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I think a more accurate analogy is the 9,3x62 is to the .375H&H is what the 7x57 & 8x57 are to the .30'06 - the design brief of both the .375 & '06 was to copy and surpass the ballistics of the earlier rounds. It took an influx of cheap Tikka T3's and bulk importation of PPU ammo by one of our dealers trying to counter shortfalls in ammo supply (thanks to most US manufacturers selling too much at home to export to Australia), before the 9,3x62 became a "known" cartridge in Australia - only about 100 years after its invention... Formerly Gun Barrel Ecologist | |||
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I have ammo at home. I have taken it on my Nebraska hunting trip with no ammo as I plan to drop it on the return with Subsailor74 to reload some ammo and just play with it. I just wanted to buy a box to shoot in Kansas at a friend's farm. Mike | |||
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I was at a store not long ago and asked the aged fellow behind the counter if they had any. He said, “That new? Never heard of it.” | |||
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when i ordered my 550 FS, when the gunsmith saw the caliber, he said "WHY??" | |||
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Recently I picked up my new CZ 550 fs. One of the guys at the store wanted to look at it. After handling it he asked what caliber it was in. I said 9.3x62mm. He gave me a blank stare and walked away. Actually I love that, especially since there are row upon row of AR's & AK's on the racks. Anything to put the gunshop "experts" off their game is a plus in my opinion. Roger ___________________________ I'm a trophy hunter - until something better comes along. *we band of 45-70ers* | |||
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Funny you should mention two rifles in these calibers. I happen to have that. The 404 Jeffery was completely made by Duane Wiebe on a Mauser Argentine 1909 and the 9.3X62 was rebarreled by Duane Wiebe on a Mauser K98, the H&H style take-down was done by Patrick Brunet in France and the stock was done by Leon Grifnee in Belgium (brother of famed master engraver Philippe Grifnee of Holland & Holland). There was a thread on this: http://forums.accuratereloadin...141011081#7141011081 _________________________________ AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim. | |||
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Wink those are real classic rifles! Please see my comment and question on that thread. Thanks for sharing "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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Don't know what one is to the other, but I know you can't tell the difference in how the kill on Cape buffalo and large plainsgame between a 9.3x62 and a .375 all things equal.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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The 9.3x62 is my favorite calibre. Killed a stack of game for the best part of twenty years with it and a combination of 286grn Woodleighs in Round nose softs and FMJs along with Swift A Frams for the first shot on Buffalo | |||
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Hook you can buy 9.3x62 PPU brass from Midway and grafs for about $56.00 per hundred, about the same as 30-06 from PPU..and its the best brass Ive ever used... Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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That's true, Ray. However, I did a quick calculation and found that PPU brass costs about 50 cents each, PPU 285 gr bullets about 40 cents each, and powder and primer about a quarter per round. That makes a reload cost around a $1.15 each assuming no hazmat for the primers and powder. Since I have the powder and primers in my stash, $1.15/ea. would be about right. I could buy the PPU ammo for $1.25/ea and not have to load them. I seldom use factory ammo, but kinda wanted to see how this boomer would shoot factory so as to have a benchmark to measure my reloads against later. The factory PPU stuff shoots very well, but I'm still looking forward to what it will do with some reloads. | |||
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Hook, I wouldn't know, I don't shoot factory ammo of any kind very much, but PPU Brass is $56. per hundred for the 9.3x62 and its $54 per hundred for 30-06..It lasts forever and is the cheapest of all the components available today...As to factory loaded 9.3x62 its a little anemic IMO, and does not do the caliber justice.. The 9.3x62 is not a miracle drug, its just another caliber and its a dandy, is it better than the .375 no its not but it recoils considerably less and kills as well up to a couple of hundred yards, maybe more..The bottom line is its a grand caliber and I see no reason for comparison, comparison threads lead to tons of BS, over inflated statements, and ballistic bull shit. Its better than the 06 at 300 yards, and not quit as good as a .375 and won't shoot as flat as a .338, but it was never ment to do these things, it will hammer a Cape buffalo at 100 yards, and elephant at 50 yards and an elk at 300 yards, that's enough for me. If I had to pick one caliber for elk, bear, moose it would probably be the .338 Win, For elephant a 404, but Ive always been a big 9.3x62 fan and always will be and its served me well. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Nosler brass is on sale now for 14.95 per 25. Get it while you can (if you want). | |||
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Ray, your hunting experiences and types of game sought far overshadow mine. I'm just a Southern whitetail hunter that enjoys playing around with different rifles and different calibers. My goal is to enjoy and use most everything out there, leaning heavily towards the older, more 'storied' examples. I have no 'need' for a 9.3, just an itch to kill a buck with one. The one I got, a Husky, is a dandy! The PPU ammo is, as you noted, somewhat underpowered for most 9.3X62 applications, but should smack a whitetail adequately. If I were going to Africa or chasing bigger game, I would have bought components and loaded the ammo up to full power. In fact, I traded for some premium bullets with a friend that had sold his 9.3, so my second load in these PPU cases will be full strength.....not that I need that, but just cause I can! | |||
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Well that makes since, enjoy your 9.3x62, your headed down the right road! Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Rather go 375 H&H | |||
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I agree...while the 9,3x62 is a good round and can be loaded this or that way, the .375H&H still has more power...and can be loaded and tweaked by 350 or 380 grainers for DG.. I shot a bull elephant 19.december this year at night with a borrowed .375H&H with an Aimpoint (cant see those open sights on my double at night), an old banged up rifle from 30 plus years use in Africa under rather dramatic circumstanses...with 300 grain Rhino brass solids. Oh yes, the old .375H&H delivers..the ele bit the dust.. | |||
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9.3 has probably a third less recoil, other than less recoil, the only other reason to choose 9.3 over the H&H is one more round in magazine. Can't use 366 for parts of Africa anyway. | |||
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I’d rather have a 9,3 than a .375. The 370 Federal should have been 9,5x66. That would have been something. | |||
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As far as I can tell on shooting game both PG and DG, the 9.3x62 kills as good as a .375 H&H off paper and on animals...I like them both, and hunt with them with the same confidence. If I need more then I'll go to the 416 Rem or 404..but its a personal choice, make your choice and hopefully enjoy the results.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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