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I like my customs. But, there's something interesting about a hunting rifle with lots of "miles" & wear and tear on it, kind of tells a story. Got one of those? Please share.   Life itself is a gift. Live it up if you can. | ||
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My beater is more like your box of ammo..Its a pre 64 mod. 70, 30-06 been accused of being stainless steel, but its not, and the stock is exhibition drift wood, and its one of several that's been used to death...Im very comfortable with these guns, I don't have to baby them around, run a rag down the bore now and then, the shoot sub one inch, most all loads to the same POI, that's why Ive never soldl them..btw I bought the mod. 70 on AR, best gun Ive ever owned, seen lots of saddle scabbard since I bought it, shot lots of elk, and deer, some PG, a buffalo, culled whitetail, My go too gun, I call her my mistress...I have a couple of more such rifles, but she is special. I don't post pictures and too old to care!  Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I don't have any Mossberg's to show  Guns and hunting | |||
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my push feed model 70 in 7X57 ICL probably fits the bill of looking more like the box of ammo too. bluing missing in places, multiple dings/gouges/scratches in the plain jane yellow beech stock, the scope has a dent in the bell end, it's a little too long in the L.O.P. for me. but it has shot pretty much everything from rabbits through moose. it's been partially replaced by a Bergara B-14 in 30-06 that's starting to get some shiny edges on the metal and the scope is getting a bit worn down too. | |||
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Butchloc's Mossbergs are "beaters" when they're NIB :-) | |||
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M700 30-06 in a Brown Precision stock. Happens to be after a fairly recent coat of Rustoleum so it looks "pretty" in this photo.  Have gun- Will travel The value of a trophy is computed directly in terms of personal investment in its acquisition. Robert Ruark | |||
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J.C. Higgins model 50, 30-06, it's ugly, why would I have pictures of it? It's my go too when I can't decide on something else. | |||
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Ugly schmugly. Every picture tells a story, don' it. I'd be glad to put pics of your "beater" on here. Just PM me and I'll give you my email address for pics. The uglier the better. I bought some custom parts from a guy once and his beater was a '09 Argy with a sawed off stock and duct tape (now worn to a fuzz at the edges) wrapped around the fore end and barrel. He stopped counting dead whiteys he had taken with it at around 50. Life itself is a gift. Live it up if you can. | |||
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All my rifles are beater rifles. That doesn't mean they are beaten up. I had a full custom with great wood done and never liked hunting with it because it was too nice. So, all my rifles are ok to get beaten. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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I have a Canoe paddle stock stainless Ruger M77 .30-06 for such duty. I won't post a picture, since it is like a thousand other such rifles. It is almost indestructible, reasonably accurate, and works. Every time. I have a Zeiss Conquest 3-9x scope on it, and a NECG peep sight for "emergencies". It is about as soulless as a rifle can get. I like yours better. But it would break my heart to use such a svelte and stylish German kipplauf stalking rifle as a 'beater". I have a plan to acquire one like yours, probably a Merkel K3 Jagd in 7x65R with upgraded wood and perhaps custom engraving. It will never be a "beater". | |||
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Rem 710 in .270 win. A tad better than 1 moa and not afraid of abuse. Doug Wilhelmi NRA Life Member | |||
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My beater rifle is now way too pretty to beat up. I have a cz550 left hand in 375H&H that I beat up over 4 trips to Africa. I had Wayne at AHR work on the gun initially and after I was done the Cerakote was worn off. I sent it back to Wayne and he rebuilt it with beautiful wood and all new bells and whistles. It’s now super pretty and sits as a display/home defense gun in my bedroom. I have started taking my k95 in a soft case into the deer stands so as to not beat it up. Tough to beat up a pretty gun and nice wood. Mike | |||
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Mine is listed in the classified section... Mauser 98 in 9.3x62   Shoot Safe, Mike NRA Endowment Member | |||
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Here's one for you. Not a beater but a well used 1965 Winchester model 70, the gun the pre-64 folks love to hate in 338 Win mag. Blueing gone in several places and many chips & gouges. Funny the picture makes it look better than it is. But it's accurate, feeds and fires every time reliably and doesn't weigh a ton. Many more years yet in the old girl. [url=https://postimg.cc/G4ZmrjFP]  Roger ___________________________ I'm a trophy hunter - until something better comes along. *we band of 45-70ers* | |||
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Beat up old “Type A” Mauser in 9.3x62. The stock is heavily dented. Thin blue everywhere. Pictured next to it is a new Ruger Lipsey’s Ruger Hawkeye African, in the same caliber, just to show how similar they are in form.    Matt FISH!! Heed the words of Winston Smith in Orwell's 1984: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." | |||
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Since you have that nice new Ruger that needs to gain some experience, I'd be more than happy to take that old A type off your hands! | |||
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my current beater is just a savage AXIS XP STAINLESS in 308 .. torqued all the action screws, scope rings and bases, and turned the trigger down.. honest sub MOA with remington green box 308 ... favorite beater? hard to say between a 20" mexican mauser in 358 with a soda straw for a barrel and remington rake off sights or my soda straw stainless barrel on a nickled mauser 98 in 7x64 ... the 7x64 is certainly a favored hunting friend ... but for "grab a gun, lets do drive the back 40" it's just the plain jane, ugly as homemad sin, savage ... it shoots, its stainless, and it shrugs off a beating like mike tyson opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Bought this Weatherby Mark V in 270 Weatherby (made in Japan) for $800. Scars on the stock, most of the bluing gone on the barrel, shoots lights out.  Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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I've had this rifle on lots of hunts and taken many animals with it. I've also let others use it to take quite a few. It has seen every condition you can imagine. [URL=  ][/URL] [URL=  ][/URL] [URL=  ][/URL][URL=  ][/URL] [URL=  ][/URL] [URL=  ][/URL] | |||
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Restocked JC Higgins model 50, and even the restock has been busted and repaired. Col. Whelen was right when he said, "The 30-06 is never a mistake."  | |||
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Cool stories, cool pics. Life itself is a gift. Live it up if you can. | |||
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I'm afraid posting pictures of some of my 'good' rifles might break the screen, let alone the beaters.... Recently had a 'new' 35W put together with a stainless bbl on a dumpster find M77 and a stock unprofessionally whittled by myself. I showed it to a local young hunter as soon as I had put together and his comment was 'Geez, seeing as your a guide and all, you'd think you could afford a NEW rifle once in a while!' | |||
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Win 670 30-06 carbine, trigger safety, M70 hinged fp, plastic m70 stock. This is the transition 670 .  | |||
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I can see how folks who must use their rifles as walking staffs when crossing shallow rivers, and are subject to such varied weather related calamities, would rather not spend good money on high dollar rifles that are functionally no better than utilitarian beaters. However, I question the choice of 35 Whelen since the “Eurotrash” 9.3x62 is so vastly superior in every possible way!!  Matt FISH!! Heed the words of Winston Smith in Orwell's 1984: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." | |||
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setters5's beater. Nice Bison ya got there Greg.  Life itself is a gift. Live it up if you can. | |||
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I would love to hear your loads for the Whelen! Would like to see pictures too by the way. I’m sure that the son of the King of Rustoleum has a worthy rifle. "The liberty enjoyed by the people of these states of worshiping Almighty God agreeably to their conscience, is not only among the choicest of their blessings, but also of their rights." ~George Washington - 1789 | |||
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This is my "beater", a pre-64 Winchester Model 70 in .300 H&H Magnum. It was beat up when I got it, and since I knew it would be seeing rough use, I never had it "tarted up". It shoots Winchester 180 grain Silvertips right where they need to go and has accounted for a passel of plains game. Here I am with the gerenuk I finally bagged. I kept over estimating the range and shooting over the little guys. This one was angling toward me, hence the location of the exit wound. You can barely make out the entrance wound in the chest from a fleck of blood.    | |||
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You are correct about the 9.3 being superior - except in one very important way - Ammo availability. The Whelen is rare enough, but I can buy ammo in most major hub in Alaska. As a handloader you might think this unimportant, but as a guide it can be an issue when you find yourself headed into the field in a remote location and are low on ammo or find yours missing. It happens. Even better, I can buy very high quality ammo at both main cities in Alaska, when often the only 9.3 ammo is cheap European stuff made for export and with slow soft bullets. And even more important than that - I already had hundreds of rounds of loaded ammo, brass, bullets, and dies from my last Whelen! So yes, if I was in early 20th century Africa I would gladly take the 9.3. In fact, when I was in Africa I did most of my hunting with one. Fantastic caliber. But not being a Walter Mitty type and wanting a more practical tool, I choose the 35. If not for ammo the 370 Sako, 9.3x64 Breneke, or 375 Scoville would be my choice. But a rifle without ammo is less interesting than an inaccurate rifle.... | |||
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I’ll have to look up my actual loads, but I’ve been having fun putting some together. I’ve got a good load with Varget for 225 SGK and NP just over 2700 that shoots flat to 300. 246gr casts with TB that are very fun to shoot, about like a 357 in a rifle. 220 Speers with H4895 at 2000fps for deer. Speer 250 Hot Core at 2600 - straight from a Brian Pearce article. And 310 Woodlieghs - haven’t chronographed them yet but very accurate and kick hard so they must have some snort! But I have to admit my go-to load is Buffalo Bore 225 TSX. They chrony right at 2750 from my 22” bbl and shoot better than most of my handloads. And cheaper than any 375 ammo. They also shoot to the same POI as my 225 handloads so I can practice with SGKs and save the BB stuff for work. | |||
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This thread is depressing.... I'm realizing many of my more commonly carried rifles don't look good enough to be appear in the "beater" category. | |||
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I was just making a friendly jab. Your dad made a funny comment about you on here, not too long ago, describing your preference for the 35 Whelen, and some mild contempt for the “Eurotrash” 9.3. While I prefer the 9.3x62, I think the Whelen is great, as well.  Matt FISH!! Heed the words of Winston Smith in Orwell's 1984: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." | |||
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