I would say no, GSP7, but my .300 Win will shoot 200 gr bullets much more effectively, which is a caliber/bullet combo I like to use for elk. But I agree with you on how great a .308 is for deer.
just put a 38" barrel on it,...and then it will build the speed it needs to kill that deer. If I were to guess,..I wouldn't trust a short barreled 308 much past 150yds on anything but a groundhog
Posts: 1496 | Location: behind the crosshairs | Registered: 01 August 2002
Here is a really good article on bullet power. http://www.steyrscout.org/power.htm At the bottom of this page is a link "Back to Fr. Frog's Home Page". Check it out - a good site.
A .308 is plenty of rifle for most all game in the US. It will not bounce off a deer at 200 yds. Be sure you are using a game bullet and you should never have a problem dropping deer or just about anyother game.
Posts: 257 | Location: Torrance, Ca | Registered: 02 July 2002
I have hunted with and tested all of these rounds and the 308 is excellent for deer sized game. If you are a handloader, the 300 WSM is more flexible, as it retains excellent accuracy with reduced loads and can step up to cross canyon and plains hunting with little strain and moderate recoil.
Posts: 1111 | Location: Afton, VA | Registered: 31 May 2003
GSP7: You suffer from the same illness as I, namely inferiority complex. When I got my Remington 700 Safari in 458 Win Mag last year, I thought it was gonna be a real thumper and waaaay cool.
Today I realize that anyone without a 458 Lott is a whimp (that would be me), although I personally consider the Lott a whimp as well, the 460 is the real thumper!
So, the 308 Win must be considered a 458 Win Mag, while the 30-06 is a 458 Lott, and the 300 Win Mag / Weatherby is the 460 Weatherby.
Simple as that...
Posts: 209 | Location: Sweden | Registered: 30 October 2003
Exapit... Na , no inferiority complex here. I got a killer deal on this 1953 m 70 featherwieght that just happened to be a 308. Hell, its a nice rifle and studying the ballistics it isnt to much slower than a 06 , 200 fps max with a given load and some loads pretty close behind a 06. Im loading up some reloader 15 with some 165 gr and 180 gr noslers. should make a mice pig and deer gun, elk too.
My lightest big game rifle is a .308 and I love that caliber...I also have and use a 30-06 and a 300 H&H..They each have their place..If I had to give two of them up and keep one, then I would keep the 300 H&H...
Posts: 42230 | Location: Twin Falls, Idaho | Registered: 04 June 2000
Quote: My lightest big game rifle is a .308 and I love that caliber...I also have and use a 30-06 and a 300 H&H..They each have their place..If I had to give two of them up and keep one, then I would keep the 300 H&H...
Hey Ray, After reading all the things you've wrote about the 300H&H since I've been here, Well, I had to have one. I hold you personally responsible for making me purchase another rifle.
I've now owned all the US factory .30 offerings and I agree, The 300H&H is tops in my book too. I consider the cash paid to put mine together was well spent.
I was in diapers when the .300WinMag came out, but for the life of me I can't figure out how it displaced this fine cartridge.
Terry
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Posts: 6315 | Location: Mississippi | Registered: 18 May 2002
I know a gentlman who chooses the .300 H&H for black bear. He swears to everything holy that it is the Chosen Cartridge. He loads it to hot .30-06 specs, that keeps the pressure down, and the taper makes it easy to feed. Just the ticket with 200gr. Partitions on blackies, especially when they decide to fight back.
I'm a .300 Win Mag guy myself, so the debate continues. Happy shooting! The rifle looks fantastic!
Hey GSP7, yea it's a newer M-70 classic that's been rebarreled. It started as a 7mag. My smith put a Shilen#3 barrel on it and a set of Dakota sights. The only thing needed besides the barrel is to cut the bolt stop back a little and remove the magazine spacer.
Terry
Posts: 6315 | Location: Mississippi | Registered: 18 May 2002
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