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If you have to choose one Bullet Manufacturer..
27 October 2011, 20:58
GhubertIf you have to choose one Bullet Manufacturer..
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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
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Originally posted by scottfromdallas:
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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
dumb question... would hate to have to face that choice..
It's actually a hypothetical question, not a dumb one.
okay.. a dumb HYPOTHETICAL question
I'll have to disagree with the both of you here, it's a fallacious existential question.
27 October 2011, 21:01
MThuntrNosler is my first choice only if I can pick up factory seconds.
Hornady tends to be my go-to if I can't get Factory Seconds.
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27 October 2011, 21:18
StonecreekHere is the order in which I would miss them if they were gone:
1. Nosler
2. Sierra
3. Speer
4. Hornady
5. Berger, Swift, Win, Rem, Norma, Lapua, Midway, Grafs, NF, TB, Woodleigh, etc.
17. Barnes
27 October 2011, 21:49
zimbabweI was introduced to Nosler partitions in 1952 when I was in gunsmith school. I have used them almost exclusively since then. I will admit I did try one box of Swift's but did not load the whole box as I was not impressed with them. And I did use Woodleighs for my solids for Africa. Other than those two lapses I have used Nosler Partitions for almost 60 years. I will admit to starting my new 257 Roberts on Accubonds because the dealer was out of Partitions at the time in the weight I wanted. At this late date I'm not about to change what to me is a proven bullet.
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27 October 2011, 22:24
MARK H. YOUNGNosler for me. I've used quite a few brands but if all the rest went away and Nosler was the only company producing bullets I could be very happy.
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https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 28 October 2011, 01:40
scottfromdallasquote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
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Originally posted by scottfromdallas:
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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
dumb question... would hate to have to face that choice..
It's actually a hypothetical question, not a dumb one.
okay.. a dumb HYPOTHETICAL question
Most hypothetical questions are dumb so fair enough.
28 October 2011, 03:06
AtkinsonIf I had to pick one bullet by manufacturer for all big game in all big game calibers then it would definately be the Nosler Partition and I would hope you would grace me with a few solids in case I want to go into the bush after a wounded buffalo or shoot an elephant.
I do however realize that North Forks, Woodleighs and GS Customs bullets are just as good in 99% of the cases..
One thing I'm sure of is that showing a picture of an animal killed with any rifle or caliber only means it worked that one time and good game bullets should be proven over years of successful kills under various circumstances, and the Nosler is the bullet by which all others are judged. That about sez it all.
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28 October 2011, 05:08
scottfromdallasRay,
The original question was concerning the bullet manufacturer. If you choose Nosler you get to shoot anything in Nosler's line including solids.
28 October 2011, 09:13
GeedubyaOne more time for S & G's.
I'd posted this before in the long range forum.
I'm killing with
22 cal, 60 gr. partitions, 70 gr. barnes TSX
25 cal, 100 gr ballistic tips, 100 gr. partitions, 110 gr. accubonds
6.5mm, 130 gr. Accubonds
.277, 130 gr. ballistic tips
.284, (7mm-08, 7mag, 7x57 & 7 stw) 140 gr. accubonds, 150 gr. ballistic tips
.308, 150 gr., ballistic tips and accubonds, 168 gr. ballistic tips and Barnes TSX, in the past, 180 gr. partitions.
8mm, 180 gr ballistic tips
338, 210 Gr. Barnes TSX, 225 Gr. Accubonds
350, 225 gr. accubonds, 225 gr Sierra Game Kings
366, 250 gr Accubonds
375. 260 gr Accubonds
I find that almost any rifle will shoot Ballistic tips, Partitions, not as universal, the Accubonds shoot as good as the ballistic tips and always pass through. Hole going in, hole going out. Almost always a blood trail. Almost never need a blood trail.
Excellent BC's, not as good as Match kings or berger VLD's, but not shabby.
I've had excellent luck with Triple shocks on deer, Accubonds on deer and hogs.
I've lost a couple hogs with triple shocks. But it may have been bad shot placement on my part
And for Ray A., a couple more pix. I also will note, this is only my experience over the last decade plus.
GWB
25-06, 110 gr. accubond
7mag, 150 gr. Nosler Ballistic Silvertip
30-06, 180 gr Nosler partition
325 WSM, 180 gr. Nosler Ballistic Tip
260 Rem, 120 gr. Nosler Ballistic Tip
257 Weatherby, 100 gr. partiton
30-06, 180 gr. partition
270 Win, 130 gr. ballistic tip
28 October 2011, 10:23
drewhenrytntWhile I have had fantastic results with NorthFork. I think I'll be changing my tune to Cutting Edge Bullets.
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28 October 2011, 19:58
woodelfBarnes is my go to bullet now. I usually go with the tipped.
28 October 2011, 21:14
GhubertThat's an interesting rifle Geedub, what is mate?
Is that an octagonal barrel as well?
28 October 2011, 21:54
GeedubyaAmir,
I've a longstanding love affair with single shot rifles. That particular rifle is a Browning Hi-Wall chambered in 30-06. Yes, octagonal barrel, 28" in length. Gets just about 300 win mag velocity with 180 gr partitions.
The Browning B-78 and 1885 High walls are copies of the Winchester 1885.
Another Browning Hi-Wall, 454 Casull
Here is one more, a Winchester 1885 Highwall chambered in 270 WSM.
Typical accuracy is an inch or better with my handloads. However, who would think you could get this kind of accuracy out of a straight wall pistol cartridge at 100 yds.
Best
GWB
28 October 2011, 21:55
308SakoHunting only, Nosler without hesitation...
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28 October 2011, 22:08
Ghubertquote:
Originally posted by Geedubya:
Amir,
I've a longstanding love affair with single shot rifles. That particular rifle is a Browning Hi-Wall chambered in 30-06. Yes, octagonal barrel, 28" in length. Gets just about 300 win mag velocity with 180 gr partitions.
The Browning B-78 and 1885 High walls are copies of the Winchester 1885.
Another Browning Hi-Wall, 454 Casull
Here is one more, a Winchester 1885 Highwall chambered in 270 WSM.
Typical accuracy is an inch or better with my handloads. However, who would think you could get this kind of accuracy out of a straight wall pistol cartridge at 100 yds.
Best
GWB
Very nice Glen, very nice indeed.
I'll have to see these in person one day you know, are you any closer to being able to getting out here for that hunt I promised you?
Best,
Amir
28 October 2011, 23:33
scubaproquote:
Originally posted by Arild Iversen:
Woodleigh, they have exellent bullets in the calibers I use.
Me too - after I used Nosler BT & PT for a long time, I am absolutely fascinated of the Woodleighs... Absolutely Perfect!
29 October 2011, 06:23
Bigbird34If I had to pick one bullet,and only one,I'd have to stay with Sierra,these bullets have always done what I have asked of them,and so have other manufacturers,but I'm loyal to Sierras ....BB34
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29 October 2011, 06:51
ColeKquote:
Nosler Partition or Accubond
+1
Load Partition and be Happy
, I am.
29 October 2011, 10:24
KabluewyI normally don't use factory loads, but sometimes the situation calls for it. So, I bought some Nosler 165 gr ABs in 308 to use for some Texas hog hunting. I expected good results, but even with that I was surprised. That is the most accurate factory ammo I have ever shot, and it's just a shame how easy it makes whacking hogs at any reasonalble range. Somehow I feel there should be a challange in that. I head shot a piglet at 150 yds with confidence. I like the Accubonds, but I'll hedge a little about saying I would use them exclusively since I'm using a few Barnes TSX and TTSX, which have impressed me greatly.
I just can't decide which I like better. I think it depends on the game. For deer and hogs, no doubt, Accubonds are way better than necessary.
If I had to pick one for the 375 or 458, I think it would be a Barnes for those calibers, simply because of the probability of 100% weight retained. I think it matters for the big bores, and not so much for the use which I would ask of the smaller calibers.
However, last year I tried some Barnes 168gr TTSX bullets in my old standby, a FN 30-06, and quickly dedicated that rifle to shooting the 168gr TTSX exclusively. I havent shot game with it yet, but the accuracy was so good that I just can't see any need in further load development for that rifle.
I have tried woodleighs in three calibers, 30, 35 & 375, and I just can't get the accuracy out of them. They are Ok, but not great. I'm sure they will hold together alright, and I'll use them over time. I have some loaded for my 35 Whelen now, and plan on useing them soon, but frankly every other bullet I've tried in that rifle has been more accurate, including swift, speer, hornady, and nosler. I'm not talking about much difference, just noticable.
KB
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29 October 2011, 18:01
sbhooperOverall, I would have to say Hornady as I have shot tons of them over the years. It is real hard to beat Nosler, though. My buddy also cannot get the Woodleighs to shoot well.
I think this day and age, any manufacturer would work fine if all others went away. I don't think there are really any bad bullet makers.
29 October 2011, 18:22
dogcatquote:
Originally posted by scottfromdallas:
to hunt the rest of your life with, which one would you choose?
I've tried many different brands of bullets but I seem to migrate towards Noslers and Speers. If I had to choose it would easily be the Nosler line. I think it's a complete line up with Ballistic Tip, Accubond, Partition and E-Tip. It's a family owned business that really cares about what hunters think. With their bullet line, I would feel confident I could hunt anything in the world.
What say you?
Barnes. I have tried a bunch adn they are all good but my rifles like triple shocks.
31 October 2011, 07:01
FC363Nosler for sure. BT's and Accubonds.
31 October 2011, 17:32
TEUTONICTIG BULLETS FROM BRENNEKE,OLD DESIGN BUT STILL PERFECT
01 November 2011, 06:18
Bwana NderoboSwift for me, thank you. Scirocco and A-Frames.
01 November 2011, 22:30
temmiNosler
AND
Speer
Best I can do
04 November 2011, 20:07
WstrnhuntrTough call for me. I like Speer and Hornady about the same. But I am especialy fond of speer Mag Tips, unfortunatly they seem to be going by the wayside. Those bullets are diamonds in the ruff.. Im not too sure about their new line up yet but Im sure the grand slams are excellent.
Hornady interlocks just plain work and I like that they havent fallen into the revamp and inflate the cost syndrome yet.
Nosler makes an excellent product, but I personaly find them too cost prohibitive to do a lot of shooting with. Id rather go with one bullet that is affordable enough to shoot a LOT and yet performs well on game.. That is pretty much the definition of Hornady IMO. Same could be said for Remington core locts, but they dont have the variety of the Hornadys.
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04 November 2011, 23:23
Larry GibsonHornady.....hands down.
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05 November 2011, 06:49
scottfromdallasquote:
Originally posted by Wstrnhuntr:
But I am especialy fond of speer Mag Tips, unfortunatly they seem to be going by the wayside. Those bullets are diamonds in the ruff..
I recently picked 3 boxes of 7mm 160 MAGTIPS for $12 a box on Midway. I think they found some old stock and liquidated them. They didn't last long. I haven't worked up any loads for them yet.
13 November 2011, 06:02
Mark1911Accubonds in the .338, TSX in the '06.
I tried and tried to get TSXs to shoot in my .338. 1.5 to 2.5" groups were the norm. Tried 250 Accubonds and Gamekings and the groups shrank to about 1" or less.
Had the same trouble with my '06 and 180 TSXs using IMR4350. Groups improved tremendously when I switched to 4064.
Just curious, anyone else had trouble getting better than mediocre accuracy with TSX?
13 November 2011, 18:07
Cary HowardI prefer Berger bullets. They shoot great out of every gun I own.
17 November 2011, 11:53
cal30 1906If they were provided to mee free it would be Partitions.
If you are going to make me buy mine Im going to shoot the plain old Power points and cor-lokt , although I have shot many Hornadys and had many picture perfect mushrooms when recovered.
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17 November 2011, 12:34
boom stickPeople usually like the opinions of good experienced PHs because they have seen it all and have to put their lives on the line frequently and need to rely on their tools of the trade. With no monetary reward or sales BS I think this recent response from a PH says it all for me that CEB is number one with #2 slot being North Fork Bullets.
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Dear Sam:
I’m here in our camp in Rifa along the banks of the Zambezi River, reflecting on my hunts of the past season. I appreciate the cartridges you sent over loaded with the #13 solids and the Non-Con bullets. Their performance was truly remarkable.
The calibers that were used on my hunts included the .577 Nitro Express, .416 Remington Mag, and the .300 Jarrett.
I personally used my .577 to take down a charging hippo, a fleeing wounded Cape buffalo, and a backup shot on a trophy bull elephant. The bullets devastating and immediate shock and stopping power on the animals was as dramatic as I’ve witnessed in my 17 year professional hunting career. In all three cases, the animals hit the ground within seconds. The charging hippo plowed into the ground at my feet, the elephant dropped where it stood, and the fleeing Cape buffalo received a “Texas heart shot” and went down within 10-15 yards. I recovered the bullet from the buffalo under the hide of the chest. The bullet had blown through 5 feet of muscle, gut, and bone.
Most recently, my friend Doug Stein and I hunted Cape buffalo and various species of plains game. Doug was using the Non-Con bullet in his model 70Winchester in .416 Remington mag. We ambushed a large mature buffalo after a brief stalk and Doug placed a shot behind the shoulder from approximately 35 yards. The stunning and swift shock on the buffalo’s system had him stumbling within a split second. The wounded buff tried to run with the other buffalo, however, he pulled up within 30 yards allowing Doug the time to place a 2nd shot behind the opposite shoulder. The 2nd shot literally swept the buffalo off his feet. I can tell you the geyser of blood rising from the wound was like none I have seen. Without being too graphic and over descriptive, I tell you this to properly describe the extraordinary amount of instantaneous hemorrhaging of the wound channel. Upon inspection of the buff’s vitals, I was amazed at the severity of the bullet wound including the multiple secondary wound channels from the bullet petals. No long walk required to follow up this buff!
Additionally, I was able to witness the .30 caliber Non-Con bullets used on a variety of other plains game species from Doug’s trusty .300 Jarrett. Without exception, each animal dropped in its tracks. The .30 caliber bullets included the plastic tip to help stabilize the bullets on longer shots over 200+ yards. The bullets performed with remarkable and consistent accuracy on each shot.
I plan to continue using these bullets in my rifle on all my future hunts. Thanks again for introducing me to these wonderful bullets.
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17 November 2011, 17:48
tiggertateHmmm...I've got boxes of most of them and like several of them. I plan on trying the CEB soon but haven't yet so can't speak to it.
But so far (and as much as I like custom bullets) I'd have to say that if limited to only one brand I'd probably stick with Remington bulk bullets. I'm not particularly cheap in that regard, but for for me they have worked on game for so long and so well that I'm hard pressed to turn them down. If I ever move to Africa I'll reconsider.
But fortunately we don't have to make that decision, eh?
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17 November 2011, 18:52
Tom SNOSLER for me
22 November 2011, 11:13
Bill BradyBarnes for almost every thing,224/243/6.5mm/270/7mm/8mm/338/9.3mm/458 Sierra for 204.
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25 November 2011, 08:36
AntlersThat's easy - Nosler.
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01 December 2011, 00:12
AtkinsonNosler Partitions...but I'd have to have some solids from GS Customs for elephant. If that is not allowable then I would have to say the North Fork cup point, it would be a little bit of a trade off but it works on everything well enough to get by..
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01 December 2011, 00:35
PhatmanMy casting pot doesn't count does it???
Nosler if I'm getting serious.
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01 December 2011, 09:09
manti.hunterNoslers. I've used Partitions for close to 40 years, but am now growing fond of Accubonds, regardless of caliber.
02 December 2011, 12:31
2ndtimerNosler, for me, too. Love the Accubonds and the Ballistic Tips, miss the old Solid Bases, too. Hornady is probably my second choice, but Nosler definitely No. 1. The only exception being my 6.5x55 Howa. It definitely prefers the Hornady 129 and 140 gr Spire Points to anything else.
Bullets are pretty worthless. All they do is hang around waiting to get loaded.
