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30 July 2009, 03:29
yumastepside
8mm-318-338
This is a bit of a generalisation (and has probably been asked before ),but would it be safe to say that the 8-06; 318 WR and the 338-06 are basically ballistic clones, given identical bullet weights and loads ??

Roger
30 July 2009, 03:32
DuggaBoye
Close First cousins, maybe not exactly clones.


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30 July 2009, 06:18
510wells
The 318 WR and 338-06 Almost exactly the same as is the 338 Sabi.


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30 July 2009, 06:25
Kabluewy
Let's not forget to include the 35 Whelen and the 8x60S in this pot. Big Grin

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30 July 2009, 07:08
400 Nitro Express
No, although they're physically similar. Neither 8mm/06 nor .338/06 have been normalized, but max pressure for both is usually accepted to be 60,000 to 62,000 PSI, and published pressure tested loading data conforms. Max pressure for the .318 Westley Richards is 47,900 PSI. Put another way, a max load in either of the 8mms would be a proof load in the .318.
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30 July 2009, 07:23
N E 450 No2
400 Nitro is correct.

The 318 and the 333 Jeffery had a good hunting reputation in Africa.

With the proper bullet their hunting effectiveness can be duplicated with the 338/06 and the 35 Whelen.

However IMHO the best of the best in this power/recoil range is the 9,3x62 for bolt rifles and the 9,3x74R in double rifles.

The 9,3,s have the advantage of being able to step up to cape buff and elephant better than the others, if necessary.


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30 July 2009, 08:41
yumastepside
This is getting away from the answer I was looking for. Theoretically, is there any real difference in downrange ballistics between a 8/06 imp. compared to a 318WR loaded similarly with 250gr. projectiles? Bullet diameter being only 7 thou. difference.

Roger.
30 July 2009, 10:23
N E 450 No2
yuma

In my opinion, no difference.


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30 July 2009, 11:03
yumastepside
thank you,in all fairness ,the biggest game I'm looking at would be sambar (elk )and maybe a big pig.

Roger
30 July 2009, 18:30
Don Slater
Actually, has anyone heard of the 333 OKH?
30 July 2009, 18:36
Don Slater
quote:
Originally posted by yumastepside:
thank you,in all fairness ,the biggest game I'm looking at would be sambar (elk )and maybe a big pig.

Roger



Roger,

Given your parameters, why not just get a 30-06?
It will do the job you have in mind easily, and
leave enough money left over for other things!
31 July 2009, 02:57
yumastepside
The thing is,Don , I already have an 8-06 and the question was really for confirmation

Roger
31 July 2009, 10:40
z1r
The 250 gr .323" bullet has the highest sectional density. While many of the 250 gr .338's have better BC due to their streamlined shape. Will any animal ever know the difference? I doubt it. Shoot what ya got and spend the money on more practice time and hunts.




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01 August 2009, 02:23
Con
quote:
Originally posted by yumastepside:
The thing is,Don , I already have an 8-06 and the question was really for confirmation

Roger


Roger,
Given that you can load a Woodleigh 200gr or 220gr in either RN (my favourite Woodleigh style for soft game) or PP styles, plus a 250gr RN if you feel that way inclined ... I doubt you'll have any trouble rolling a Sambar with proper placement.
Cheers...
Con
01 August 2009, 06:20
gbanger
Woodleigh makes a 250 grain 8mm bullet? If I knew that, I would have got myself an 8 mauser a long time ago.


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01 August 2009, 06:39
510wells
[QUOTE]Originally posted by gbanger:
Woodleigh makes a 250 grain 8mm bullet? If I knew that, I would have got myself an 8 mauser a long time ago.[/QUOTE}

Here's the bullet list URL Big Grin

http://www.woodleighbullets.co...llet%20List%203.html


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02 August 2009, 06:06
D Humbarger
quote:
The 318 WR and 338-06 Almost exactly the same as is the 338 Sabi



correction:

The 338 Sabi is almost exactly the same as the 318 WR and 338-06 both of which were around long before the sabi.



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02 August 2009, 07:45
Kabluewy
quote:
Originally posted by gbanger:
Woodleigh makes a 250 grain 8mm bullet? If I knew that, I would have got myself an 8 mauser a long time ago.


What twist rate would be appropriate for this 250 gr, 8mm bullet?

KB


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02 August 2009, 12:15
N E 450 No2
quote:
Originally posted by yumastepside:
The thing is,Don , I already have an 8-06 and the question was really for confirmation

Roger



8mm/06... You are good to go Just pick the proer bullet for the game you are going to shoot.


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04 August 2009, 02:58
oldun
quote:
Originally posted by N E 450 No2:
400 Nitro is correct.

The 318 and the 333 Jeffery had a good hunting reputation in Africa.

With the proper bullet their hunting effectiveness can be duplicated with the 338/06 and the 35 Whelen.

However IMHO the best of the best in this power/recoil range is the 9,3x62 for bolt rifles and the 9,3x74R in double rifles.

The 9,3,s have the advantage of being able to step up to cape buff and elephant better than the others, if necessary.

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