Southern Saskatchewan sandhills terrain. I am starting to like the Norma better than the regular 300 Winchester Magnum.

I think I am going to carry a 2 rifle battery. 7mm Remington Magnum and 340 Weatherby.

Maybe even the 7mm could be a WSM platform. Don't need a muzzle brake for a 7mm.

Are those deer bullet proof? I have used a 7mag and a .300WM but the last several mulies I killed was with a .280 and a 7-08.

The dreaded magnumitis illness has struck again.

See a good doctor and get a prescription for the .270 Winchester.

Use whatever of the two rifle you like better. Choosing between the two calibers isn't going to effect the success of your hunt.

Or, do it in the proper Saskatchewan fashion and get an STW.

Both well work well so well anything from 243 on up.

Actual I am thinking going the other way a light weight 6.5C for my next mule deer hunt.

Deadly low report low recoil.

Oh vapo, It’s much more (or less) than that.
He’s bucking to be a guest ‘jackass of the west’.

The two cartridges use virtually identical cases, the difference being twenty-four one-thousandths of an inch in bullet diameter. Shoot a 150-165 grain bullet out of either and it will leave the muzzle at more or less 3,000 fps. The deer won't know the difference, so the only difference you will know is which rifle shoots the best or which one you prefer over the other.

As to whether each carries more power than is necessary, well, of course they do since deer can be killed with a .22LR. There is no "right" amount of power for hunting deer.

Come to think of it, it's a silly question and I'm silly for answering it.

I think Mr. Corey has taken over the Medium Bore Rifle forum.

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Originally posted by Dogleg:
Use whatever of the two rifle you like better. Choosing between the two calibers isn't going to effect the success of your hunt.

Or, do it in the proper Saskatchewan fashion and get an STW.

I would get a 7mm STW, but the barrel life is probably only a 1000 shots. Maybe 2000 from the regular 7mm Remington Magnum.

For the past 40 some years, my favorite mule deer rifle has been my .257 Ackley shooting 115-120 grain bullets from Nosler, Sierra or Hornady.

That said, the only two mule deer bucks that I shot that I thought were large enough to have mounted, the largest I killed with a .45 caliber patched round lead ball from my percussion Kentucky smoke pole, and the other fell to a 150 grain Hornady Spire Point bullet from my old .30-06. I guess bullet placement is more important than bullet diameter or sectional density or generally most of the internet bullet thinking.

Also, I often carry two rifles to my car when I'm going to the range, but I've never considered carrying two rifles out on a hunt.

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Originally posted by Dogleg:
Or, do it in the proper Saskatchewan fashion and get an STW.

I love mine

I think one point being missed here is where the mule deer are. Places like southern Saskatchewan & Alberta are very open and windy so shooting distances can be long and the mulies there are big in comparison to anywhere else.

I see nothing wrong with either choice. Hell I'd use my .300 Weatherby, but that's what I have and I like it very much!

I guess I've been doing it wrong. I really like using my .257 Roberts on Mule Deer....

Between the two? I’d pick the 7mm RM. Lower recoil, plenty of down range velo. The 7mm RM would also compliment your 340 Wby better in that it is further apart.

I used the 7mag for almost 40 years, and killed about that many muley bucks with it, some of them very large. Most of the time with 160 partitions.

Lately though, I've gotten over the magnumbitis mentality. I like less recoil, and have killed several more big bucks with the 7mm08. It kills them just as dead. Most people can shoot lighter recoiling rifles better anyway. IMO/IME, bigger calibers don't give you the freedom to launch bullets in windy conditions. Yes, I hunt wide open country where the wind blows....alot.

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Originally posted by Snellstrom:
I guess I've been doing it wrong. I really like using my .257 Roberts on Mule Deer....

Dave,

You need a magnum to hunt windy areas that might offer up a long shots........

I am guessing if you take the labels out and just call them Remingtons 7 or Normas 30 it would be more acceptable to the standard cartridge crowd (that I am a part of). The versatility and availability of the 7 mag make it a sexier 30-06. The Norma is a little different and kinda cool. Personally I like magnum cases for deer in the windy parts of the deer world. It's deer, so even with over-sized members of the species you don't need a heavy for caliber bullet. Load a 120 grain TSX from the 7 or a 130 from the 30 and cut your flight time. At deer hunting ranges, say 400 yards and in you cut your drift, still have plenty of energy and frontal diameter to handle the game in question, and as an added bonus reduce recoil. My daughter has been punching holes in South Dakota white tails and muleys for many years with a 300Wby and 130 TSXs with fabulous results from 30 to 350 yards. Shoot what you like. I love my .243Wins, but I still like my 240Wby. I like the 25-06, but I love the 257Wby. The 270Win is the most practical cartridge in my safe...I have hunted with it for a grand total of 3 days. My .270Wby gets carried a lot, just because I like it better. Nobody marries a woman just because she can make a baby. We try to find one that is appealing to the eye, matches our personality, and does not bore, or annoy us to tears. I say feel free to let your rifle be the spice and variety in life, hell if you can swing it, get both.

If I hunted antelope I would get a 257 Weatherby. Still, 7mm Magnum has enough power for an elk.

The reason I bring up the 308 Norma besides it's simple case, is the fact that my best friends dad hunted with the caliber. Many a moose and whitetail deer fell to his Norma. It would be an honour to hunt with it. I like the Norma better than the H&H or the Win. Magnum.

223!

you'll like that 308 until you gotta fork over 2 weeks pay for a box of ammo just to sight it in.
the 257 weatherby out runs the 25-06 by I dunno like 20 fps? and only costs 3 times the money.

the 7 mag will do whatever you want realistically as in the real world.
it's mostly cost effective and field effective even on open grass.
the 270 will too shrug pick one and shoot it shoot it enough to know what it will do then shoot it some more.
ripping the drop tables off the back of a box of ammo and taping it to your stock doesn't cut it.

257 is almost 10% faster.

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I guess I've been doing it wrong. I really like using my .257 Roberts on Mule Deer....

Last Mule Deer hunt I was on, my wife killed her buck with one shot at about 80 yards or so with a 117 grain Remington Round Nose Core-loct out of her .257 Roberts.

I killed mine at right at 150 yards with a 235 grain Barnes "X" bullet out of my .375 H&H.

I think that gives folks a fairly good range of effective choices!

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Originally posted by ar corey:
If I hunted antelope I would get a 257 Weatherby. Still, 7mm Magnum has enough power for an elk.

Where in the hell do you dream up this shit?

If somebody can point to a game animal which noted the difference between those two chamberings, please email me asap.

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Lately though, ... the 7mm08

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the 270 will too

Kinda hard to choose between the 7-08 and 270, too.

Ive never had a problem with the 25-35 or 250-3000 Savage, or a outstanding number of other calibers, even like Jeffes .223, with a 60 gr. Hornady..Calibers are not my concern, knowing your personal limits, approach your big game hunting like an adult, use good bullets and limit range to the caliber..

The '06, loaded properly, is all you need.

Zero it 2" high at 100yds and you've got yourself a GTG PBZ out to 300yds.

Just hold your crosshair center-of-critter, and fire.

Tyros seem to think a magnum is better. For 99% of the big game that actually gets hunted, it's not.

i will use nothing less than a 416 Weathwrby with the shoulder moved forward for a .200 neck length and all but .005 of the case taper blown out. It is the 416 Weatherby Maximally Improved.

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Originally posted by ar corey:

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Originally posted by Dogleg:
Use whatever of the two rifle you like better. Choosing between the two calibers isn't going to effect the success of your hunt.

Or, do it in the proper Saskatchewan fashion and get an STW.

I would get a 7mm STW, but the barrel life is probably only a 1000 shots. Maybe 2000 from the regular 7mm Remington Magnum.

According to John Krieger the bench rest barrel life of the 7mm Remington Magnum is 2000 shots, the MOA will be greater. Probably 4000-5000 shots.

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According to John Krieger the bench rest barrel life of the 7mm Remington Magnum is 2000 shots, the MOA will be greater. Probably 4000-5000 shots.

Honestly, if you are going to be using this rifle for hunting Mule Deer, do you think you will be shooting 2000 rounds at live deer in your life time?

you know Hasher if you necked that down to 7mm you'd have something there.

Thinkin a 243 would be plenty

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Originally posted by Buglemintoday:

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Originally posted by Dogleg:
Or, do it in the proper Saskatchewan fashion and get an STW.

I love mine

I've been using them for awhile, since maybe '89. Only got 3 left now. An STW can be used as proof of residency in Saskatchewan.

Use whatever you like, the 7 or the 308 both work on deer and elk real well, you won't be able to tell the difference..

Today I use .308, 30-06 or 7x57 and on deer and elk, and depending on the geographical location I often opt of a .338 on Elk..Off a haystack out the window or whatever on cow elk depredation I use my 30-30, 250 Savage or 25-35 and go for a neck shot at 25 to 50 yards...