Has anybody done this??

Would a Ruger Express 270 or 30-06 work for this conversion? Enough meat in the barrel for re-bore??

Thanks All..

35 whelen ... on a rebarrel .. a rebore should work

gzig5 was kind enought to post these dimensions.
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gzig5
Posted 24 February 2010 18:26
Most reborers require a minimum of .100" per side at the muzzle, some a bit more. .366 +.1 +.1 = .566" so if your muzzle dia is greater than .566" the barrel should be suitable for rebore. You could also shorten a tapered barrel to increase the diameter.
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Perhaps somebody has access to a Ruger Express 270 or 30-06 can take some measurements??

Providing it's a good to go with the bore dimensions, you think it should be an easy conversion??

If the barrel diameter is big enough (as listed above) you also have to consider most rebore shops charge for more then 4 caliber increases. So unless you wanted to pay extra, a 30-06 is the smallest you can start with to hit 9.3x62 (323, 338, 358, tada 366)

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Originally posted by MileHighShooter:
If the barrel diameter is big enough (as listed above) you also have to consider most rebore shops charge for more then 4 caliber increases. So unless you wanted to pay extra, a 30-06 is the smallest you can start with to hit 9.3x62 (323, 338, 358, tada 366)

Ahh... Thanks for that info. Info like this can save me lots of headaches..

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Originally posted by MileHighShooter:
shops charge for more then 4 caliber increases. So unless you wanted to pay extra, a 30-06 is the smallest you can start with to hit 9.3x62 (323, 338, 358, tada 366)

Never heard of that. I know there is a minimum they can open a bore, but never heard of extra charge for going x amount bigger. Before you go too far with your project, I would suggest discussing it with Jim Dubbel at Clearwater Reboring or Dan Pederson, or whoever you plan on using. Get it straight from the horse's mouth so to speak.

I don't know if every shop does that 4+ charge, I'm just goin off what I saw on z-hats and cutrifle's pages. It wasn't a big charge, but I think for the safest results I would want to rebore as close to 2-4 calibers as possible. The more times that tool runs through the barrel the more chances to screw it up.

the ruger express is a VERY VERY VERY heavy barrel .. that's why they didn't sell like hot cakes...

Mike:
Hendershot's Sporting Goods has a used 30/06 Express on their web site right now. I don't know if I agree the standard calibers had heavy barrels. The big magnums yes but the standard calibers were pretty similar in taper to the standard 77 barrels. Lance at Hendershots is a good guy and I'm sure he would be willing to mic the barrel for you if you sounded interested.

Jeffeoso, Milehigh,gizig5,LJS... Gentlemen Thank you for your contributions, very helpful. Keep them coming. The Ruger is my 1st choice.. But I just ran across a old commercial FN Mauser 98 in 270Win that might work out if I can't find a somewhat reasonable Ruger Express.. Will be giving Hendershots a call..

Please keep the information and suggestions coming..

Any recomendations on who to do the re-boring and the rest of the conversion??

Thanks.

Why not just buy one? There is a gunshow nearby this weekend, and a friend of a friend had one on his table for sale IIRC.

If you want, PM me your cell number and if it is there tomorrow I can just call you. You can make the deal or not on the phone.

Rich

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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Why not just buy one? There is a gunshow nearby this weekend, and a friend of a friend had one on his table for sale IIRC.

If you want, PM me your cell number and if it is there tomorrow I can just call you. You can make the deal or not on the phone.

Rich

Rich you got PM...

What exactly is he selling??

Rich has a point. I thought you may have already had the Ruger and wanted a rebore. If you have to go buy the rifle, then rebore it....maybe just get a CZ 9.3x62 to start with and likely save time and maybe money. Plus rebores are not 100%....they do go wrong now and again, then you have to rebarrel.

If you are in no rush, just surf the classified forum here. I see a 9.3 almost on a weekly basis in all flavors.

Reboring is good for a shot out barrel, or if you want to keep something similar on the existing barrel like sights, or engraving. These days rebarrel jobs are about 500 ish from places like Pac-Nor. Cutrifle reboring is 300$ with a chamber without a set back.

Nooooo... Don't confuse me I finally have a plan

Ok.. Pull up a chair and lets talk... I already have two 9.3X62's.. A 1929 Custom Mauser (looks to be a Sauer & Sohn mfg. to me) FS 23"barrel mint bore, factory engraving Oct-round barrel claw detach bases.. WWII G.I bring back & he didn't bring the scope/mount assy as was the norm.. Much case hardening still visible and looks to be (silver?) plated engraved floor plate & t/g assy and silver engraved front sling swivel along with horn for end tip and grip cap.. I'm sure at one time it had a horn butt plate, but when I got it it had an old rotting rubber pad.. I had NECG replace the pad with a red silvers pad & install internal cross bolt and bed the recoil lug. (didn't want to chance any cracked stock)Also they re-worked the rear sight as it was flattened a bit on one side.. (if somebody can post pictures for me, maybe somebody can I.D this rifle)

2nd rifle is a CZ550 F/S.. Shoot's like a house afire with everything at or -3/4 groups @ 2400fps with max book load of Varget & 286gr Woodleigh PP.. I dearly love FS carbines, but I hate this Bavarian style stock.. Would love somebody to rework this stock and nose cap into a nice traditional style Mannlicher stock, but between that and NECG sights, reblue ect.ect. quotes were 2K+ with my barreled action.. Hence my thoughts.. Spend that much money and still have a CZ550..

Your thought's??

Why not contact AHR and see if they have an "American" style FS stock? I don't know whether CZ makes them or not. My 7x57 has the standard style CZ FS stock.
Peter.

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Originally posted by Peter:
Why not contact AHR and see if they have an "American" style FS stock? I don't know whether CZ makes them or not. My 7x57 has the standard style CZ FS stock.
Peter.

Thanks Pete,
Did that.. They have a Traditional style Mauser stock available but not a FS.. that's were the 2K quote came in..

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Originally posted by LJS:
Mike:
Hendershot's Sporting Goods has a used 30/06 Express on their web site right now. I don't know if I agree the standard calibers had heavy barrels. The big magnums yes but the standard calibers were pretty similar in taper to the standard 77 barrels. Lance at Hendershots is a good guy and I'm sure he would be willing to mic the barrel for you if you sounded interested.

the 30-06 and 270 express, with quarter rib, is a heavy fat PIG, which is why they didn't sell... have him mic the barrel... it'll be about grossly larger than .425

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by LJS:
Mike:
Hendershot's Sporting Goods has a used 30/06 Express on their web site right now. I don't know if I agree the standard calibers had heavy barrels. The big magnums yes but the standard calibers were pretty similar in taper to the standard 77 barrels. Lance at Hendershots is a good guy and I'm sure he would be willing to mic the barrel for you if you sounded interested.

the 30-06 and 270 express, with quarter rib, is a heavy fat PIG, which is why they didn't sell... have him mic the barrel... it'll be about grossly larger than .425

Muzzle dia. .566-567.. Bare minimum when I talked to Clearwater yesterday.

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Mike I may have missed one but can't figure out which one!
Peter

Heck I'm dang happy with that.... Thank you so much...

Does this mean jacked my own thread??

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Originally posted by LJS:
Mike:
Hendershot's Sporting Goods has a used 30/06 Express on their web site right now. I don't know if I agree the standard calibers had heavy barrels. The big magnums yes but the standard calibers were pretty similar in taper to the standard 77 barrels. Lance at Hendershots is a good guy and I'm sure he would be willing to mic the barrel for you if you sounded interested.

Thanks LJS..... Lance was great to deal with.. Purchased that very same rifle today..

Ruger Express 9.3X62 project is now underway..

Mike, let us know how it goes!

I just measured the barrel diameter of my Ruger 30-06 express and it was .580", far skinnier than the RSM. I haven't weighed it, but imagine 7.5lbs, a far cry from my behemoth RSM 375 at 12lb scoped and loaded. It is a light, trim, handy rifle with an almost skinny looking barrel. I wish they'd sold better and Ruger still made them. I'd love to find one in 338. A 9.3x62 should be delightful.

Not to highjack, but yesterday I started my own project to convert a stainless 77 MkII to 375 H&H, just because.

Bob