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What bore dia. bullets can you shoot in this fine old caliber and who makes bullets for it. A friend of mine has a beautiful old Mauser in this caliber. He would like to shoot it. I have dies and load data but no bore dia. Will .358 bullets work? I see 9mm pistol bullets are .355 or .356 but ???????? I can find no bullets in Huntingtons for the rifle. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | ||
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slugging the bore will result, likely, in a .356 groove -- people have been shooting .358 bullets in them for 80 years. opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Hawk has 200gr and 250gr bullets. | |||
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Make sure u back of the load data and work up slowly when using 358 bullets... Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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The 9x57 has a different bore from the 9x62? That's news to me. I rechambered an old M96 potato flinger to 62mm and it turned into a pocket rocket. Didn't notice a bit of difference in the pressures or the bore deposits. Sarge Holland's .375: One Planet, One Rifle . . . for one hundred years! | |||
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I just picked up a Mauser 88 Sempert-Krieghoff, chambered in the old 9x56 Mannlicher-Schoenauer. This one will be interesting! | |||
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perhaps you mean 9,3x57 and 62 .. .366 bullets. the 9x57 is a different animal opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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groove dia.????roger Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I've had several original Mauser sporters in 9x57. Luckily when I bought them at auctions in England, I also bought about 500 total rounds or a bit more of DWM original 9x57 ammo. (That was back in the early 1970s.) Still, I did handload for them...didn't want to ushoot up all those nice old "blue pill" loads as John Taylor referred to them in his book on African Rifles and Cartridges. The bore of the only one I recall slugging went IIRC about .3555" but it (and the others which I did NOT slug) worked quite well with the same .358 bullets I used in the M70 FW .358 Win. which I had at the same time. And Jeffe is quite correct. The 9x57 is an entirely different bore diameter than the 9.3x57. It is quite easy to size .358" diameter rifle bullets down the .0025" to make proper fitting bullets if you want to. But I wouldn't even consider shooting 9.3 bullets (.366") through a rechambered 9 m/m (.3555") bore. I think it is a great old round. Winchester DID chamber the Model 70 for it too, for part of a year, but apparently it did not sell well here, so they dropped it well before the Germans invaded Poland in 1939. I can't yet get to my old loading books, but I THINK the powder charge with the 250 grain bullets I used was 40 grains of IMR 3031. I may have mentioned the load in an article called "Shooting The Odd 9s" which Rifle magazine published, again IIRC, in 1973 or '74. | |||
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Yes, they are different animals, namely the bore size. However, I had a rifle, still do as a matter of fact, that has a .356" bore. The rifle however was sold as a 9,3x57 and had been fired for years as such. The chamber would allow a loaded 9,3x57 catridge to be chambered. I suspect that the original 9x57 chamber was recut either just before it left Germany for Sweden or upon entering Sweden from Germany. Having more than a few 9,3x57's already I did the only logical thing and, using a .356" pilot, recut the chamber to .35 Whelen. 9x57 groove diameters vary from .354" to .356" and more. Depends on who made them and how well they were maintained.  Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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