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Sighting-in of your rifle on the range is so much easier and reliable when you are using a high quality bench rest.

The next bit clearly shows that.

Test results: Light, cheaper bench rest compared to Tolf Mk I over 100 meters -



• Shots marked 1, 2 & 3 were fired from the light, cheaper (by about R300) bench rest. Due to the fact that this incompetent bench rest was dancing around with each shot, no telescope adjustments were made after the shot - rifle already sighted-in properly previously.

• Shots marked 4, 5 & 6 were fired from the very steady Tolf Mk I.
After shot number 5 telescope adjustments were made: half an inch left and one inch down.

Just look at that almost perfect shot number 6 below!



(Here you can clearly see the two shots 4 & 5 almost in one hole!)

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With a handle like yours, I fully agree with you dancing

And here is the confirmation of that Eeker


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Posts: 654 | Location: RSA, Mpumalanga, Witbank. | Registered: 21 April 2005Reply With Quote
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It must be as shootaway's banner says. None of the benchrest shooters, that I know, are using good quality rests. They use rolled up blankets and sand bags. If only this were true. I'd have a better chance of winning.
 
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The specific bench rest I'm referring to is one that you would use to sight-in your hunting rifle.

Not intended as a rest for bench rest target shooters taking part in competion shooting.

Sorry for the apparent misunderstanding here, but in this context a good quality rest makes life just that much easier and your shooting out in the field that much more accurate with a well sighted-in rifle.


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Jagter, how can you get one of those bench rests to me in Botswana?
 
Posts: 58 | Location: Botswana - RSA - Namibia | Registered: 29 October 2005Reply With Quote
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Jagter, Tounge in cheek man, tounge in cheek.
 
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Gecko, I can have one delivered to my brother in Ellisras by this weekend. That's only a hop, a skip and a jump away from Botswana. My brother's father-in-law does drilling work in Botswana and with the necessary arrangements you could have it within 2 to 3 week's time.

All that via the SAfrican bush tranportation system - not bad at all, hey?

Check your PM.


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Thanks Jagter, received the Tolf MkI on Friday, 29 March.
A very tough structured piece of equipment.

Will test over Easter weekend.
 
Posts: 58 | Location: Botswana - RSA - Namibia | Registered: 29 October 2005Reply With Quote
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Well, their is a new light weight rest out by Sinclair that seems interesting.
 
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I agree. You have to remove the humane error while working up loads.
 
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Is this a portable bench to tote around with you? FWIW, if I couldn't shoot a better group than 1-2-3 from a rolled up coat acrost a truck hood, I'd quit hunting.
 
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Why tote it around. Most of my sight in and working up loads is at the range. I keep the rest in the back of my pick-up. Out in the field a man uses whatever he has. A good range rest for sight in will save you time and lots of ammo. It has nothing to do with you you can or can't shoot. If I am testing loads, the load is all I am interested in not field shooting skills.
 
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jagter your spot on man!!!!many people don't know what a good front rest is let alone a good back rest also..heavy rests stay putski, heck post us a picture, regards jjmp
 
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BearHunter 62 & jjmp -

Visit this web page for photos.

The secret about this specific bench rest lies in the fact that the full recoil is absorbed by the integrated shock absorber.
Resulting in no shoulder support being required (human factor removed) and also that the rest itself doesn't shift around on the shooting table after each shot fired.

That allows one to make your scope adjustments as perfect as possible - rifle stays in one position after each shot.


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Good looking rest.
 
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nicely done and thought out thanks for posting regards jjmp
 
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The best bench rest we ever had to do sighting in on hunting rifles.

Fully absorbed the recoil of 375H&H Magnum with no shoulder support required and not the slightest movement of the rest on the shooting table.

Thanks for a well designed product, Jagter and hunting friends.
 
Posts: 58 | Location: Botswana - RSA - Namibia | Registered: 29 October 2005Reply With Quote
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It is nicer than what I put together in my garage. But for about 2 hours and under 20 bucks, my heavy stand works pretty good. The front has no padding yet, so I just fold up a hand towel. Also need to fix up some tie down velcro straps. The rear hold is just spring steel with rubber hose. I haven't posted pictures here, hope this works.
 
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Originally posted by shootaway:
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Shootaway what is BS??


"Science only goes so far then God takes over."
 
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I 've been shooting for some years off sand bags and with low powered scopes and got constant 5 shot one hole groups at 200 yds.You don't need an expensive rest to get good groups or world record accuracy.The bags fall off between shots and I put them back up or the rifle shoots from different angles between shots and all this has no effect on accuracy.Provided I shoot from a solid bench I will probably get the same groups from all kinds of rests,cheap or good.I would go with an expensive rest for the comfort of not having to deal with all the sand bags,rest corrections etc...or for the easy operation it provides.
 
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"constant 5 shot one hole groups at 200 yds off sandbags with low powered scopes".....sounds like you should be out there competing with the best benchresters in the world. Where's that BS flag???
 
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When I go out ground squirrel shooting..I put a bipod on the front of the rifle, and then put benchrest stand under the magazine box in front of the trigger.....

It is pretty darn stable....

Last weekend, I impressed my self, when with that set up, I saw a ground squirrel's head out of a hole way out there...I cranked the scope up to about 12 power and put the dot reticle right between his eyes and squeezed the trigger..

Not only did he go flying up into the air, he was flopping around the ground like a fish, so I knew it had been a brain shot... I walked out to get him, and when I got to the carcass, the left eye, and the left head where gone...

I paced it off to be 245 paces back to my vehicle where I was shooting with the described rest and my rifle off the hood of my 4Runner...

That just give you the confidence that you are out there with the right stuff...

Rifle was a Rem 700 VLS in 223, scope was a Tasco ( yeah, I know Roll Eyes)...5 x 20 x 50mm....Load was 13.5 grains of Blue Dot, 55 grain SPSX, WSR primer...

the equipment was more up to it than the shooter.. but for once, I didn't let the equipment down... clap
 
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kraky,that would be too boring of an undertaking.If I did compete, I would no doubt break all world records.At the moment I am trying to practice my 300yd offhand shooting.
 
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I would think the point of impact would change when shooting in the field with a rest like that.
Sand bags work great for me.
Typicaly I use a lead sled to get the gun on target then shoot for groups off bags.
Short of the ultra expensive bench rest style rests I believe most of these contraptions shoot worse than a good set of bags.
 
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I would no doubt break all world records.


Not a chance.
 
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ireload2,

he's a legend in his own mind...
Besides, who wants all that fame and fortune and hot groupies hanging around your singlewide all the time?

Rich
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Visit the Tolf MkI website for full details on this unique sighting-in bench rest.


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