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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
when all is said and done, it is nothing, more or less, than a marketing ploy to get someone to fill a need the marketing dept created to sell a few new rifles.

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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
true, Ray, but show me any caliber segment that can actually be improved by a lower velocity chambering.

I have an OM 70 in 300 Holland, so there is not much that interests me until I get my 9,3x62 stocked. I am going to get a 338 EDGE put together next summer, that is a 338 that interests me.

I think the short action phenomenon is another marketing ploy to sell new rifles for a created "need".

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Originally posted by Ray Alaska:
While I may use bullet weights from 225 to 275 grains with the Magnum, for the .338 Federal I would choose a lighter bullet from 160 to perhaps 210 grains. After all, the larger bore works in favor of lower pressures.

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....show me any caliber segment that can actually be improved by a lower velocity chambering...

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Is the 338 federal dead?

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So 30-06 would solve most people gun needs, but we all know that cartridge is old outdated and no longer useful for any kind of hunting or target shooting.

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The nice thing about the 338 Federal is all you need is 308 brass

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Originally posted by vapodog:

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The nice thing about the 338 Federal is all you need is 308 brass

That's true, but if I had the .308 brass, all I need to do is to load it to the .308 and it'll do everything the .338 Federal will do and more.

What we really needed is a 9.3-08

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Originally posted by vapodog:

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The nice thing about the 338 Federal is all you need is 308 brass

That's true, but if I had the .308 brass, all I need to do is to load it to the .308 and it'll do everything the .338 Federal will do and more.

What we really needed is a 9.3-08

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What you get with the .338-caliber bullet is a bigger hole than a .30-caliber bullet.

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I know you've always been jealous of my 338 Federal.

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Originally posted by Norwegianwoods:
Personally I don't see the point of the 338 Federal at all but trying to be different.

And that is totally fine if that is important to you

If you want something slower than the 338 Win Mag with a good bullet diameter and gentle recoil, then buy a 9.3x62.
Way better cartridge than the 338 Federal.
Even the old and close to obsolete 9.3x57 is a better choice in my opinion.

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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:


I think the short action phenomenon is another marketing ploy to sell new rifles for a created "need".

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Originally posted by 416Tanzan:
dudes and dudesses,

it's all a sliding cline, a compromise.

33/08 is a bigger hole than a 30/08, but slower at the same sectional density.

35/08 is a bigger hole than a 33, but even slower still at the same sectional density.

If someone tries to maintain sectional density and velocity, then recoil and muzzle energy go way up: a 338 (win mag) can send a 225 grain at 2825fps (~4000ftlbs). If one goes up to .416" then a person must shoot a 350 grain projectile at 2825fps (~6200ftlbs). The 225gn .338" and the 350gn .416" are both at about the same sectional density.

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What will a .338 federal do that an 8X57 loaded to similar pressure wouldn't do just as well & better at longer ranges?

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Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
The truth is, virtually every cartridge based on the 308 parent case ends up being a pretty good cartridge. They usually only duplicate what can be accomplished with older cartridges but that's not a bad thing. Regards, Bill.

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Originally posted by vapodog:
When I go to Webster's dictionary and look up the word "redundancy", all I see is a photo of a .338 federal......it seems they think that says it all.....

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Originally posted by vapodog:
When I go to Webster's dictionary and look up the word "redundancy", all I see is a photo of a .338 federal......it seems they think that says it all.....

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Originally posted by scottfromdallas:

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Originally posted by vapodog:
When I go to Webster's dictionary and look up the word "redundancy", all I see is a photo of a .338 federal......it seems they think that says it all.....

It's strange, I must have an older version. When I looked up "redundancy" it had a picture to Vapodog?

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Originally posted by blacktailhunter:
The bad thing about posts like this is that they lead naive hunters/shooters to believe that there is something wrong or inadequate with the 338 Federal. 3 years ago I became interested in the Federal, even though I my 30-06 and 308 hunting rifles were serving me just fine. I usually hunt elk and deer at least twice apiece, each year. We don't leave many tags unfilled in our party so the performance of various calibers get the real-world test. I for one am a huge fan of the caliber. Although I acquired it after my 30-06 and 308, it would be the last one that I'd let go. I've killed elk, whitetail and blacktail deer with it and it has performed excellently! It provides the power of the 30-06 in a shorter package that uses less powder and kicks less...and with the 200-210 grain bullets I use it's a better option for elk, in my opinion. Yes, you can put big bullets in the 308, but the velocity and trajectory really suffer. As previously stated, any caliber out there isn't really needed, we can argue about that on these websites until we're blue in the face. The important thing that people need to understand is that the 338 Federal is a very good cartridge, it's great on game, and a lot of fun to shoot. We commonly shoot water-filled milk jugs at 300-350 yards for practice during the off season. The trajectory of the Federal for this application is surprisingly good, this isn't just a short-range gun.

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You guys have been beating this one back and forth for about a month now, so I'd say it isn't dead at all.

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Originally posted by 303carbine:
The 338 Fed is not as cool as the 358 Win, the two can probably do the same job, but I don't have need of a 338 Fed.

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More cool choices in bullet designs and brands and better ballistic coefficients.