Ruger does seem to make a rugged reliable rifle but I cannot understand why a Remington action would be considered less reliable? It would be very cool if Ruger chambered their Hawkeye in 9.3 x 62 (personally the 375 Ruger seems a bit redundant to me and I don't need a huge heavy .375HH) but I have not read or seen any Remington action failures but maybe I am just naive?

Remington triggers are prone to freezing up. Likewise the flimsy extractor is put under more stress in sub zero weather.

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Remington triggers are prone to freezing up. Likewise the flimsy extractor is put under more stress in sub zero weather.

Mikelravy,

In my small hunting circle of friends and acquaintenances here in Alaska the rifles they carry are the following brands:

5 Winchesters
1 Browning
2 Savages

I myself use a Browning and recently a Weatherby and two of my old friends who no longer live up here shoot Rugers. Maybe my experiences are unique. Last weekend I went to the Cushman range in Fairbanks and spent a few hours shooting. I don't recall seeing a single Ruger bolt action rifle on the firing line. I did see one guy shooting a Ruger 10/22.

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Remington triggers are prone to freezing up. Likewise the flimsy extractor is put under more stress in sub zero weather.

Have yet to have a problem with either and here in November minus 40 is not a stretch and it can be colder.

Having worked on all three rifles and shot all three here is my take....

Remington's sole weakness is that the trigger can be adjusted to the point of being unsafe. Another minor point is that the trigger unit is not made from stainless components. The actions are made from hardened alloy steel, shoot well, and much can be dine to make a pencil barreled rifle shoot 1/2 to 3/4 MOA.

Brownings are good rifles, their weakness is the stock design is such that it makes recoil muxh more noticeable, they have very nice features though. The tang safety, box magazine clipped to the floor plate are really nice features. Accuracy is second to the remingtons as a general rule.

Rugers are strong rifles, the investment cast components aren't as nice finished as the other two. The safety is a good design that blcoks the firing pin independent of sear lockup and allows you to load and unload cartridges with the safety on or you can lock the bolt.

A lot can be said for the three, and they are all US made. Every rifle design has trade offs. Tikkas are good rifles, but the receiver design is one of the weakest in the industry and the barrel is threaded with metric theads; but, it is very fit and polish and shoots very well.

Enough of my Babbling, For out of the box rifle over $800 I would pick the Sako 75/85. Under $800 I would pick a Weatherby Vanguard and a Timney trigger.

John

Slight correction - the Remington and Ruger are indeed US made.

The Browning is made in Japan by Miroku.

I got a Ruger M77 (tang safety) for the cheap. I am going to make a .416 Taylor on it. It is currently a 7mm.

I am planning on putting it in a McMillian stock and make it my heavy thumper.

I have one of those and was considering the same idea. Let me know how it comes out.

I have a Ruger 77 and a Remington 700 Titanium. Both are fine guns, but if I had to choose one to protect me against something horrible, it would be the Ruger no doubt!

Low cost does not always equal inaccurate. I had a Ruger M77 chambered in 7mm RM that would shoot 1/2 MOA with decent handloads. After a dozen years of hard use for crop damage/ deer & groundhog control, the throat was shot out.

Most folks suggested a Remington 700 as the most accurate out of the box, moderate priced rifle. Since my wife was getting old, I thought dropping from 7mm RM to a 308 Winchester in a heavy barreled rifle would be easier on her 55+ year bones. Synthetic stock, aluminum bedding block. The stock had to be relieved from around the barrel; it actually came from Remington like that!It shoots much better, but the trigger felt gritty. ....looked like gouge marks on it! I was not happy with my purchase

From everything I read, my next rifle will be a Savage with their Accu-trigger. Besides lots of folks swearing by their out of box accuracy, the fact that you can switch barrels yourself, without resorting to a gunsmith, means you could use the factory tube for load testing, and have a second match grade barrel to hunt with those highly accurate loads you build.
Just my two cents worth.
Jim

I hunted with all Rem. Ruger and Browning hey would all work fine but you might have to fiddle some with the Ruger. I haven't tried their new trigger. I'd go Browning.

Peoples Republic of Maryland? Is that like being akin to the Peoples Republic of Chicago? If Richard J could see what his stupid ass kid is doing he would kick him square in the ass.

Of the three you listed, here is my take on them PERSONALLY:

Browning - Accuracy
Remington - Tweakability
Ruger - Rugged every day reliable tool.

Larry
That sums it up pretty well. I vote for the everyday durability.