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First I want to apologize for being continually bothering with queries that ultimately lead nowhere . This time I want you to know that I can buy a rifle Santa Barbara ( Spanish-made ) to a friend, but he did not know if I will sell one that is in 270 Winchester or other having in 7 Remington Magnum (probably 270 wants to detach from Winchester ) . I have whipped as rifle ; Remington 700 in one magical cartridge; 338 Winchester Magnum and want to complete my gunsmith with a rifle for stalking. I am a lover of the magnum cartridges and yet this time you may have to settle for the 270 Winchester and would like dijeseis me what you think this cartridge . Some time ago I consulted on the 300 RUM but I think to use that I 'm giving as I can be hunting deer or chamois hunting a smaller cartridge will be a better choice. Please tell me that the 270 Winchester cartridge as to complement the 338 Magnum Wincheste ; is a good or best option. RM guess 7 is much better than the 270 Winchester but sometimes there are not many options to get what we want. Forgive the inconvenience .

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I have a friend who has shot a .270 longer than I've known him (40 years), he only shoots factory 130 grain bullets. He has killed truckloads of Mule Deer and Antelope in all sizes and from short and long distances, taken half a dozen or more Elk and just returned from his first African plains game hunt all with the same rifle. In SA he took Kudu, multiple wildebeests and several other smaller antelopes all with great success.
If you ask him there is no other rifle than a .270.
 
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I have a friend who has shot a .270 longer than I've known him (40 years), he only shoots factory 130 grain bullets. He has killed truckloads of Mule Deer and Antelope in all sizes and from short and long distances, taken half a dozen or more Elk and just returned from his first African plains game hunt all with the same rifle. In SA he took Kudu, multiple wildebeests and several other smaller antelopes all with great success.
If you ask him there is no other rifle than a .270.


I have been advised by a friend also on the 270 Winchester but I usually dazzle with figures yielding ballistics as the 270 WSM cartridges versus non magnum. The truth is that the 270 Winchester rifle in me will be sold for a good price and is an almost pure Mauser 98 action which is quality assurance. I will tell you what happens at the end, but I'm praying more opicinones this cartridge. It will be my first non-magnum cartridge hehe. Thank you very much for your reply;

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I net a guy in Idaho who has killed several eland with a 270. That's damn impressive.
 
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Hello, I would choose for Eland 338 Winchester Magnum, but certainly really impressive as "small" topple cartridge bearing such an animal. Eeker

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I think a .270 is a perfect compliment to a .338! Between the two you've got 98% of the world's game animals covered.
 
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I think a .270 is a perfect compliment to a .338! Between the two you've got 98% of the world's game animals covered.


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Si, the 270Win is a great complement to the 338WinMag. And when you want or need something more . . . there is the handloaded 416 Rigby with the same tried-and-true trajectory for hunting.


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The 270 will do what the 280AI will do for a lot less


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tu2IMHO The .270 is one of the best designed commercial hunting cartridges of all time. old Military designed cartridges have a bigger following for hunting, but their performance does not really best the .270 to an meaningful degree, if at all.
It's ability to handle large game at long distances is better than mine or many others for that matter. beerroger


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Hi, I'm already seeing that with the 270 Winchester I'm not wrong. For big game I have a 458 Lott I think it will be able to abate the dangerous wildlife without too much difficulty, in addition to the great African antelopes I also have a 375 H & H Magnum, now I just need a good lottery prize to go safari hehe. Then I got it clear if my friend gives me the 270 Winchester in Santa Barbara I accept without hesitation a second. Another issue is it easy to reload this cartridge?, I have a Lyman Crusher II press and for a little more money I can buy the dies and other tools to load my own cartridges. Thanks for everything,

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The 270 is a great cartridge. It is easy to reload. You need slower powders like 4831 or RL22 but many powders and 130 or 150 bullets will work well.


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The 270 is a great cartridge. It is easy to reload. You need slower powders like 4831 or RL22 but many powders and 130 or 150 bullets will work well.


I fear that Spain will not find those powders, here comes the Vectan only gunpowder. Spain is different.

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After 44 years with the 270 I don't believe you'll be disappointed.


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Hello friends, I still do not know what's going to make the man who sold me the rifle, everything will be watching over time. At first I was not sure that would be the 270 Winchester which this man was going to sell me but talking to him seems to have got better sell 7 Remington Magnum, because it has elements of recharge for the 270 Winchester. Well, I'll tell you what this man decides and of course when I have the gun (going for long because I have to keep on saving euros) I will put pictures of Santa Barbara. I guess all this for 270 Winchester can be extrapolated to 7 Remington Magnum right?

Ovny.

P.S: I had made ​​up my mind to hunt with a "no magnum" cartridge. As I said, I'll tell you. I hope I do not bother much.


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With the Nosler AccuBond 150 gn Long Range bullet, it's outstanding!

 
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Ovny,

Many think of the 270 as doing everything that a 7mRM does in the hunting field, others like the heavier options of the 7mm 160 and 175 grain bullets. (Actually, the 270 has a 180 grain bullet option, but the 130 grain and 150 grain .277" bullets probably take everything that you want to use a 27-28 calibre bullet for.) So if you would like a 'non-magnum' hunting calibre, the 270 is a delightful choice.


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Hello, now depend on the decision of the seller, if I want to sell the 270 great, if I sold 7 RM I like it. Anyway, then I have to save for a not very expensive but with a minimum display quality and save to hunt. I'd love to release it with a roebuck or a deer even if not a big trophy.

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the .270 Win. like the 30-06 has proven itself for a hundred and some years, its reputation is impecable, and anyone that condems it is just talking out the wrong end and hasn't used it...Its one of the all time greats..

I have never been without a 270 or a 30-06..I have killed Kudu, Eland, Gemsbok, elk and Moose with a 150 gr. Nosler in the .270 without any problems at all..also with the 30-06 and 180 and 200 gr. Noslers...Couldn't tell much difference..I prefer to limit my shots to broadside, at least on the primary shot, but I do that on rabbits.

The only advantage a .338 or 375 has over the 270 and 30-06 is at extended range perhaps, and definatly on the Texas Heart shot where penetration and bullet mass is critical, and the bigger guns do normally leave a better blood trail, therefore they are a better choice for the largest of animals, if you have a choice.

Bottom line is I would not hestitate to hunt anything "short" of Cape Buffalo with either, but under Ideal conditions I wouldn't turn down a good buffalo bull that just showed up and gave me a good broadside shot if I had a magzine full of heavy for caliber Noslers or solids...Just my opine.


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Atkinson, I was convinced to get the 270, but does not depend on me, but on the will of the person who sold me the gun and I do not know if in the end I will have the 270 W or 7RM (which also seems a wrong cartridge to complement my gunsmith). As I said in an earlier post, for what I get of course you will have heard of them as I can and photographs. And hopefully with time and some pictures of the rifle catch taken with gun and cartridge that sells me this man.

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OVNY, either rifle will be fine, no worries.
 
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OVNY, either rifle will be fine, no worries.



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Flat shooting round that hits like a magnum and yet has surprisingly tolerable recoil. There is a reason it perennially lands in the top five calibers bought...
 
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Very little difference between a 7mm mag and a 270. Pretty big difference between a 270 and 338 WM.
 
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So I wanted to complement the 338 Winchester Magnum that I will use to hunt animals in the great state of excitement harassed by dogs, with a more suitable for shooting animals at rest, as they hunt stalking cartridge. Well I'll be a time without access to the forum since I am immersed in a selection process to try to get on the scale of officers in my job (my aspiration is to be lieutenant and move up, for now I am sergeant of a police force my country is called Civil Guard) and I will have little time if I study hard. Thank you very much for your answers,

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Nothing wrong with the 270 at all, and used to shoot thousands of deer every year. But picking up on your comments re shooting animals being cornered by dogs. If these are wild boar and the range is close you might want to look at the 7x64 or 30-06. Both with 140 to 150 grain bullets shoot fast and flat, but you can heavy bullets moving at 2600 fps which are just the job for close range work. Slower velocity = better penetration. A 130 grain bullet at 3,000 fps might just blow up.
 
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Very little difference between a 7mm mag and a 270. Pretty big difference between a 270 and 338 WM.


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Nothing wrong with the 270 at all, and used to shoot thousands of deer every year. But picking up on your comments re shooting animals being cornered by dogs. If these are wild boar and the range is close you might want to look at the 7x64 or 30-06. Both with 140 to 150 grain bullets shoot fast and flat, but you can heavy bullets moving at 2600 fps which are just the job for close range work. Slower velocity = better penetration. A 130 grain bullet at 3,000 fps might just blow up.



Hello, for the boar beset by dogs (the mode of hunting in Spain, is called "montería") I will use the 338 Winchester Magnum, because in the Spanish mountains there are many areas where the projectile to reach the animal's body is found with vegetation of be a little cartridge diameter may be affected by such vegetation in its path. Also for animals fleeing dogs and all systems on alert cartridges stronger when animals at rest and in Spain the 338 WM is gaining many followers because even with not very well placed shots are hunted parts needed are charged - usually wild boar and deer, which avoids many discussions with other hunters. In stalking animals at rest fires, which often are eating and are much supceptibles the shots, and if the roebuck is not even very powerful cartridges (6.5 x55, 243 Winchester, 22-250 etc. .. .) are folded nicely.

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A .338 and a 270 or 7 Mag is about a perfect choice of guns to hunt just about anything anywhere and in a pinch I have killed buffalo with a .338 with a good solid and its a perfect eland rifle with 275 gr. Speers, Swifts, or better yet the 300 gr. Woodleigh PP, my all time favorite for big stuff....Push come to shove I'll pick the 270 over the 7 Mag..With good handloads the 7 mag only beats the .270 in noise! Eeker well almost.


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A .338 and a 270 or 7 Mag is about a perfect choice of guns to hunt just about anything anywhere and in a pinch I have killed buffalo with a .338 with a good solid and its a perfect eland rifle with 275 gr. Speers, Swifts, or better yet the 300 gr. Woodleigh PP, my all time favorite for big stuff....Push come to shove I'll pick the 270 over the 7 Mag..With good handloads the 7 mag only beats the .270 in noise! Eeker well almost.


Thanks, but in the end I have to stay with the rifle that sells me mate lol. 7 RM I like a lot. I'll enjoy it for sure.

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Sin duda los dos pueden matar animales mediano y un pock Mas grande a 500 meters o Mas. No hay bastante differencia entre de los dos a tener ambos si no tienen Otro differencias.

I love my 7 mm and see no need for a 270 since they fill the same niche but I reccomend the 270 all the time for younger hunters who want a good all around rifle along with the 30-06 of course.
 
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You have to see "wildboar fever 4" to see what a .270w can do on pigs.
 
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Just FYI, the 270 came out in 1925. At 89 years young it has not quite reached the century mark. I have not the slightest doubt it will reach that mark with little diminution in popularity or effectiveness.


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If you have a .338 win mag you are set for all big game in north amerca.
However if you ad a 270 you have a rifle that is also fun to shoot and fully capable of any game through elk.
You need no more. But its ok to buy more ju7st for the fun of it...
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I don´t need one rifle in 270 or 7 mm, but I want to buy it. I think that one bullet of 338 Winchester Magnum is too for hunt a roebuck, so I going to buy the rifle in 270 or 7 mm. Also, We (lovers weapons) are very capricious.

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Ovny, I've killed everything from prairie dogs up through elk and bears (black and mountain grizzlies) with mine. It's 40 plus years old and it's now my son's pride and joy. 150g Nosler Partitions and you're good to go.

My son with his first elk and his (my old) 270



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That gives me envy your son, no wonder the face of joy that shown in the photograph; Nice elk that managed abate. Huge. Thanks again for your reply. I wish to sell the 270 Winchester, I will try to convince the fellow who sold me the rifle.

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The '06 cartridge has spawned many a fine offspring, the 270 is certainly among the top.

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I have got pics of the Santa Barbara rifle. I going to buy this rifle without the scope that you can see in the pics. What do you think this rifle?

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Why I can´t see the pics that I share with you? Eeker

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