

UPDATE:

After over a month now I continue to be impressed by it's sleek elegance.

The other day my .243 M77 RSI gave me 4/4 rounds into .80" at 100 off a sandbagged rest (with the factory iron sights - no scope!). She's performing better than I had hoped. It's factory original - not been bedded or accurized in any way, so very pleased.

Oh my, thats disapointing news. So much to learn and so little time. I can now not remember who told methat the swede would fuction in the rotory mag. Sorry to hear it's not so. Reckon that probably quelches the idea of barreling this old action, since I'd have to go with another 6.5x54. I just don't need two of them.

Here in Central oregon seems I have little use for the one that is complete. I hunted with it three years ago, took a little forky mule at not more that 40 yards. That 160 gr round nose broke some bige bones. Little meat damage. I was impressed. But mostly I hunt much more open country. Keep saying I take the Mannlicher back out and go after blacktail on the coast. Should be great for the thickets over there, but I never get around to it.

Clayman

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Originally posted by Paul B:

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Originally posted by clayman204:
I inherited from my father-inlaw a MS, M1903, in 6.5x54 around 5 -6 years ago. Didn't even know what it was until I did some days of research on the web. Got pretty hooked. It's beautiful, handles like a dream, and kills well.

With his stash came an unbarreled (1912?)
unfinished military greek Mannlicher S., also 6.5x54. He was a fine metal smith and hobby gunsmith. Action is in the white, (he had stripped it and pollshed it like a mirror), and had began cutting the military stock down to the MS full length carbine dimentions. Very nice start, just not finished. I guess Pac-nor would provide a barrel for me (I'm in Oregon, so Pac-nor just makes sense) in 6.5x55 Swede, which I am told would probably be the best bet. Wouldn't have to alter the fine rotory magazine, and be able to shoot factory ammo too. It just sits in the safe, as I have yet been unable to justify a need to spend the bucks, but maybe someday.

Clayman

Clayman. The magazine will not work with the 6.5x55 Swede. Mannlicher magazines are cartridge specific. The Swede is a larger bodied round, and I knew a gunsmith that tried to alter one to another cartridge. It almost drove him to drink, and the magazine conversion never did work.
I have a Greek mannlicher action and figured I might be able to convert it to 6.5 Jap, but the ound is a bit too fat. Maybe the 6.5 Carcano might work, but I have to find a cartridge to try first.
Paul B.

458Rugerno1, you have precision of a cyborg with that thing! The best I could do with factory iron sights on my Steyr-Mannlicher 7x57 was 2,5" to 3".

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Originally posted by Paolo9,5x73:
Does anyone know the function of a "Mannlicher" stock? It doubles up as a "Triolian ....... ....."

No idea if it's true but I have read somewhere that the stock style developed in the Alps to protect the barrel from damage from falling or dropping.

Mannlicher stocked carbines have had a reputation of shooting 2-3 inch 100 yard groups. In my experience with some 25-27 assorted Mannlicher-
Schoenauers, I'll say that soome do and some don't. I have had several that will do the one inch thing with the right ammo, usually with the heavy bullets too. M-S half stock rifles seem to shoot as well as any other 22-24 inch barreled rifle. My .243 Steyr-Mannlicher Jagdmatch often does half inch groups, and I am quick to call it an exception.
However, in Mannlichers you should also consider the Remington M-7 (MS) custom shop rifle, which is a form, fit, and function Mannlicher M1903 carbine clone without the rotary magazine. I like my 7mm-08 M7 (MS) so well I just bought another in .260 Remington to have a real M1903 clone. Now I just hope the M-7 carbine shoots as well as my ancient M1903 carbine.
LLS
(Yeah, I am a serious Mannlicher-Schoenauer freak)

I wanted a stainless Remington 7 mannlicher, but Remington wouldn't make 1 for me, so I bought a stainless 7 in 260 and a new take-off laminated mannlicher stock from a 'smith who was parting it out for the action. What kind of guy buys a 7 mannlicher for the action? I think that I paid $150 for the stock and barrel (7MM-08), so I guess that was about the most expensive Remington 7 action a guy could find.

The Remington 7 mannlicher is OK, but I think that the Husqvarnas are better balanced.

Jeff

I just took out two RSIs and tested them with two different factory loads. Both guns where a little disappointing in the accuracy dept - 2 inches, plus or minus. One was a .243 and the other was a .308.

Hopefully I can handload for them and see if I can tighten up the groups.

Try putting a neoprene "O"-ring around the barrel, so that there isn't any metal to metal contact were the barrel exits the stock. Neoprene is soft enough to conform to tight places and it also absorbs some of the barrel vibrations. This "trick" almost always improves the groups on a mannlicher stocked rifle.

Jeff

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Originally posted by 260remguy:
Try putting a neoprene "O"-ring around the barrel, so that there isn't any metal to metal contact were the barrel exits the stock. Neoprene is soft enough to conform to tight places and it also absorbs some of the barrel vibrations. This "trick" almost always improves the groups on a mannlicher stocked rifle.

Jeff

Interesting. I will have to try that.

The no1 RSI in 7x57 is pretty good too. The more I handle the no 1 the more I like it. What is it about that bit of wood all along to the end of the barrel? What ever it is, it pleases my eye. The factory mounts have been replaced by a set of Leupy low mounts, thanks to the kindness of a Fjold a fellow member of these pages. I agree that Leupy mounts spoil M/S rifles, but to my eye they improve the No 1. It sits better in the hands with the lighter mounts.

I think I am right in saying, perhaps some of our European friends will comment, that the correct generic word for what we call a Mannlicher stock is a stutzen stock. Mannlicher has caught on, much in the way that Hoover has for vacuum cleaners.

I too have read that the wood to the end of the barrel is there to protect the barrel. However I think it might also be like that to aid balance.

I blew a feral cat into the next world with the RSI two two nights ago. I can hardly wait for spring to come around so that I can take it down the woods for a look see for a deer.