Anyone done this? Seems like one could make a handy little package out of it "just because."

A flanged is the only way to go in a double rifle,as a rimless case on a double tends to jump a rimless caliber, but in a Ruger no.1, I would not use a flanged caliber, I would use the .375 H&H or Ruger..No need for a flanged case in a Ruger no. 1..The Ruger will feed and eject any rimless as well as any flanged, but rimless rounds are better in all respects than flanged rounds..The Ruger is one of, or perhaps THE strongest action out there.

I was going to do this a few years ago but got sidetracked into a different (and more expensive) direction. I have a very lovely 375 Flanged single shot rifle but it's not a Ruger.

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Originally posted by FFemtRN5287:
Anyone done this? Seems like one could make a handy little package out of it "just because."

I've built a lot of "just because" firearms. I say go with whatever floats your boat. Just starting to get to know the .375 Flanged.

seems like a fantastic idea, especially in a light weight package -- a magic wand, in fact

FF,
How about a .411 flanged magnum available in the Ruger No 1 today?
With the added flexibility to shoot 210, 300, 400 grain bullets?
I am talking about the .405 Winchester, which can be loaded to be a pussycat or giant slayer.

In the No 1, there are no magazine or COL considerations and the action is VERY strong.
Plus this has been done before and the loads are available. Plus, it is off the shelf and to the range with no expensive gunsmithing.

Just saying,,,

In all honestly I'll probably never pursue this. I'm just surprised I haven't read of or seen one, given the flexibility of the platform and resurgence of some of the older flanged cartridges chambered in it.

The words "magic wand" are exactly right for this particular one.

Isn't that nice. Not sure I even want to lookup a price on that. Will just remind me of how poor I am.

Those Luxus rifles are beautiful, Mike. Wish I'd jumped on one at their intro pricing.

The Luxus intro offer was a fraction of their current price list. One option at that time that was extremely important to me was a custom serial # since this was a commemorative build. This has also been my primary hunting rifle for several years. It's not quiet as shiny and new looking as it used to be but that is OK.

That is a beautiful gun.

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Originally posted by FFemtRN5287:
Anyone done this? Seems like one could make a handy little package out of it "just because."

Very handy.
Had one made on an 1878 Sharps Borchardt, wish I still had it.

I'm with Dave in the "whatever floats your boat" school. Just seems that flanged cartridges and single shot rifles go together. Some years back, after reading yet another a Ross Seyfried article, I had a No. 1 in .458 Win Mag rechambered to .450 NE, just because.
The wood and case coloring on the Luxus are outstanding, but I much prefer the look of the Ruger.

I also like Ruger single shots. I have some of the "Boddington" series from a few years ago and a couple of No 1Vs. There is also a No 3 that (in my mind) has been a dozen different projects but it is still waiting for the right combination of inspiration and $ to actually do it.

I would buy a Ruger No. 1 in .375 Flanged in a heartbeat. Would be a neat rifle. Keep it lean and trim with a quarter rib and iron sights.

I'm with Mike. Would love one in a No.1 to go with my double.

I had a No.1 in 450/400 3" and the No.1 does well with flanged cartridges, except they hit the safety on the way out....

There's no reason it wouldn't work, but if I were going to build a medium-bore on #1, I'd build a 7x65R because I'd use it more often.

George

If I was looking to build a light, handy .375 H&H FL Mag on a Ruger single shot I would start with a Ruger No.3 in .375 Winchester. A simple rechambering is all it would take. Then wood could be swapped out for No.1 wood or a custom stock could be installed.

That's what I did to get this rifle in .375 FL NE 2-1/2". It could have just as easily been rechambered in .375 H&H FL Mag. It has Ruger No.1 wood and I had the lever reshaped. I sold the take-off No.3 wood for almost as much as the replacement wood cost. I actually prefer this lever to the No.1 lever. As a side note, I have replaced the scope with a Leupold since this was taken. The Weaver scope kept wandering.

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Originally posted by GeorgeS:
There's no reason it wouldn't work, but if I were going to build a medium-bore on #1, I'd build a 7x65R because I'd use it more often.

George

- or just 7x64 (rimless) in a #1 -- i sure use the heck out of mine!

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Originally posted by Grenadier:
If I was looking to build a light, handy .375 H&H FL Mag on a Ruger single shot I would start with a Ruger No.3 in .375 Winchester. A simple rechambering is all it would take. Then wood could be swapped out for No.1 wood or a custom stock could be installed.

That's what I did to get this rifle in .375 FL NE 2-1/2". It could have just as easily been rechambered in .375 H&H FL Mag. It has Ruger No.1 wood and I had the lever reshaped. I sold the take-off No.3 wood for almost as much as the replacement wood cost. I actually prefer this lever to the No.1 lever. As a side note, I have replaced the scope with a Leupold since this was taken. The Weaver scope kept wandering.

Interesting, I've been considering converting a Ruger No 3 in 30-40 Krag to 300 H&H using the Ruger No. 1 stock set. Everyone is telling me not to do it though because the 30-40 Krag is a rare chambering and my No. 3 is in really great shape.

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I had a No.1 in 450/400 3" and the No.1 does well with flanged cartridges, except they hit the safety on the way out....

Not if you have one of these installed. http://www.legendaryarmsworks....-1-Safety-p/rug1.htm

Gren, if you care to share anything about the handloads you like in your .375 NE 2 1/2, don't be shy. I have a Lee-Metford sporter with bum .303 bore and that reamer.

Not on the Ruger #1 but doing a build on a trade Farquharson in this caliber. Bills right, don't be shy about the load you are using...trying to gather as much info as I can.

The flange was born out of necessity so to speak, for use in double rifles as non belted case were deemed unsuitable for double rifles and IMO, that is still fact..The few .458s in doubles have a habit of the extractor jumping the rimless rim, and a serious jam takes place.

Why one would use a flanged cartridge with the Ruger no. 1 seems folley to me, as the 375 H&H or Ruger are so much better, and problems don't occur with rimless in the no. 1...???

Just my opine, and it seems the difference in men and boys is the cost of mens toys!! But to each his own on such matters is a good thing.

The 375 Flanged is a great caliber. I own one-in a double.

And so it is in a double rifle..Ive used one that a friend of mine allows me to play with from time to time..and in a double is where it was designed to be and where it belongs..A Ruger no. 1 deserves a 375 H&H or a Ruger 375 in my opinion..

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Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
Gren, if you care to share anything about the handloads you like in your .375 NE 2 1/2, don't be shy. I have a Lee-Metford sporter with bum .303 bore and that reamer.

Bill - This is what I posted here: http://forums.accuratereloadin...2511043/m/3551074422

Of course, the .375 FL Magnum will get even more velocity, especially with powders fast enough to burn up in the 22" barrel are used.


The velocities may not seem very high but you have to remember that they were shot out of a 22" barrel. You'd have to add about 32 fps for a 24" barrel and about 68 fps for a 26" barrel.

CAUTION: These loads exceed the CIP standard of 31,908 psi for .375FL NE 2-1/2" cartridge. Use only in modern rifles designed for high pressure cartridges. These loads produced the listed velocities and pressures in the test rifle. Results in other rifles may be different. Follow safe reloading practices.

WARNING: These are high pressure loads. Do Not use these loads in guns and rifles originally manufactured for and/or proofed for standard velocity .375 FL NE 2-12". Disregarding this warning may result in damage to your rifle and serious injury or death of you or others.

Conditions:

Ruger No. 3 rechambered from .375 Winchester to .375FL NE 2-1/2"

Barrel length 22"

Pressures taken with RSI strain gauge, W-R ammo used as reference

Temperature was 57 degrees F

Elevation 450' ASL

Loads using 300gr old style Winchester Silvertip.
All bullets were seated to lock into the outer crimp ring. Cartridge OAL 3.21".

49.5 grains of RE-17 -- 1,943 fps, 41,820 psi

51.0 grains of RE-17 -- 2,062 fps, 45,501 psi

52.4 grains of RE-17 -- 2,091 fps, 46,591 psi (compressed load)


Loads using 320gr custom rounded tip bullet, .030" jacket for low velocity expansion. This bullet is very similar to the original 320 grain bullets made for this caliber. Bullet length is 1.275" (almost the same as the Silvertips). Cartridge OAL 3.21"

36.5 grains of IMR 3031 -- 1,680 fps, 34,922 psi

40.7 grains of IMR 3031 -- 1,847 fps, 40,391 psi

49.5 grains of RE-17 -- 1,918 fps, 41,835 psi

51.0 grains of RE-17 -- 1,928 fps, 42,117 psi

52.4 grains of RE-17 -- 1,954 fps, 44,652 psi (compressed load)

The Ruger can take more pressure but I was getting all the power I needed.

Bill, you have inspired me to work up some more loads. I have several different bullets including 235 grain Speer, some 270 grain, and various North Fork, among others.

.

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Originally posted by Fjold:
Interesting, I've been considering converting a Ruger No 3 in 30-40 Krag to 300 H&H using the Ruger No. 1 stock set. Everyone is telling me not to do it though because the 30-40 Krag is a rare chambering and my No. 3 is in really great shape.

Well, Frank, you can hold on to your Ruger No. 3 in .30-40 for another 50 years and it will appreciate at about the rate of inflation and still have plastic parts,

OR..........

Before having it built as a double rifle, when I was experimenting with my wildcat .450 C&W, which uses the .375 H&H Flanged Magnum as a parent cartridge, I used an original Winchester 1885 High Wall as a test platform. With the original stock, shooting it was pretty punishing, but I easily achieved .450 Watts performance with it. However, once my experiments were completed, I returned the High Wall action to its original caliber, rather than continuing to punish myself with that potent cartridge.

The Ruger No.3 weighs about 7-1/2 lbs. Add bases, rings, and a scope and that takes it to around 8-1/2 lbs. That weight would be just right for converting a .30-40 No.3 to .300 H&H or .300 FL Mag. Some might consider it a little on the light side if it were a .375 Winchester No.3 converted to .375 H&H but there are plenty of people shooting .375 H&H rifles that weigh less.

I don't think Ruger made any No.1s in any calibers suitable for rechambering to .375 FL Mag. That would be a barreling job. In that instance, the barrel length and contour could be specified to end up weighing as much or as little as the shooter wants. Ruger already had some success with No.1s in .375 H&H. I don't think weight would be something to worry about.