https://www.gunbroker.com/item/766387583
Couldn't pass this up! Anyone use/load for 9x57?

Must be nice to be rich. I wouldn't pay $1250.00 for that rifle.

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Originally posted by ar corey:
Must be nice to be rich. I wouldn't pay $1250.00 for that rifle.

Yes it is "nice" to be rich. I really don't give a tinkers damn what you would pay you freakin nut! Why don't you go outside and get some sun and fresh air, it's spring now.

That rifle is garbage.

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Originally posted by ar corey:
That rifle is garbage.

How do you figure?

ismith, time to avail yourself of the IGNORE function :-)_

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Originally posted by Biebs:
ismith, time to avail yourself of the IGNORE function :-)_

Some people are not worth a response.

Well, I won't miss the random garbage posts that plague the medium bore subforum.

I like that rifle. Let us know how it shoots.

Very nice Mauser!

Beautiful rifle, ismith! Barring some sort of hidden flaw, you certainly got your money's worth. An original Mauser sporter would be a wonderful acquisition.

That being said, I went the less expensive route and built my own 9X57 using a 0.358" barrel. Not a true 9mm bore, but there are examples of the originals having bores that big. It allows me to use our 35 caliber bullets. I have developed loads using 250 gr Hornady RNs and cast bullets of about the same weight. So far, the only deer taken was with the Hornady.

Once you get your rifle, your first move should be to slug the bore and determine exactly what you have to deal with. If it is close to .358, I'll be happy to share my load development info with you. I also suggest you show your new prize over on the German Gun Collectors Forum and ask them for input on exactly what you have and suggestions on load data. They are very knowledgeable and a great bunch of guys on top of that. That's not to say the same information cannot be found on this great forum as well, but the GCCA is another good source.

a model B for under 2k, in a cool cartridge?
You got a steal --

it's interesting to read when the know-nots chime in

cart is grossly underloaded, per spec -- you MIGHT consider .358 bullets ..

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Originally posted by ar corey:
Must be nice to be rich. I wouldn't pay $1250.00 for that rifle.

You are right, you wouldn't -- in a normal, non-auction, that's 2K to even look at it -

i don't expect that's the answer you had in mind

That's a darned nice looking old gun. When did this ar corey guy go off the rails anyway?

yours is a classic!!!. interested to see how it shoots... ive got 2 9.3x57's...both commercial guns from the mid 1930's...

Thanks for all the info guys! Seemed like too good a deal to pass up. Took the elk in my avatar with an old 9.5x57, might have to take this one out and kill a bull with it.

Might have to???......I sincerely hope that you will!

These old classics NEED TO BE USED. Shame on anyone that just puts them on the shelf to look at.

Nice Mannlicher Schoenauer, too. Just obtained a 1903 2-3 months ago and am really impressed with it. It will be my main go-to rifle this Fall.

I think you did well! I have a 9x56 MS and use a Lee push through size die to swage down .358 Hornady RN bullets, very easy.
The 200 grain and 250 Hornadys shoot well but when I tried Serrias the group size doubled, I have no clue why.

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Originally posted by Hook:
Might have to???......I sincerely hope that you will!

These old classics NEED TO BE USED. Shame on anyone that just puts them on the shelf to look at.

Nice Mannlicher Schoenauer, too. Just obtained a 1903 2-3 months ago and am really impressed with it. It will be my main go-to rifle this Fall.

Yes she will get hunted. Thanks, It is actually a London proofed no-name Mauser with a 28 inch barrel marked "375 Rimless". 7 1/2 lbs, a dream to carry and handles like a shotgun.

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Originally posted by rglenz:
I think you did well! I have a 9x56 MS and use a Lee push through size die to swage down .358 Hornady RN bullets, very easy.
The 200 grain and 250 Hornadys shoot well but when I tried Serrias the group size doubled, I have no clue why.

Thanks, I may have to try that.

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Originally posted by ismith:

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Originally posted by rglenz:
I think you did well! I have a 9x56 MS and use a Lee push through size die to swage down .358 Hornady RN bullets, very easy.
The 200 grain and 250 Hornadys shoot well but when I tried Serrias the group size doubled, I have no clue why.

Thanks, I may have to try that.

Nice rifle you picked up. Slug your bore and do a chamber cast. I have two 9x57's both with .356 bores. Both have chamber necks large enough to accommodate a .358" bullet seated in the case neck. I shoot the Hornady 200 RN and 250 RN and never had an issue. It is a fun rifle/cartridge combo.

I agree that was a nice find.....wish I would have seen it.

That is very nice rifle !
And While i am not rich , i am quite ways from poor ! largely cause i know a good investment when i see one ! Unless you club a deserving fool over the head with it , and break the stock or something. I would be extremely confident you would have no trouble getting your money back on that purchase, and likely a little profit both in dollars and enjoyment ! ...tj3006

Whoa! If the rifle is as described: "It is actually a London proofed no-name Mauser with a 28 inch barrel marked "375 Rimless".", it is not a 9x57 but a 9.5x57 Mauser, aka 9.5x57 Mannlicher-Schoenauer. The 9x57 was called the .355 Mauser. If the above "375" was a typo, and it is a .355, do as suggested by others and slug the bore. My circa 1925 vintage Oberndorf Type C with original barrel (but a much less attractive '60s vintage replacement stock) slugged .359" groove diameter. It works well with 250 gr. Hornady RNSPs and Varget.

Cheers, Al

I like it a lot. I'm also of the opinion that there is a village out there that is missing its idiot.

Lee

Congrats! I am jealous. A true HUNTING rifle.

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Originally posted by ClassicAl:
Whoa! If the rifle is as described: "It is actually a London proofed no-name Mauser with a 28 inch barrel marked "375 Rimless".", it is not a 9x57 but a 9.5x57 Mauser, aka 9.5x57 Mannlicher-Schoenauer. The 9x57 was called the .355 Mauser. If the above "375" was a typo, and it is a .355, do as suggested by others and slug the bore. My circa 1925 vintage Oberndorf Type C with original barrel (but a much less attractive '60s vintage replacement stock) slugged .359" groove diameter. It works well with 250 gr. Hornady RNSPs and Varget.

Cheers, Al

Sorry for the confusion Al, I was describing the soon to be safe mate of the Oberndorf 9x57.

I hunted with it last year and took this bull.

Nice elk!

No problem ismith. Just that there seems to be a lot of confusion on-line between the 9x57, 9.3x57, and 9.5x57, with some people apparently believing that they are just different names for the same round!

BTW, I like the safe mate, too. It's a beauty.

Cheers, Al

I have three Oberndorf 9X57's and took two white tails with one of them last deer season. I have always had a weakness for that cartridge and its American cousin, the .358 Winchester.

This is my Westley Richards 9X57, built on a pre- World War I Oberndorf action, fitted with a Lyman 35 receiver sight and restored by Lon Paul:

Good grief....these rifles are getting to me big time! I thought your 9.5 was a M-S because I couldn't see it in the avatar well enough. Pretty cool looking Mauser. Love that long barrel and love the fact that you're hunting with it as it should be.

We're looking forward to updates on your 9X57 when you get it.

Really nice TypeB and quite a deal.
I for sure would have bought that one!

I once had a scoped TypeB in 9x57 and still have a few boxes of Kynoch ammunition.
PM me if you are interested in it.

I'm really getting into these older Mauser type guns. I have been looking for and finally found an unmolested Husky `146 in 9.3x57. Was discussing the stock with another forum member here and I think these older guns were really well thought out pieces. When I shoulder that gun it comes up quite naturally for me. all of the buttstock sits in the shoulder pocket unlike a straight stocked American classic design which always leave a little of the stock above my shoulder.

Great find there!

hi..as a long time oberndorf collecter...I think you made a great buy..i had seen the rifle..and , if I hadn't been in the process of obtaining another kurz mauser, I sure would have bought it....

If it is really unmolested, you are very lucky.

The Huskey rifles in that caliber are notorious for their slim stock and low comb. They kick like a mule and the stock tends to crack at the tang. I had one about 20 years ago and put a laminated stock on it.

Many were rechambered to 9.3X62 and restocked.

Good solid rifles.

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Originally posted by bluefish:
I'm really getting into these older Mauser type guns. I have been looking for and finally found an unmolested Husky `146 in 9.3x57. Was discussing the stock with another forum member here and I think these older guns were really well thought out pieces. When I shoulder that gun it comes up quite naturally for me. all of the buttstock sits in the shoulder pocket unlike a straight stocked American classic design which always leave a little of the stock above my shoulder.

Great find there!

seems like the stock was made for iron sights. raise your head a touch and see the scope. fwiw, it fits very naturally. gotta find someone who will sell me 10 rounds of 9.3x57 so I can go shoot it. btw, I have never experienced a trigger like that; is that what the call a two stage military trigger?

Bluefish,
You'll really enjoy your Husky M146 in 9.3x57. I have one and shoot it a lot. It's easy to load for just buy some Remington or Hornady 8x57 mm brass and neck it up which is easy to do with Hornady dies. I'm getting 2400+ fps with IMR 4064 and 4320 using 285 gr. PRVI bullets.

Hip

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Originally posted by bluefish:
seems like the stock was made for iron sights. raise your head a touch and see the scope. fwiw, it fits very naturally. gotta find someone who will sell me 10 rounds of 9.3x57 so I can go shoot it. btw, I have never experienced a trigger like that; is that what the call a two stage military trigger?

I have some that I came with a 146 I picked up awhile back, but will be out of town for a month or so. I got some reloading dies with it as well if you're interested in those. Those Husky 146s with FN receivers should have military proof markings on them, under the bolt handle, on the trigger, follower, etc. The receiver I have sitting on my desk right now is from a Lithuanian contract rifle.

Just saw this thread....man, from what I know that was a good buy. I have two 9 X 57's, one in a Sauer & Sohn bolt and the other a 9 X 57R in a Franz Jaeger drilling. I have come to admire the cartridge and believe you'll like it. Well done.

I am curious. Is ar corey as full of bliss as he is ignorance?

You got a dandy!

I had a drilling in 9x57R.

I'm guessing the 57R may have been loaded to a lower pressure than the rimless, but I took some sort of amalgum of 356 win, 358 win and 9x57 loads from a Speer manual and Cartridges of the World and came up with a decent load. I used soft 250gr Hawk bullets. Brass came from necked up 8x57R using a Whelen expander ball.

Used it to take an antelope, a cow elk and a few deer. As you can imagine with its pedestrian speed and soft bullets, nothing came out the other side, but nothing walked more than a step.

You are REQUIRED to post pics of that awesome rifle with dead critters with fall!! Congratulations.