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Honestly, the latest and greatest advancement in firearms that are available to the civilian world is the 408 Cheytec Intervention rifle with all the bells and whistles with there ballistics software and the ability to train everyday shooters into 2500m marksmen. This is of course all available if you have the coin to play that particular game. Lets rewind not too long ago when the 50BMG in the M82 platform was introduced to the military world. Everyone and there mother though this weapon was all that is short of god. And in reality at the time it did dominate everything thrown at it. It survived harsh desert climates burried in sand and still set a world record kill at over 2000m. But as we all know too well, records are meant to be broken and recently the bar has been set even higher by a motivated marksman and his 338 Lapua! Now the 50BMG is easily buyable on the civilian market, along with the Cheytec. Of course you gotta pay to play once again. My particular interest is the possible new round that we will be using which is the 6.8, of course it will be based right off the M-4 rifle we have right now in the NATO 5.56 or .223. The 6.8 really impresses me on how it stacks up to the AK47 7.62 round, and it far dominates the .223, I think the major delay right now is just getting enough weapons to be able to actually issue them for use. Now just imagine what will happen in the future once the Cheytec get more battlefield time. Its limits will be pushed, and the rifle marksman will set an even more staggering record. What is next? hard to say, I have seen some stuff thats been played with. I have friends in high places and a few with just the right kind of jobs that lets me know about certain things. Also my job allows me to see certain things and testing that other do not. As of right now we have technology that will guide a 2000lb bomb into a terrorist front door if they want it too, how long do you think it will be before this technology gets smaller? Everyone knows technology gets smaller, and trust me its getting smaller. | |||
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The Hornady loads are duplex loads. The amazing thing is the amount of work need to get a load to work for each bullet combination. American Rifleman had a good write up on the Superformance ammo a few months ago. | |||
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Very interesting, but will self guided bullets be allowed for deer?  | |||
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Ok agreed but is advancement in machining methods that allows cost effective production of existing technology really technological advancement? I would say no. Example: Look at all the Pre-64 and Mauser 98 clones on the market today. Reason is affordability of CNC machines. Is that technological advancement as it pertains to firearms? Perhaps this discussion should include advancements in machining and manufacturing that bring increased choices and better quality to the firearms industry not just advancements to the final product. Howard Moses Lake, Washington USA hwhomes@outlook.com | |||
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I believe the CNC and related technologies are one of the biggest advancements for firearms - The problem is that US manufacturers are not useing the new manufacturing methods to make better and higher quality firearms. They are using the new effiecent technology to make thier cheap guns even cheaper. A some may not like the design choices Blaser, Merkel, Sauer have made. But at least they are showing some origionality in design, and are making a high quality rifle where meeting an under $1000.oo retail price point is not the main design criteria! . | |||
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The largest gain was made with the rifled barrel and a primer. | |||
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There is room for improvement still. I would like to see a sliding type Sako-style safety for Mausers and model 70's, that will lock the firing pin. Haven't found this yet. Charlie's listening! | |||
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I was talking to a guy who was involved in a gun design project. They did a patent search. Every patentable idea expired because nothing significant has been patented since the 1890’s. Something like that. And I can believe it. We are using the same propellants that Teddy Roosevelt used. Today’s propellants are better, but it still is nitroglycerin and nitrocellulose. Nothing revolutionary. The closest thing to revolutionary was the case less ammunition of the 80s. And that was not a large enough improvement to justify replacing brass cased ammunition. Materials have made things lighter, manufacturing has improved. Shill gunwriters would have you believe the universe was created new in every article they write, but really, nothing fundamental. Refinement, tinkering around the edges. | |||
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Only thing I can brain storm at this moment would be a gun that would launch a suitable bullet fast enough by an electro-magnetic field. I also wonder if the above was possible, would shooters rush out and buy one. The caseless ammo mentioned by slamfire never caught on and also the electronic ignition by Remington. Do anyone on the forum have any experience with Rem's electronic ignition? Joe A. | |||
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There will probably be improvement on barrels, scopes, triggers, safeties, rings, stocks, cartridges, powders, and metals. When it comes to actions though, there is no improvement over a Mauser 98. ____________________________ If you died tomorrow, what would you have done today ... 2018 Zimbabwe - Tuskless w/ Nengasha Safaris 2011 Mozambique - Buffalo w/ Mashambanzou Safaris | |||
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if these were REMOTELY true, we'd never see trigger replacements, spring improvements, 3 position safeties, bottom metal replacements, bolt handle changes, or extractor mods to allow for closing over a round just dropped in the chamber, surface grinding, hump removal, or thumb cut/no thumbcut, and, of course, feeding from a stripper clip, not to even mention the 2000 ways to mount a scope, including intregal bridges .. In short, BULL, unless you are hunting an issue 98 or variant, you are NOT using a m98 as designed by the mauser brothers. opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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