Has anyone had experience with these two rifles and is willing to post a comparison. Any significant pros or cons for either?

I am looking for a medium bore - either a 9.3x62 or .375 and would welcome any info.

ONe close look at a 798, would make up your mind quickly...for the CZ.. without even looking at the 550.....

the 798 is worth about half of what Rem wants for it...

CZ hands down, regardless of price...

I have three CZ rifles. Sorry, no 798 to compare. My CZ's are the most accurate rifles out of the box that I have ever had the pleasure to shoot.
I have CZ 550 American in 9.3x62, 550FS in 6.5x55 and a 527 in 221 Fireball. The 9.3 and 221 will punch one hole groups all day long with the proper load. The FS is not quite as accurate, but still MOA or better.
The actions out of the box can be a little stiff, but that is an easy fix and a small price to pay for superb accuracy. The single set trigger is an excellent feature, so is the price.

In the group with which I shoot, there are 1, 17 Rem, 2, 221 Fireballs, 3, 223's, all in the CZ 527, and also we have a 550 in 243, and one in 375 H&H. They are all by far the best shooters out of the box, any of us have EVER had. From trigger to barrel crown they are an exceptional value. I also have no experience with the Rem 798.

Jerry

I looked at a 798 in 300 WM yesterday at Gander Mtn.. The action looked and felt like it was machined using a cold chisle and sledge hammer, man was I dissapointed. The CZ appeared to be much better made rifle. The 798 just looked junky ( thats a technical term I believe ).

Remington managed to take an OK Mauser knock-off down to the lowest common denominator. The Zastavas used to be really nice back in the day; too bad. The CZs are still well made production guns worth every penny, IMNSHO.

Is the Remington 798, the once Charles Dayle mauser, and were they that bad to.

6.5 SWEDE.

the Charles Daly guns were nicely fit and finished, especially for the price. Remington has taken the 798/799 and made them look like half the value for twice the price. Of course, they have the gall to set suggested retail on the 700's at over $900 on their website.

Rich
DRSS

I've seen two Remington 798s.....

Neither worth 1/10th the asking price!!!!

Even their M-700 is now far out of line in prce.

The earlier Zastava actions (Interarms Mk X, and Whitworth) were pretty good actions, straight, servicable, and decent bottom metal. The later ones started cheapening and bottom metal was less desirable and finish suffered some.

Then came KBI/Charles Daly who picked up where the old Mk X left off. However, they were far less straight, often over polished, and rough. I had several come through that had not one scope base hole drilled on center and at 0 degrees. The distance to the inner ring varied by as much as .003" In comparison I've never seen a military action vary by more than half that, even the Spanish made ones.

I'd go CZ and not look back.

i have a zastava in .308 when i got it it was the best i could afford and i have been very happy. it shoots everything well, but loves win power points, 150 and 180 grain, also in my price range.
i couldnt be more happy with it, it is a strong action and is well finished. very accurate. i have taken many pigs with it and even a buffaloo.
not long after you couldnt get them anymore as remington got there hands on them. i laughed when i saw the rrp was nearly twice the amount i had paid for mine.
i have a lot of faith in mine, never had a mis fire etc... i resently head shot a boar that i ranged at 380 mtrs.
my brother has the 550 cz in .308 to look at them they seem simaler in build quality but it was half again the price of mine and he dosnt like it as much as i do mine. it is also very accurate and dose have a slightly heaver barrel than mine but not any more accurate than the zastava.
sounds like the remington models are poorer quality than mine? i am in australia so i cant speak for what you have over there, maby the zastava factory produses various quality levels depending on price and rem are buying the dirt cheap models?
i would prefer to have the zastava, on my experence.
greg

I have a charles daly mauser and 2 cz rifles,a 452 and a 527.people often comment on how beautiful the czs are,and they are wonderfully accurate to boot.however the charles daly 30/06 prints 3 shot,3/4 " groups with about everything Ive shot through it.

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Originally posted by 6.5 SWEDE:
Is the Remington 798, the once Charles Dayle mauser, and were they that bad to.

No and no..
but yes...

the same basic action, but sold under contract OEM specifications to and through remington. the SPEC makes all the difference in the world

For example, they USED to be spec'ed to have an in the bow release, and are now pushbutton, ,as the contract specifed the type of release and finish, and tolerences...

its a sad day when one misses the daly "quality" vs remmington, but, that is OBVIOUS that the market didn't appreciate the deal, and it has gone the way of the legacy /global trading mauser.. too cheap for its own good

Thanks for the input. I have looked at the CZ Safari Magnum and the fit felt very good. I have been unable to find the Rem 798 so that's what prompted the question.

I think I will pick up the CZ. My brother and I are planning a trip for next year and I'd like to pair it with a matched 7x57 but they are hard to find. I'll probably get the same rifle in a .30-06 and use those.l

Do you guys really think they are far over priced?

They have them at Bass Pro for alittle over 400 with a scope(package deal). Sure, they may be sub par and I'm sure the scope is junk but, that seems pretty cheap for a wood stocked LA rifle. I think I'd advise someone to buy one before they bought the ridiculous piece of junk 710 package.

Reloader

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The earlier Zastava actions (Interarms Mk X, and Whitworth)

...don't forget herter's. my j9 in .308 is a very good rifle. i haven't seen the newer chas daly and now remington versions, but am sorry to hear that quality has fallen off so badly.

i also own a cz m550 in 7x57 (i chose it because of its similarity to the zastava) and this rifle has pretty much become my go-to rifle that i ahve the most confidence in. very well0built, very accurate and very nice all around. it looks like while remington was ruining the zastava, CZ was improving on their models and now give top bang for the buck.

While the one and only CZ I ever owned was far from a well built gun. I would still get in the CZ line if my choices were a CZ or 798. The damn shame of it all is Remington will stop selling these in a year or two and claim to the world "nobody wants a Mauser anymore"

Terry

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
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its a sad day when one misses the daly "quality" vs remmington, but, that is OBVIOUS that the market didn't appreciate the deal, and it has gone the way of the legacy /global trading mauser.. too cheap for its own good

What deal did the KBI present? I suppose if having the scope base holes drilled on center and straight is of no importance to you then yes, they may have been a good deal. Same goes for action trueness, if it's not important to you then they may have been a good value. They don't hold a candle to even the late production Mark X's whose only real flaws were cosmetic in nature.

I have to agree 100% with TC1's statement.

I have CZ's and I have the Charles Daly imported Zastava rifle and Zastava imported actions.

I like all of them. I think they're both good values. The stock fit on the Remington-imported rifles is pretty bad. The Charles Daly rifles I have are nicely finished, as are the CZ's. None of them cycle smoothly (they feed, they just don't slide easily up and down the raceways like a Model 70 or a 700). One of the CZ's, a Lux model, had some problems with the metal finish on the barrel.

One additional advantage the Charles Daly's had was that they were available in left-handed. The CZ's have a coned breech. The 798's have a C-ring breech. The CZ's have square bridges. Both have trigger safeties. Many of the CZ's have single set triggers.

Steve

The Charles Daly's, Mark X'x, Rem 798's, et al, have what some call an "H" ring not a "C" ring.

Rem721,

You're right: H-ring, not C-ring.

Hello,
If you are after a "mauser type..." long claw extractor, controlled round feed, positive mechanical ejection, reciever w/ intergal base/ring set up, buy yourself a Ruger 77 in about any caliber/style you can think of and for a bit more money have a rifle way ahead of the others out there today. You also get a set of steel rings w/ the rifle. Good Luck.

I too would choose the CZ over the Remington 98.. I have had 2 czs, and I chose to sell them both, not for quality issues , but both my 550 FS in 7X57 and 550 american in .243 were just to heavy for there purpose.
Both were very acurate. If I could find a 550 american in 9.3X62 I would probably buy it.
there is a 550 medium in 7 mag at a local store at a very good price, and I am tempted.
I would likly put a timney trigger in it as I see no need for a set trigger on a Big game rifle...tj3006

I think you will be way ahead to handle the Ruger Hawkeye chambered in .375 Ruger in either the African or Alaskan model before making a decision.

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The damn shame of it all is Remington will stop selling these in a year or two and claim to the world "nobody wants a Mauser anymore"

Seems like another blunder from Remington. Could their marketing people be really so much out of touch what Mauser-fans would want to buy and feel proud of?

Warrior

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Originally posted by JTEX:
I looked at a 798 in 300 WM yesterday at Gander Mtn.. The action looked and felt like it was machined using a cold chisle and sledge hammer, man was I dissapointed. The CZ appeared to be much better made rifle. The 798 just looked junky ( thats a technical term I believe ).

You forgot to mention that the stock look like it had been inletted by a blind beaver--

THIS IS THE PICTURE FROM REMINGTON'S SITE



Here is a picture of the 798's redone by my 'smith.

The stocks were sanded and redone with 5 coats of Tru-Oil and the fore-arm was cut and rounded-over to give it that more classic look that I desired.

The bolt-action & chamber were definitely rough. In fact, the smith had to give the chamber a once over with an over-sized bronze brush with a few twists and it was good!!! Some lapping compound on the action's raceways & 100 or so cyclings and all was smooth as butter!

The actions are glass-bedded and the barrels are free-floated.

The triggers have been re-worked and the tool marks were polished out for a crisp hunting trigger-pull of <4 lbs.

Both 30-06 & 7mm Rem Mag shoot sub-MOA and 1/2" groups are not difficult to come by if I do my part.

The wood to metal finish was not the greatest from the factory, as mentioned, but once everything was free-floated and bedded they looked "fit and finished"!

They look nothing like the day I first bought them.

The price I paid to get them to look and shoot the way they do was worth every penny to me, since I bought them at $595 a piece out the door.

If, you don't mind cleaning up a 798 a tad bit, they are awesome rifles. I'm planning on getting a few more.

Also, I own two brand new CZ 550's one an American 308 Win. & the other Full Stock 6.5x55mm Swede. Fit and finish are awesome on both the action/barrel/stock. Both of these are big time shooters as they shoot all day factory ammo into one ragged hole if I do my part.

Two weeks ago I picked up a CZ 550FS 7x57Mauser and I am really happy with it. The original owner bought it about a year ago and took it to the range only once and fired only 20 rounds through it. I am really happy with all these 798's and CZ's...I don't mind doing a little extra work to them to give them that more customized look on a budget...Soon I will be stripping my two Mannlicher style rifles and re-shaping and re-finishing my CZ American .308.




Good luck to all!

Thanks for the info and pics. You are a lucky guy to find the 7x57. I've been looking for one for some time.

For the .375 H&H I have picked up a Whitworth so the original reason for the comparison is moot at this point. I'm still looking for a 7x57 and if I don't find it by the time we have set up our Africa trip, I'll get a .30-06 - either a good Interarms mauser or the CZ.

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Originally posted by Oday450:
Thanks for the info and pics. You are a lucky guy to find the 7x57. I've been looking for one for some time.

For the .375 H&H I have picked up a Whitworth so the original reason for the comparison is moot at this point. I'm still looking for a 7x57 and if I don't find it by the time we have set up our Africa trip, I'll get a .30-06 - either a good Interarms mauser or the CZ.

I think you would be really happy with either...

Just tweak it a bit to your liking and I bet you'll be satisfied... The CZ will be a bit heavy in the American Model IMHO...You might want to look for the Interarms Rifle in 30-06. I saw several somewhere when I was looking for mine several weeks ago. You might want to 'google' it ASAP.....Good Luck!!!

Thanks - that's pretty much my plan. The Whitworth is based on an Interarms action. By getting an Interarms (or very similar) .30-06 I will have twin guns to practice with. This will help make sure that safety, loading actions, magazine release, don't result in any issues under pressure.