I'm with you Jorge,
Mine are all GREAT shooters!

I always wanted a .257 Weatherby. When they came out with that Mark V ultra lightweight, I went down to buy one and got side tracked by a Browning White Gold Medallion. (A true pimp rifle )HA!. I may get that Weatherby one day. Don't they have an accuracy guaranty?



Terry

PS. Jorge, Make that picture smaller!

I have a 257 Wby mag and right out of the box that rifle put 3 bullets thru the same hole at 100 yds. I had heard that it would but seeing is beleaving.

There are tens of thousands of weatherbees out there which will not produce acceptable acceptable accuracy. I have shot some of them.

Thatis good shooting with any brand of rifle.

Jorge,

You already know that I love my wby in 300wby.

Doug

I THINK part of the "shooting problems" with Weatherbys is the reputation for punishing at both ends. I have set down serious class shooters behind my .340 and inevitabley the first shot is NOT where it should be because they were anticipating the thump that never comes.(good brake, about the recoil of a heavy .243...which means not much.)
Once they understand the rifle won't bite they can shoot it and it impresses them.
I have shot ...I don't know how many sub group out at 1000yds, but it is a bunch. At one hundred yards it will put 250gr Gamekings into one ragged hole. With the 300gr MatchKings it is a much less ragged hole.
I have a Sako 995 in .340 also and it will not shoot as tight as the Weatherby, and I think Sako makes some of the most accurate out of the box guns out there.

I have been torn bout getting a .378, but the .340 has done so many one shot, no step kills, not sure what more I can do to improve it. But, then I never used it on moose but I hav no doubt on it would be "fine."

I put Weatherby's in the same category as Leupold scopes.....Very good, nothing in the world wrong with them except that there is better available..........DJ

Jbabcock: My group came in .41" with factory loads. Now that we're doing the "penis envy" thing here's a sample of my Winchester Model 70 in 375 H&H( .21"). Sorry Couldn't resist and George, thanks again and you DO have a valid point about the wife and the 300 H&H! jorge

shot a moose last year with a 340 he dropped like he was hit with a bomb never even kicked couldn't get an exact
range it was snowing too hard but roughly just over 200 yards mine will shot sub 1 moa groups with 250 sierras

I must confess Jorge, most of the game animals that I have shot have been dropped by a 300 Weatherby. You will never hear me criticize the cartridge. It's just about the closest thing you can get to bottled lighting in my opinion. A 180 grain Nosler out of a 300 Weatherby will do for about all but 5 of this planets game animals.

ok folks, "right out of the box". Put a scope on it, cleaned it and fired these two groups with factory ammo. To those of you who say Weatherbys can't shoot, explain this target. No handloads, no trigger adjustmet, no fidgeting with bedding, nothing. I'm glad i fell "victim" to Roy's advertising genius and to the writings of Elgin Gates and others. I have four other Weatherbys in calibers 257, 7MM, 340 (2) and they ALL shoot with the same level of accuracy. This one is my favorite, a 300 Weatherby Mag naturally.









jorge

Jorge,

I love the .300Wby., but your wife would really get a kick of your using the .300H&H she bought you.

George
P.S. I resized the photo for you.

500grains,

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There are tens of thousands of weatherbees out there which will not produce acceptable acceptable accuracy. I have shot some of them.

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Just what do you consider "acceptable accuracy" to be? At least Weatherby will give you a written guarantee that they will back up without question as long as you follow the guidelines. Which firearms manufactures other than Weatherby will give you a �written� guarantee? Lawdog

Not bad Jorge, BUT, if you had just only bought a Winchester , it would shoot like this,



This is with Remington Core-Lokt's, 250 grains at 2661 feet per second.

Nice shooting Jorge. Nice rifles in the smaller calibers - such a shame thy don't make a real DGR.

I would back a Wby in a 378 based calibre against any other big bore for reliability. Admittedly the Wby has the advantage of the in line feed and you can now have then with three shots in the magazine.

Try a 416 Wby with 400 Hornadies loaded backwards for feeding as compared to CZ and Ruger.....and when you do it ram the bolt closed real quick. Again, the Wby has the advantage of the in line feed BUT that is how they come.

In line and push feed might working might not look as nice as staggered CRF working but it will win on reliablity.

Mike

Yep, I surely do! I had such a good time at the range the other day that now I'm second guessing myself as to whether to take my 300 H&H to Africa next June or take the 300 Weatherby again. I've taken quite a bit of game (deer/hogs) with the H&H but the 300 Weatherby did great work for me in Africa and also here in the states with deer hogs and a good sized black bear. Quite honestly, if I had to give up all my guns but one ( perish the thought!) I think I would keep this one. It has gorgeous wood too and just to let the Leupold haters know that I am an "equal opportunity employer," the rifle even sports a Zeiss Scope ( not a COnquest of course. jorge

Jorge..nice groups..you just showed us why some people don't like weatherbys..your groups are to tight..by the way that was a nice write up about john sharp in the hunting reports(dreams can come true). I cant wait..

Jorge: For a couple of decades I heard "rumors" and I was concerned about the case design of the Weatherby cartridges making it difficult to obtain "acceptable accuracy"! So my concerns kept me from getting involved with the Weatherby's sooner than I did.
Now let me add I am also notoriously "recoil aware"!
So my first Weatherby Rifle was a German made beautiful sporter in caliber 224 Weatherby Magnum! This nifty Rifle has killed lots of Coyotes, Rock Chucks, Badgers and Prairie Dogs. It shoots consistently well and the cartridge is impressive in its case life and warm barrel accuracy.
Then I jumped up to the heavier recoiling 240 Weatherby! This was a full custom Rifle made by riflesmith Jim Cloward of Seattle, Washington. Its heavy 27" Hart stainless barrel completely wiped away any remnant of concern about inherent problems with Weatherby cartridge design or lack of accuracy! This Rifle has ALWAYS shot well from day one.
So if anyone has any remaining concerns about accuracy potential from radiused shouldered cartridges my experiences have led me to realize they are unfounded.
I have shot right along side many other Weatherby Rifles and Weatherby chambered custom Rifles. Up to and including the 338/378 Weatherby Magnum. That 338/378 Weatherby I saw shoot/perform at a 1,000 yard range and I was spotting right over the shoulder of its owner another time when it took a wonderful 7x7 Bull Elk with one shot here in Montana!
In appreciation of that Rifle and cartridge I bought a set of Redding dies in caliber 338/378 Weatherby but I have not seriously shopped for a Rifle in that caliber as yet. The recoil awareness I harbor has not let me make that "jump" as yet!
Long live Weatherby!
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Belaw: forget lightning and read George S' comment-My wife gave me the 300 H&H! here's a picture of my prospective African battery for Buff and plains game next June. The 300 H&H is in the background and the Ruger 416 Rigby in front:



jorge

I've never owned a Weatherby rifle. No particular reason why, I just have never gotten around to buying one. I expect someday I will, though.

However, I do own a Sako chambered in .300 Weatherby and I have really enjoyed it. I shot the smallest group I've ever shot (3 shots into one hole just barely larger than 1 bullet diameter) with that rifle and cartridge (shooting 180 gr. Speer Grand Slams no less). And in general, this rifle has been my most accurate one. So, I don't know about the Weatherby rifles, but there are no flies on this cartridge.

Nice shooting Jorge. Nice rifles in the smaller calibers - such a shame thy don't make a real DGR.

[quoteI had such a good time at the range the other day that now I'm second guessing myself as to whether to take my 300 H&H to Africa next June or take the 300 Weatherby again.

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Jorge:

WHAT??? You own a rifle in 300 H&H and you're thinking of leaving it behind when you go on a plains game hunt in Africa? Lightning is going to strike you for even thinking such thoughts!

JB: Actually Elgin Gates DID take just about every animal on the planet INCLUDING the "Big Five" with his 300. And yes I have been im pressed with the way Weatherby calibers appear to kill with authority, maybe velocity does play a bigger part than it is given credit for.... Regarding the comment that there are "better" rifles out there, I reckon so, some of you guys have shown us your masterpieces out there, worth every penny for the most part, but DJ, what in your opinion is a "better" rifle than the Weatherby in the same price range or less? jorge

Jorge, the 2-hole 3-shot group on the right of your sample target looks just like the factory target shipped with my Vanguard .300 Weatherby. It's always been a great shooter.

Hey Jorge, That 300 H&H in the back groud, Is that the stock Chic reshaped for you?

Terry

Jorge,
Since it seems you are a real Weatherby fan, can you tell me this.
A friend of mine ( getting up in age ) has a 240 Weatherby, that he has tried for a couple of yrs. or so to get me to buy it from him. I am a 6MM, & #1 fan. He has a Ruger #1 in Rem. 7mm that I always try to change the subject to, as I am interested in it, which I don't think he has ever shot, but so far he will not sell it. I would say the Weatherby is in very good+ condition. It has some fancy gold engraving on the action. He took it in trade, yrs. ago. He has over 200+ guns, & I don't think he ever shot it. Since I really never got into Weatherbys, & really an ignorant of them except reading about them, is this a "collectors or rare Weatherby". Thanks

Gene

TC1: I have them on disc at the office so sometime tomorrow evening I'll get them to you. Chestsprings; from what I can gather, it sounds like it's a Custom Weatherby. It's difficult to assess without looking at it or if you could decribe it with more detail. For example is there any engraving on the floorplate? where was it made? Germany, the US or Japan. What kind of action does it have, the standard Weatherby MKV or something else? Whne Weatherby first started, he used Mausers Schutz & Larsens for his rifles. The gold engraving tells me that it is most certainly a special order custom. They cost quite a few bucks, but collectors are funny people. If you are really serious, contact the Weatherby Collectors association. Hope this helps. jorge

Ricochet" What can I say? All Weatherbys that have crossed through my hands ( probably about a dozen) have been hands-down the most accurate shooters AS A GROUP than any other brand of rifle I've ever owned. I love my Pre-64s and my Belgian Browning Safaris and my two Rugers, but the Weatherby's average beats them all. Matter of fact, I just pissed off the manager at my local Wal mart; I asked him to bring out ALL the Vanguards ( they sell them at about 40 bucks more than I can get them wholesale)he had in the back room ( he had three) and I picked the one up for my son in 300 Weatherby that had the tighest target. I'll give to him this Christmas. He can handle it, he's only 16 but he's 6'1"/245 jorge

Jorge,

Thanks for advising me on what to ask/look for. I will be going back to Pa. next month, & I'll get more detailed info. on it. Maybe I'll become a Weatherby owner.

Gene

I'd love to see it! snargfarg@aol.com

Thanks!

Jorge, I prefer the Sako 75, and the Kimber 8400 series to the Weatherby MK V. Where I can buy from both are usually a couple hundred cheaper. The Sako's to me is much smoother and better made. The Sako's don't leave the factory unless they pass a 5 shot sub 1" group at 100yds test (yes they say 5 shot), this guarantee is far more stringent than a 3 shot 1 & 1/2 inch test. The Weatherby's in general may shoot as well (I've only had a couple) but I know that the Sako's shoot extremely well (I have several). The Kimbers are American-Made, lightweight, CRF and so far the 3 that I've had have all shot 1/2 MOA or better (3 shots 1" at 200yds). In the Vanguard price range I would prefer a Tikka T-3, same accuracy and also they are very lightweight.
Again these are just my preferences. If a Weatherby fits you better than a Sako, buy it, but the converse is also true. I would suggest that people inspect all 3 makes. Quality competition should make all of them better.

DJ: no problems with your comments, except to say that I don't see how you can say Sakos or Tikkas are better finished than Weatherbys. NO WAY, but that's great that they provide that accuracy guarantee ( do they supply a target with each rifle?). Regarding Kimbers their barrels "ain't what they used to be." There's another thread here somewhere that elaborates. Also Weatherbys ARE American made. I only bring that fact up because you did.

TC1: Yes and no. Chic completly redid that 300 H&H stock for me, recut the checkering, etc., but no reshape. The one he reshaped was a Model 70 in 300 Win Mag and man is it gorgoeus. I'll did a picture up and email it to you if you'd like. jorge

jorge

I like the wby calibers from 270 to 340Wby (excluding the X-378) But I have never like the Mark V action. I think the old weatherby's built on mauser actions are the nicest

My current favorite round is the 7mm wby

Cheers
/ JOHAN

Johan: I have two 340s a MKV Made in Germany and a new Accumark. Both are sub-moa shooters. I bough the Accumark, then a buddy of mine that ownd a gun shop told my wife about the German one so she got it for me. I also have a 7 Mag that is very accurate, a 300 and a 257 Ultramark. They are great rifles. I've been "exploring" the larger calibers, but I can't seem to get around the non-CRF thing for some reason Maybe If I find an old one with a Mauser action...... jorge

Lucky?

I have had great results with a 270mag in the mark V with the cheap plastic stock. I feel that the shape of the stock allows the shooter a better base for holding the rifle still. I can't speak for other calibers but the 270wby with 140 ballistic tips,and the 150 partition ,are both very accurate. Also if the flatter shooting cartridges aid the hunter with longer shots by removing some of the range estimation.This can help your average hunter reach his real potential. I got this rifle because my old 3006 took a little extra time to estimate range, between 300 and 500 yards. There is no spot and stalk where I hunt,it is more like spot and shoot,or go home empty. Oh by the way ,my 270 mag has caused more dropped on top of themselves and,lightening strike kills than all my rifles. Weatherby rocks!!