For the most part .I like the classic type rifle. Winchester bolts n levers savage 99s custom Springfield and maauser 98s.
But today I looked at a new 700 man rifle. This one was a 280. I been thinking about a 270 . I liked this rifle. Bell n Carlson stock 22 inch tube. Ballace was good. With a good scope I bet it would shoot just dandy. I li8me the all weather model 70 bu7t I don't care for food used barrels .
If I catch a busy streak on the road and get a couple fat checks. I just might get one...tj3006

I have one and like it very much. The barrel is so thin that it needs to be shot slowly at the range to get the best groups but it is a joy to carry and shoot.

Thanks seamaster what caliber is yours chambered in ?

For many years I had a wood stocked one in 270. It was extremely accurate and brought home a lot of game for me (elk, prong horn, mule deer).

Mine is chambered in .270 Win. I wanted it in a .280 but could not find one at the time.

Mine is the KSS in .300 Win. Just over 8#s all dressed up and, given bbl cooling interval, is sub-MOA as far out as I'd shoot something.

Owned one in .375 H&H. They were using the same bbl profile. Which means it kicked the snot out of me and I sold it. Not b/c it couldn't shoot, though.

My dad had one in 257rob nice rifle nephew has it now.

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Originally posted by Seamaster:
I have one and like it very much. The barrel is so thin that it needs to be shot slowly at the range to get the best groups but it is a joy to carry and shoot.

Tight groups are required for target matches, but game animals fall due to bullets through the clock works, and one well placed shot can usually do the job. That's why where a hunting rifle places its first shot, with a cold barrel, is most important. I'm not a huge fan of lightweight wispy barrelled rifles, but if such a rifle places that first cold shot consistently, then it's a hunting rifle I wouldn't hesitate to to use. I find that lightweights are less forgiving to changes in shooting technique. One usually has to be pretty consistent in how one shoots with these rifles. I've never shot a Rem mountain rifle, but I had the opportunity to play with a kimber Montana in 308. It was a 1.5" 5 shot group shooter, but the first two shots would usually fall within .5" to .75". If I didn't hold the the rifle consistently, accuracy went all to heck. That was with a 9oz 4x Leupold.

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Originally posted by tjroberts:
For the most part .I like the classic type rifle. Winchester bolts n levers savage 99s custom Springfield and maauser 98s.
But today I looked at a new 700 man rifle. This one was a 280. I been thinking about a 270 . I liked this rifle. Bell n Carlson stock 22 inch tube. Ballace was good. With a good scope I bet it would shoot just dandy. I li8me the all weather model 70 bu7t I don't care for food used barrels .
If I catch a busy streak on the road and get a couple fat checks. I just might get one...tj3006

tj: your posts would be a lot easier to read if you would proof read them

I bought one the first year they came out. In .280. Walnut stock with a good bit of figure. One of the prettiest rifles I've owned. With a 150gr bullet, it killed like the Hammer of Thor on antelope and mulies. However, from the bench, it was a 1.5-2" shooter despite any of the "tricks" I tried. It was deadly, nimble, and a dream to carry but I couldn't handle those 2" groups and so I sent it down the road.

You mean to say that Rem m700's aren't the most accurate out of the box? In my experience they have been about as accurate as any other brand. Some are good, some merely OK. I do generally like what Remington does with their stocks though.

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Originally posted by ColoradoMatt:
Tight groups are required for target matches, but game animals fall due to bullets through the clock works, and one well placed shot can usually do the job. That's why where a hunting rifle places its first shot, with a cold barrel, is most important. I'm not a huge fan of lightweight wispy barrelled rifles, but if such a rifle places that first cold shot consistently, then it's a hunting rifle I wouldn't hesitate to to use. I find that lightweights are less forgiving to changes in shooting technique. One usually has to be pretty consistent in how one shoots with these rifles.

Wisdom here. My 700KSS is not my most accurate .300, but it has the singular virtue of placing the first shot - always - to exact zero point. Would also add, this KSS has not proven finicky about how rested, as I have had to satisfy guides in different venues using different rests. Always the same, one shot followed by "guess we're done here". The rifle is brutal on brass but I can easily live with disposing once-fired empties.

I really like the wood stocked rifle as they come right out of the box..Feel good..

I might be interested in a plastic stocked,Stainless Steel, Mountain Rifle, I think they come that way now, not sure..It would be handy for days like today in Idaho, with a foot of new snow on the ground..Ive been in some deep snow during elk season in the higher reaches of Idaho..Its hard on rifles..I have never has much use for such a rifle but thinking there may be a place for one in my gun cabinet.

I have a walnut stocked .243 that is a very good shooter, a .308 walnut that is an OK shooter that I have not worked with a whole lot and a stainless synthetic in .280 that's shoots good but not up with the .243 as yet but it is still a work in progress. I love the feel of these rifles.

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Originally posted by tjroberts:I don't care for food used barrels .tj3006

I'm curious about the food used barrels.

I have one of the early KS Mountain Rifles for their custom shop. It's most likely the only left handed KS Mountain rifle in existence, factory chambered in 300 H&H. I asked if they would do that when I ordered the rifle and they said they would.

This rifle is the most consistent shot to shot, rifle I've ever owned as well as one of the most accurate. It doesn't seem to matter whether it's a cold bore or hot, it doesn't vary POI at all. The only time it moves POI (slightly) is when its been freshly cleaned. A couple of fouling shots and it's back to normal again.

I have to 700DM Mountain Rifle in 280. 280 is one of my favorite calibers. Perfect for about anything but grizzly bears IMHO.
The rifle is a decent shooter with handloads..about an inch if I do my job. That's good enough for me but I never really took the time to tweek a load for it after hitting on that one. It might do better.
Seamaster is right, the groups do open up when that thin barrel gets hot, which it does rather quickly.
Light, fun gun to carry and it's accounted for quite a few deer.

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Originally posted by tjroberts:
For the most part .I like the classic type rifle. Winchester bolts n levers savage 99s custom Springfield and maauser 98s.
But today I looked at a new 700 man rifle. This one was a 280. I been thinking about a 270 . I liked this rifle. Bell n Carlson stock 22 inch tube. Ballace was good. With a good scope I bet it would shoot just dandy. I li8me the all weather model 70 bu7t I don't care for food used barrels .
If I catch a busy streak on the road and get a couple fat checks. I just might get one...tj3006

tj: your posts would be a lot easier to read if you would proof read them

The virtues of using a smartphone to post internet material...

I ment to say fluted barrels
My new smart fin is smarter than I am.so far.I will catch up.

I bought a Rem Mountain rifle in 280 about 25 years ago. It was beautiful, but shots would string out over 8" with a 5-shot group. Full action bedded, barrel floated, then barrel bedded. No help. Traded it for an factory enhanced Colt 1911. Other than shooting my 458 Lott, the mountain rifle kicked harder than all others I owned. Never took it hunting, don't miss it.

I have a 700 Mtn Ti in .270 with Bell & Carson stock. I might as well sell all my rifles cuz it's the only one I use. Best rifle for carrying @ 5+lbs.
Shoots 1 to 2" groups off the bench. In the field it has always been 1 shot 1 kill with Hornady SST 140 gr. Never needed a follow up.
The Timmey trigger I installed really is the cat's meow.
Anybody wanna buy an Weatherby Accumark in 30-378

I have early Rem mountain rifles, one in 270 a second in 280 and my son has one in 3006. They are all fine examples of when Remington made quality. The 270 shoots less than one inch, ( 4 shot groups) the 280 about 1 and 1/8 and the 3006 about 11/2. Although I really like them both my son and I actually prefer the standard weight because to us the mountain rifles are muzzle light.

Its all mute now.
I bought a lightweight Huskvarna.270 ...tj3006

I had a 700 Mt. rifle in 30-06. Shooting 168 gr. TSX it would shoot 3 shots into an inch but then it would open up quite a bit and that skinny barrel would heat up something fierce! Great hunting rifle, in a moment of weakness I gave it to my youngest son for a Christmas present when he first got married 5 years ago. He had always borrowed some of my lesser rifles prior to that. Dang if he hasn't shot more animals with it than I ever did! I tried to talk him into giving it back for another rifle of mine but he won't do it. Oh well, he's set for life with that rifle in that caliber there isn't anything he can't take on this continent. Great father wouldn't you say, ha ha!

I had one of the very early ones with the floorplate instead of the later DBM. It was in 7mm Mauser, with wood that looked like a Dakota in their heyday. I sold it because ?????????????