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Saw this and was wondering about it.... | ||
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used to have one many moons ago. called 270 bobcat. about the same thing as a 7/08 | |||
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A 308 Win necked down to .277 cal was introduced in South Africa by Sabi Rifles I think its called the .270 SABI. | |||
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I'd say +1 to the comment by LAL. Post your question on the African Hunting part of our forum and you may get a lot of responses. | |||
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The .270/.308 has been around in many versions for many years. There was a .270 Redding (yes THAT Redding) in the 80s/90s. Performance-wise it is a ringer for the 7-08, as one would expect with just 0.007" difference in bullet diameter. . | |||
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If your interested in the 270 Redding, Hart has a reamer. They did an excellent job for me and I really like the round. It's not exactly a 270-308, but improved with a 30 degree shoulder. If you search this forum, you'll find several recent threads. | |||
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Get a 7x57, unless you want something different! When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults! | |||
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Wasn't interested in building one. Just came across the caliber and I wondered if I was missing something. I figured 7/08 would pretty much be the same. Thanks for the info. | |||
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the 270 Savage, maybe" Rich | |||
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270 Savage, 270 Evans, 270 Titus were all cartridges formed by necking down the 300 Savage to .277 cal. Most of this happened in the mid to late 1940's. The popular Sav 99 rifle could be re-barreled to a flat shooting rifle that claimed 2700fps with a 130 gr bullet. When the 308 was introduced in the 1950's it would have been necked down to 277. Handi light short action rifles were not big at that time plus knowing it would never reach 270 Win velocity it never gained much popularity. | |||
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.264 = 260 rem .284 = 708 .277 = waste of time, money, and effort .. me? i'd use 708 starting loaded and work up from there. expect WORSE vels than a 708, same bullet weight, due to the 7mm having a "larger" bearing surface and shorter bullets by weight.. at the same pressure... about .25% less, actually. so, unless you are just hooked on a .277 bs .284, you have nothing to gain and lots to prove, on a very small diff wildcat. opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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It's interesting to me the response many people have to the 270-08. The common response is quite different than the response most people have to a cartridge such as the 6.5-06. Like the 270-08, the 6.5-06 is very similar to popular cartridges (25-06 and the 270 Winchester), but the comments are much more positive towards the 6.5-06 than the 270-08. The 6.5-06 and the 270-08 are in similar circumstance, but the 270-08 gets much more "waste of time and money" comments. Even the 25 Souper 25-08 doesn't attract such negative comments. Regardless, I decided to build a 270-08 and am very pleased with it. It's my favorite wildcat and a superb medium game cartridge. I could use a 260 Remington or a 7mm-08 instead, but I wanted a 270-08 and am happy with it. The basic truth of all cartridges is that they all are only marginally different than other cartridges. Once the 8x57 was introduced, then most all other cartridges since then could be considered a waste of time. But we all know some superb cartridges came from wildcatting and I think the 270-08 is just one of many variations of the 308 case. | |||
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duckboat, where did you get your reamer from? I looked at most of the rental sites, but all they had were imp versions. | |||
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Bingo ! ......civilize 'em with a Krag | |||
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theback40, I also used an improved version - 270 Redding. Hart Barrels has the reamer and they did the rebarrel for me. I don't know of anyone who has the basic 270-08 reamer. | |||
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By 1912 you had the 7x57 8x57 6.5x55 30-06 375hh mag 416 Rigby The 270 win in 1925 and the 338 win mag in 1958. Everything else has been a waste of time unless you are talking some specialty benchrest cartridge or military applications. Mike Legistine actu? Quid scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Duck 6.5 brenneke not -06. I do slot of hunting with a 7mm brenneke. opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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http://www.reloadbench.com/popup/cart/093.html Regards, Bob. | |||
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If you want "real life" chrony ballistics let me know as I have built the 270/08 and the AI version and have some interesting data. Aloha, Mark When the fear of death is no longer a concern----the Rules of War change!! | |||
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that Wildcat took place within days after the introduction of the .308 caliber..Americans necked it up and down the minute brass or ammo became available for the .308... P.O. Ackleys book Volume 1 and 11, Handbook for Shooter and Reloaders has a page or two on the caliber.. Today you would be better off to buy a 7-08, its basically the same thing and a whole lot less trouble to load. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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