I'm loading up some ammo for a user connected with Scouts here, that is wanting to use his dad's 30/06...( who recently passed away)...

he wants to use 150 grain Bullets...

my experience is usually with 165 to 220 grainers in the 06...

which of the 30 cal 150 grainers ( Soft Points) would you guys pick?

local available choices are
Hornady
Sierra
Speer
Rem Corelokt

thanks in advance for everyone's input...

Nosler 150 grs BT have always shot well for me.

Of the bullets you mention, I only have experience with the Rem CLs, and I rarely achieved outstanding accuracy with those. YMMV...

- mike

the main three i use are bts seirras and ww power points. The bts and sierras usually shoot the best but the ww hold together a bit better and have shot real good also.

My favorite was the 150 gr. Speer Hotcor on top of 57.5 grs. of IMR 4350.

I use both Rem corelocts and Hornadys in 150gr in the 308 win. Perfectly acceptable deer accuracy with both and maybe a slight advantage to the Hornady. As far as internal damage done..............Advantage Hornady!

The great bwana says go with the Hornady Interlocks.

hornady's do just fine.
if it's for the boy's, why not reduce the load some?
if it's for hunting, target the 2800 range and the interlocks will do the job as they are supposed to.

I have seen more one shot kills on pigs and deers with Factory Remington 150 gr CoreLokt ammo than with any other bullet in the 30-06.

They just work...as easy as that.

L

My first question would be, What are ya killing?

For deer, the Nosler BT's and Sierra GK's are good choices.

For elk, 150gr Nosler AB or Partition. The 150gr bullet will help control the recoil for them, but I would still try to keep the velocity up around 3k.

IMO the 30.06 really shines in the 150-180gr bullet range. If you want to go heavier then that, it's time to step up to a .338 WM.

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Originally posted by seafire/B17G:
I'm loading up some ammo for a user connected with Scouts here, that is wanting to use his dad's 30/06...( who recently passed away)...

he wants to use 150 grain Bullets...

my experience is usually with 165 to 220 grainers in the 06...

which of the 30 cal 150 grainers ( Soft Points) would you guys pick?

local available choices are
Hornady
Sierra
Speer
Rem Corelokt

thanks in advance for everyone's input...

How could anyone answer this "properly" without knowing what he will use the rifle/bullet for??

DM

I have used the Sierra, Hornady and Remington 150s. I personally like the Hornady's best. There is nothing in Oregon that can't be taken cleanly with any of them.

depends on what he's hunting. But since you mention a 150 non premium I will assume it is for nothing too big.

I'd go with a 150 NBT and load it slow with a minimum charge of IMR4064. That bullet will open rapidly and works well with medium/slow velocities. Get groups inside of 5 inches to 250 yards and he's good to go.

Assuming deer or pigs, 150gr core lokt. (that said, I've never shot a single 150gr bullet thru a 30-06s but I've killed a whole lot with the 165gr core lokt)

Seafire,I have used the Hornaday,Speer,Nosler solid base and theRem cor-lokt.They will all get the job done real well.
I have loaded them in a 300 sav to the 300win mag and when shot at a reasonable speed they will work in each.
Some folks must have some real tough deer and hogs these days.
Good Luck

Speer MAG TIPS... are tougher than average.

the nosler BT is a really accurate bullet, just to fragile IMO for use on game

Before the Cal lead ban, I used to shoot Speer 150's. They worked fine on deer and pigs.

Another vote for the Hornady spire point, accurate, tough, and pretty inexpensive...

well as far as expense goes, the best cheap bullets for your money that will work well would either be the remmy corelokt or winchester pp. They're just not fancy enough for me! (even though they work just fine).

I am assuming this is for deer. I always liked the 150 grain bullet in the 06. I love the NBT but that is not on your list. So I vote Sierra GameKing boat tailed soft point. I think it is one of the most accurate hunting bullets out there.

John, if it is for deer like you have around your place any of those bullets loaded between 2550 and 2650 fps.would work nicely.
45 grains of 3031 will do it. roger

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Another vote for the Hornady spire point,

Add me to that list.

any name brand hunting bullet will work for most everything in north america .. and cheap, too

I use Sierra 150 flat bases.. I have had Balistic tips pencile on deer so I avoid them.

150 hornady with 52.5 grains of 4064 has worked very well for me. I am sure the others would work just as good though.

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I have had Balistic tips pencile on deer so I avoid them.

What??

I'd be interested in the details on that.

seafire, any of the winchester, remington or speer bullets will work fine, as will the hornadys. i have used all of those in that weight for the .308 and .30/06 and they perform very well. i like the gameking bullet, but at .30/06 velocities it might be a crapshoot at short ranges.

try a few and see which ones perform well with a reliable load. my favorites for accuracy and performance were whatever federal uses in their plain, blue-box ammunition. i believe they are speers, but i do not know the exact bullet. otherwise, i like the remington corelokts and winchester power points.

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Originally posted by Antelope Sniper:

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I have had Balistic tips pencile on deer so I avoid them.

What??

I'd be interested in the details on that.

So would I.

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Originally posted by Donald Nelson:

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Originally posted by Antelope Sniper:

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I have had Balistic tips pencile on deer so I avoid them.

What??

I'd be interested in the details on that.

So would I.

Me too.....my experience with BTs are precisely the opposite....open quickly and destroy a lot of meat and may not get a lot of penetration....

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Originally posted by vapodog:

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Originally posted by Donald Nelson:

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Originally posted by Antelope Sniper:

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I have had Balistic tips pencile on deer so I avoid them.

What??

I'd be interested in the details on that.

So would I.

Me too.....my experience with BTs are precisely the opposite....open quickly and destroy a lot of meat and may not get a lot of penetration....

well, if you call EXPLODING "penciling" ....

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Originally posted by vapodog:

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Originally posted by Donald Nelson:

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Originally posted by Antelope Sniper:

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I have had Balistic tips pencile on deer so I avoid them.

What??

I'd be interested in the details on that.

So would I.

Me too.....my experience with BTs are precisely the opposite....open quickly and destroy a lot of meat and may not get a lot of penetration....

I have never had a BT not exit nor fail.

Gidday Seafire,

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Originally posted by JTPinTX:
150 hornady with 52.5 grains of 4064 has worked very well for me. I am sure the others would work just as good though.

This is just about exactly my load except I am at 53gr of 4064.

The hornandys drop big bull tahr and big red stags without an issue and it is mild recoiling but am getting 2870fps over the chronny.

My boys used this to take their first deer and neither are big lads.

All the best looking after those youngsters.

Happy Hunting

Hamish

John,

I've got a stash of 150 grain Remington Bronze Points which I load for the '06 Sprg. when 150's are required as like yourself I'm a sorta 165 gr. Kinda-Guy (Nosler Partition) for Go-To loads in the 30/06.

R-P Brass,
R-P LR Primers,
62.0 grs. of H-4350 (start 5% lower),
150 gr. Bronze Point &
Lee Factory Crimp Die at the top of the cannelure - Voilá.

I will lump bts and sierras in this same statement. Ive shot a truck load of deer doing crop damage with them. 150s in the o6 and 165s in the 300mag and have yet to have one fail. Just this year ive shot probably 20 deer with the 300mag at ranges from a 100-400 yards and have yet to see one not die. There reputation for destroying meat is overated. Hit one right in the shoulder and your going to throw away the shoulders but that statement goes for about any bullet out of a 243 or bigger rifle. Personaly i see very little difference between the wound channel of a bt and a partition or any other premium bullet on deer. Step up to 500lb animals and the extra penetration of a premium bullet may help but i doubt any elk is going to walk away from a proper hit with a bt or sierra. Just in the last week ive killed 7 deer with the 300 mag using 165 bts and there all in the freezer! As a matter of fact i do crop damage shooting with 2 other guys and they fight over my 300 mag loaded with 165bts. Its tack driving accurate and it puts down deer like theres no tommarow. I havent yet had the opportunity to shoot anything larger then deer with it but i wouldnt hesitate for a second to take that same gun and load and go on a trophy elk or moose hunt. Personaly i think this whole craze over using premium bullets is something that the bullet manufactures dreamed up and pushed on to gullable shooters to make money. Its very simualar to the short mag deal. they get a bunch of well known gun writers to tell everyone that there so much better then the standard things that have worked well for years and guys stand in line to buy them. 30 years ago guys were killing elk by the truck load with 270s using cup and core 130s that werent near as good as the cup and core bullets you can buy today. Spend your money as you like but personaly im not spending 50 bucks on a box of 50 premimum bullets that probaly arent going ot be as accurate as the 150 cup and core bullets i can buy for the same price. Maybe if deer started walking away after being hit by one but i doubt thats going to ever happen. Like was said the trick to it all is putting the bullet where it belongs and NO premium bullet is going to make up for poor marksmanship.

I have to agree completely with Lloyd on several items. First, the C&C bullets will work great for ANYTHING in Oregon, whether it is deer, elk, bear, moose, I don't care. I have never heard a complaint from anyone using any of the factory rounds that use those bullets. Put it where it belongs and it will work.

I also agree about the premium bullets being hype. I refuse to pay $1 per factory ROUND, let alone per bullet. I actually applaud Sierra for not jumping on that bandwagon, although I wish they would make an unleaded bullet for those that require it (even if I don't require it). If I want to try the more expensive bullets, I wait until someone has a sale, find them for sale here, or buy them as blems. This means No, I do not have any Barnes bullets, No, I do not have any Swift bullets, No, I do not have any Northforks either. Do I feel unprepared...Nope. Heck, I even buy the Sierra seconds from the factory when I can get there.

The reason I said Hornady is I think they are the best bullet for the money. $21 per 100 in the Interlok isn't bad and it is a great bullet.

John,

The WW 150gr PP is all me and my son use here in the -06....all one shot kills and bullet holds up great...accuracy good too...

I've used the cheap Remington corelokts in factory ammunition to shoot several animals with my 30-06. Have worked great so far on animals up to and including oryx. I've also used the cheap Federal ammunition in the blue box, results in a hunting situation have also been excellent.

Rem Coreloks and Win Power points were the original "premium" bullets which many either forgot or don't know. They have always worked for me AS THEY WERE DESIGNED TO WORK!!!! which is a bit different than what todays "premium" bullets are designed to work.

The only accuracy problems I've had with Rems is buying then from Midway...they must be seconds or thirds or whatever...but all you need to do is weigh and ogive separate and the accuracy is as good as Nosler BT's which are the standards as far as accuracy is concened...and very uniform as to the weights and ogive. They might "Pencil" in a rabbit or other small game in the larger calibers and higher velocities but in game they were designed to hunt I have never lost an aminal or had one run very far after being hit in a correct manor and location. Shoot a deer/antelope in the lower gut and you might loose it, tho'.

I don't know why anyone would want a 150gr in an '06 tho'...the 180 has a much better BC and tragectory even if it starts out a bit slower, and the 165gr runs a very close second even in the energy department. Less meat destruction I think and I like to eat right up to the hole, not blow a gob of tasty meat out for the birds and squirrels, they get the gut pile as it is.

Rems and Wins might not give that advertizing "picture perfect" mushroom but they do their job exceedingly well. Even the "out of spec" ones give minute of deer accuracy IF the hunter does his work developing a load prior to the season.

Luck

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Originally posted by DM:

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Originally posted by seafire/B17G:
I'm loading up some ammo for a user connected with Scouts here, that is wanting to use his dad's 30/06...( who recently passed away)...

he wants to use 150 grain Bullets...

my experience is usually with 165 to 220 grainers in the 06...

which of the 30 cal 150 grainers ( Soft Points) would you guys pick?

local available choices are
Hornady
Sierra
Speer
Rem Corelokt

thanks in advance for everyone's input...

How could anyone answer this "properly" without knowing what he will use the rifle/bullet for??

DM

my apologies.. I assumed for deer would have been obvious.. evidently not, so my bad..

Oregon Blacktails.. 80 to 120 lbs on average..
antelope sized..

I use the 165gr flavor, but these should work great.
http://www.grafs.com/retail/ca...duct/productId/12613
They give great results on Whitetail. I buy them in 500 count lots.

BTW, price includes shipping.