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Does that mean your snide remark is a superior snide remark?
Get back to you? Why? It is only a snide remark.

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I don't have a dog in this fight but you folks, especially the ones making the snide remarks, that are not well practiced in shooting offhand, load up 10 rounds using whatever technique you want and shoot them offhand at 100 yards. And then get back to me. It ain't as easy as it seems when all you're shooting is your keyboard.
Does everybody know what a hasty sling is?
 
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Most of us shot smaller groups before there were keyboards. BTW most of us started shooting 22s before you were loading your diaper.

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I have shot smaller groups off hand at 300 yards without a sling than shootaway does at 100 yards. Everyone here has tried ti help him but he doesn't want to improve - he just wants the attention.

That's all he gets now is attention.

you shot them with your keyboard
 
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Now that was tacky.


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Well, let's see, I got my first computer in 1978 and I shot my first gun in 1960... Nope didn't have a keyboard when I started shooting. I didn't even have the keyboard when I shot my first sub MOA group with my 3006.

I know that shootaway thinks he is a good shot because he always has a reason for his inaccuracy. He likes to blame his rifle or his loads instead of trying to actually develop good shooting technique.


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My whole point had nothing to do with Shootaway. It was the simple observation that shooting offhand is not easy. And those that have practiced enough to be good at it will agree.


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New definition:
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My whole point had nothing to do with Shootaway. It was the simple observation that shooting offhand is not easy. And those that have practiced enough to be good at it will agree.


wasbeeman,
You are right! Shooting off hand is difficult even when you seek and accept guidance. It is an impossible task if you don't listen to shooters who have done it and just blast 40 -50 rounds at a target and don't make the effort to confront your mistakes.

I am currently involved in smallbore silhouette shooting. You may know that in this competition we shoot off-hand with no slings or support allowed. We start with chickens at 20 yards, pigs at 40 yards, turkeys at 60 yards and rams at 80 yards. All targets are scaled 1/5 size which make the 60 yard turkeys a 2" target and the rams a tad longer but shorter in height.
I have shot in Hunter's Pistol before so I am not new to shooting off hand with pistols or rifles. I tried a couple of times to help our other guest here and got flack over it. He just refuses to accept that he is doing anything wrong. He does keep putting shot patterns down range and posting them here. I guess I should just ignore his threads all together because it serves no purpose to view them except the humor.


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Originally posted by wasbeeman:
My whole point had nothing to do with Shootaway. It was the simple observation that shooting offhand is not easy. And those that have practiced enough to be good at it will agree.


wasbeeman,
You are right! Shooting off hand is difficult even when you seek and accept guidance. It is an impossible task if you don't listen to shooters who have done it and just blast 40 -50 rounds at a target and don't make the effort to confront your mistakes.

I am currently involved in smallbore silhouette shooting. You may know that in this competition we shoot off-hand with no slings or support allowed. We start with chickens at 20 yards, pigs at 40 yards, turkeys at 60 yards and rams at 80 yards. All targets are scaled 1/5 size which make the 60 yard turkeys a 2" target and the rams a tad longer but shorter in height.
I have shot in Hunter's Pistol before so I am not new to shooting off hand with pistols or rifles. I tried a couple of times to help our other guest here and got flack over it. He just refuses to accept that he is doing anything wrong. He does keep putting shot patterns down range and posting them here. I guess I should just ignore his threads all together because it serves no purpose to view them except the humor.
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you jerk
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Inappropriate language for a Shooting Ballerina.
 
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We know that he can shoot at least a MOC.

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One I shot today.We are having below normal temperatures for this time of year.It was minus 15 celsius and I by the time I got to shoot there was barely any light left.Still I am proud of this target.I checked the rifles accuracy off the bench on another target and it did not do too well-shooting a 3 to 4 inch 4 shot group.I had on alot of clothes -a wind shell which was a too tight and I could really feel the fatigue in holding up the heavy Palma.
[URL= ]100yd offhand target[/URL]
 
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Wow. That is impressive.

I just got back in from shooting off my back deck. I had many of the same handicaps working against me: the temperature here is currently -29C, but the wind is thankfully (and uncharacteristically) almost nonexistent. I was shooting a plain-Jane Browning T-bolt .22 sporter, and my target was a 5-inch steel plate hanging one hundred yards from the deck. I was of course dressed warmly, but I made sure the clothing actually fit me. The gun wasn't tiring to hold, as it is quite a light rifle. Not a tack-driver, but accurate enough. However, the chickadees at the bird-feeder were setting up a constant, infernal racket that was very distracting. I was noticing more of a distortion from the Coriolis Effect than I usually do, and both cars were parked a bit closer to the house than they typically are...I think this may have caused localized magnetic-field interference, which of course could be felt in my tooth fillings. My two dogs were running around the yard, and I am convinced that this was inducing a low-level vibration in the structure of the deck...I'm sure I could feel it. I also suspect that my closest neighbours, whose house is about a kilometer from mine, are experiencing some sort of marital discord, and this was having a negative impact on the overall "vibe" in the area, despite my strenuous efforts to landscape my yard following the principles of Feng Shui. Overall, there were a lot of factors in play. I still rang the gong, or at least clinked it, 35 times out of 40.

Seriously, how can you post photos like that? It's like watching a train wreck, and then listening to the conductor blame everybody else. Even the "ignore" option only hides your posts when I'm logged in to the website...when you post on a thread to which I am subscribed, my g-mail displays the post in all its insane glory. There is no escape!
 
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shootaway,

Comparing your 1st target on thread I to your last taget above, Its obvious your not improving very fast. You need to do some self searching and try thinking out-of-the-box! With as many targets as you have, you should at least be off the "absolute gibberish" level by now.

Something must be holding you back.

How about trying bigger bullets?! Bigger bullets could make a world of difference! I'd suggest moving up to a 460 Wby. It will make bigger holes and judging from your group size, the added recoil may actually help (sure can't hurt much).

Yeah - Bigger bullets that may be it.
shootaway you got to try some bigger bullets


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Pretend your target is a cow.
 
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Wow. That is impressive.

I just got back in from shooting off my back deck. I had many of the same handicaps working against me: the temperature here is currently -29C, but the wind is thankfully (and uncharacteristically) almost nonexistent. I was shooting a plain-Jane Browning T-bolt .22 sporter, and my target was a 5-inch steel plate hanging one hundred yards from the deck. I was of course dressed warmly, but I made sure the clothing actually fit me. The gun wasn't tiring to hold, as it is quite a light rifle. Not a tack-driver, but accurate enough. However, the chickadees at the bird-feeder were setting up a constant, infernal racket that was very distracting. I was noticing more of a distortion from the Coriolis Effect than I usually do, and both cars were parked a bit closer to the house than they typically are...I think this may have caused localized magnetic-field interference, which of course could be felt in my tooth fillings. My two dogs were running around the yard, and I am convinced that this was inducing a low-level vibration in the structure of the deck...I'm sure I could feel it. I also suspect that my closest neighbours, whose house is about a kilometer from mine, are experiencing some sort of marital discord, and this was having a negative impact on the overall "vibe" in the area, despite my strenuous efforts to landscape my yard following the principles of Feng Shui. Overall, there were a lot of factors in play. I still rang the gong, or at least clinked it, 35 times out of 40.

Seriously, how can you post photos like that? It's like watching a train wreck, and then listening to the conductor blame everybody else. Even the "ignore" option only hides your posts when I'm logged in to the website...when you post on a thread to which I am subscribed, my g-mail displays the post in all its insane glory. There is no escape!


These kinds of posts make me feel inadequate.

Inadequate because I just don't think I have what it takes to pen that kind of imaginative and creative verse.

Kudos JWM.

Shootaway, you never mind these naysayers! I can feel your passion and perseverance right thru the computer screen and I know in my heart of hearts your dedication to the pursuit of the purest form of ballet accurate shooting will triumph! Stay strong Brother!
 
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There is absolutely nothing to be learned from these threads, but they are incredibly entertaining.


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shootaway,

Comparing your 1st target on thread I to your last taget above, Its obvious your not improving very fast. You need to do some self searching and try thinking out-of-the-box! With as many targets as you have, you should at least be off the "absolute gibberish" level by now.

Something must be holding you back.

How about trying bigger bullets?! Bigger bullets could make a world of difference! I'd suggest moving up to a 460 Wby. It will make bigger holes and judging from your group size, the added recoil may actually help (sure can't hurt much).

Yeah - Bigger bullets that may be it.
shootaway you got to try some bigger bullets

I had greater visiblity when I shot the first target.I am going to resize my cases today.I felt some resistance opening the bolt.I will see if it brings down the group size.
 
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I just got back in from shooting off my back deck. I had many of the same handicaps working against me: the temperature here is currently -29C, but the wind is thankfully (and uncharacteristically) almost nonexistent. I was shooting a plain-Jane Browning T-bolt .22 sporter, and my target was a 5-inch steel plate hanging one hundred yards from the deck. I was of course dressed warmly, but I made sure the clothing actually fit me. The gun wasn't tiring to hold, as it is quite a light rifle. Not a tack-driver, but accurate enough. However, the chickadees at the bird-feeder were setting up a constant, infernal racket that was very distracting. I was noticing more of a distortion from the Coriolis Effect than I usually do, and both cars were parked a bit closer to the house than they typically are...I think this may have caused localized magnetic-field interference, which of course could be felt in my tooth fillings. My two dogs were running around the yard, and I am convinced that this was inducing a low-level vibration in the structure of the deck...I'm sure I could feel it. I also suspect that my closest neighbours, whose house is about a kilometer from mine, are experiencing some sort of marital discord, and this was having a negative impact on the overall "vibe" in the area, despite my strenuous efforts to landscape my yard following the principles of Feng Shui. Overall, there were a lot of factors in play. I still rang the gong, or at least clinked it, 35 times out of 40.



Well done! I admire creative, nicely done prose. Who says there is nothing of redeeming value on these threads? Thank you for a good morning chuckle.


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Originally posted by jwm:
Wow. That is impressive.

I just got back in from shooting off my back deck. I had many of the same handicaps working against me: the temperature here is currently -29C, but the wind is thankfully (and uncharacteristically) almost nonexistent. I was shooting a plain-Jane Browning T-bolt .22 sporter, and my target was a 5-inch steel plate hanging one hundred yards from the deck. I was of course dressed warmly, but I made sure the clothing actually fit me. The gun wasn't tiring to hold, as it is quite a light rifle. Not a tack-driver, but accurate enough. However, the chickadees at the bird-feeder were setting up a constant, infernal racket that was very distracting. I was noticing more of a distortion from the Coriolis Effect than I usually do, and both cars were parked a bit closer to the house than they typically are...I think this may have caused localized magnetic-field interference, which of course could be felt in my tooth fillings. My two dogs were running around the yard, and I am convinced that this was inducing a low-level vibration in the structure of the deck...I'm sure I could feel it. I also suspect that my closest neighbours, whose house is about a kilometer from mine, are experiencing some sort of marital discord, and this was having a negative impact on the overall "vibe" in the area, despite my strenuous efforts to landscape my yard following the principles of Feng Shui. Overall, there were a lot of factors in play. I still rang the gong, or at least clinked it, 35 times out of 40.

Seriously, how can you post photos like that? It's like watching a train wreck, and then listening to the conductor blame everybody else. Even the "ignore" option only hides your posts when I'm logged in to the website...when you post on a thread to which I am subscribed, my g-mail displays the post in all its insane glory. There is no escape!
 
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Shot this one today during a snowstorm! Got there late but had the place to myself.If I get there early for once and the sun is out and the target is lit,who knows how well I could do?
[URL= ]got dark and was snowy[/URL]
[URL= ]100yds offhand open sights[/URL]
 
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Face it, George. You are with us over-the-hill age guys who need a rest to shoot well. Do the game a favor and adjust to how eyes, muscle and so on have worn down. Beer doesn't help either. FWIW.


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Face it, George. You are with us over-the-hill age guys who need a rest to shoot well. Do the game a favor and adjust to how eyes, muscle and so on have worn down. Beer doesn't help either. FWIW.
I am not like you....keep on dreaming.Soon they will all be in the orange.
 
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To quote Nancy Pelosi, "embrace the suck."


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Face it, George. You are with us over-the-hill age guys who need a rest to shoot well. Do the game a favor and adjust to how eyes, muscle and so on have worn down. Beer doesn't help either. FWIW.


A Haiku for Shootaway:

celebrate!

you are younger now

than you will ever be
 
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Face it, George. You are with us over-the-hill age guys who need a rest to shoot well. Do the game a favor and adjust to how eyes, muscle and so on have worn down. Beer doesn't help either. FWIW.


A Haiku for Shootaway:

celebrate!

you are younger now

than you will ever be

That is quite easy to understand.This is true and I am all for celebration!
 
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I think of my self as a celebration type person-
somebody who looks for such occasions.
 
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You are on your own. (You have a relative at the campfire named bcd.) Glad we aren't alike...


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by shootaway:
Shot this one today during a snowstorm! Got there late but had the place to myself.If I get there early for once and the sun is out and the target is lit,who knows how well I could do?
[URL= ]got dark and was snowy[/URL]


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Shot this target today.A little spread to the right because of initial bad sight picture-then settled.
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How can you tell where each bullet went? I counted 34 holes with a maximum spread of 8". You need to change the target once in awhile to tell what went where.
 
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Beautiful. You're all set for turkey season.

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How can you tell where each bullet went? I counted 34 holes with a maximum spread of 8". You need to change the target once in awhile to tell what went where.

I can tell where each bullet went from experience.
 
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Just living up to your rep I guess...
 
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shot this one today-I had less light than last time
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Predictable accuracy II



1. We can now predict that you are not accurate.

2. Actually thats not too bad for 200 yds -you shot it at 25 yds, yes?


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he has at least learned to not show the whole target
 
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