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This is a bit of a generalisation (and has probably been asked before ),but would it be safe to say that the 8-06; 318 WR and the 338-06 are basically ballistic clones, given identical bullet weights and loads ??

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Close First cousins, maybe not exactly clones.


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The 318 WR and 338-06 Almost exactly the same as is the 338 Sabi.


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Let's not forget to include the 35 Whelen and the 8x60S in this pot. Big Grin

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No, although they're physically similar. Neither 8mm/06 nor .338/06 have been normalized, but max pressure for both is usually accepted to be 60,000 to 62,000 PSI, and published pressure tested loading data conforms. Max pressure for the .318 Westley Richards is 47,900 PSI. Put another way, a max load in either of the 8mms would be a proof load in the .318.
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400 Nitro is correct.

The 318 and the 333 Jeffery had a good hunting reputation in Africa.

With the proper bullet their hunting effectiveness can be duplicated with the 338/06 and the 35 Whelen.

However IMHO the best of the best in this power/recoil range is the 9,3x62 for bolt rifles and the 9,3x74R in double rifles.

The 9,3,s have the advantage of being able to step up to cape buff and elephant better than the others, if necessary.


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This is getting away from the answer I was looking for. Theoretically, is there any real difference in downrange ballistics between a 8/06 imp. compared to a 318WR loaded similarly with 250gr. projectiles? Bullet diameter being only 7 thou. difference.

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In my opinion, no difference.


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thank you,in all fairness ,the biggest game I'm looking at would be sambar (elk )and maybe a big pig.

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Actually, has anyone heard of the 333 OKH?
 
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thank you,in all fairness ,the biggest game I'm looking at would be sambar (elk )and maybe a big pig.

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Roger,

Given your parameters, why not just get a 30-06?
It will do the job you have in mind easily, and
leave enough money left over for other things!
 
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The thing is,Don , I already have an 8-06 and the question was really for confirmation

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The 250 gr .323" bullet has the highest sectional density. While many of the 250 gr .338's have better BC due to their streamlined shape. Will any animal ever know the difference? I doubt it. Shoot what ya got and spend the money on more practice time and hunts.




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The thing is,Don , I already have an 8-06 and the question was really for confirmation

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Roger,
Given that you can load a Woodleigh 200gr or 220gr in either RN (my favourite Woodleigh style for soft game) or PP styles, plus a 250gr RN if you feel that way inclined ... I doubt you'll have any trouble rolling a Sambar with proper placement.
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Woodleigh makes a 250 grain 8mm bullet? If I knew that, I would have got myself an 8 mauser a long time ago.


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by gbanger:
Woodleigh makes a 250 grain 8mm bullet? If I knew that, I would have got myself an 8 mauser a long time ago.[/QUOTE}

Here's the bullet list URL Big Grin

http://www.woodleighbullets.co...llet%20List%203.html


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The 318 WR and 338-06 Almost exactly the same as is the 338 Sabi



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The 338 Sabi is almost exactly the same as the 318 WR and 338-06 both of which were around long before the sabi.



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Woodleigh makes a 250 grain 8mm bullet? If I knew that, I would have got myself an 8 mauser a long time ago.


What twist rate would be appropriate for this 250 gr, 8mm bullet?

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The thing is,Don , I already have an 8-06 and the question was really for confirmation

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8mm/06... You are good to go Just pick the proer bullet for the game you are going to shoot.


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400 Nitro is correct.

The 318 and the 333 Jeffery had a good hunting reputation in Africa.

With the proper bullet their hunting effectiveness can be duplicated with the 338/06 and the 35 Whelen.

However IMHO the best of the best in this power/recoil range is the 9,3x62 for bolt rifles and the 9,3x74R in double rifles.

The 9,3,s have the advantage of being able to step up to cape buff and elephant better than the others, if necessary.

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