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Just looking for some imput, opinions and ideas on using a 9.3 X 62 for Cape Buffalo. I have my own thoughts and ideas but would appreciate others chimming in with their preferred loads, bullet weight and make, and any other data. I would like to hear from those who have ACTUALLY shot Buff with this calibur, but all comments are truly welcome. Thanks. Larry Sellers SCI Life Member | ||
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I killed a cape this past September 2012 with a 9.3 x62. The load was a North Fork cup point solid, 286 grains pushed by 53.9 grains of Vihtavuori N540 powder in RWS brass with Federal 215M primers. | |||
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Ganyana is an expert on this one. He does not recommend the 320 gr Woodleighs but is comfortable with the 286gr. I think Ozhunter has also shot buffalo with the 9.3X62 in africa and Australia. On paper the balistics between the 375 using 270 grn or 300 gr bullets at 100 yards and the 9.3X62 up close is not very differnt. "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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I don't see why not. I have killed buffalo with a 9,3X74R with Woodleigh 286gr solids. | |||
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Kevin Robertson is also very positive about the 9.3x62. You will read about it in The Perfect Shot. Lots of South Africans use the 9.3 on buffalo. | |||
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I have used this calibre successfully on a few Buffalo using 300grn Swift A Frames and or 286grn Woodleigh fmj bullets. Also killed one with 320grn fmjs but now use 286grners in the A Frames and FMJ bullets. | |||
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I've shot a buff with 9,3x62 and another one with 9,3x74R. I've used solids on both - 286gr North Fork FN - 300gr Bridger FN - 270gr GS FN I'd concur with oz's pick to use 286gr cup and core softs of appropriate construction and 286gr jacketed solids and 270gr monos (soft and solids). Cup point solid in 286gr might be optimum. IMO - Don't be tempted to use a heavy-for caliber 300 or even 320gr - no need + heavy for caliber solids are awfully unstable on close quarter (~sub 30m) shooting. | |||
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That means if the 9,3 mauser can kill Cape buffalo, a .333Jeffery with it´s long 300grain bullet doing 2280-2300 ft/sec should be able too...  DRSS: HQ Scandinavia. Chapters in Sweden & Norway | |||
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So will the 338 Win with 300 gr bullets and the old 250 gr solids will exit lengthwise Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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Thanks for the input folks, keep them coming if you will? Also those that have used the 9.3's on Buff, could you be more specific on the load factors? Bullet weight, make, powder and grain weight used and fps would be appreciated. Ozhunter, just what I was looking for. Thanks again. Larry Sellers | |||
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I have a friend of mine is S. Africa that uses a 9.3x74 with 286 solids to backup on buff...he feels it is plenty. Ed DRSS Member | |||
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I watched a video of Greg Rodriguez taking a Cape Buff with a 9.3x62. After 8 or so shots and bumping the animal numerous times, it was finally over. He told me "never again". | |||
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Never again hunt buff with a 9.3x62 or never again fluff the first shot? Dean ...I say that hunters go into Paradise when they die, and live in this world more joyfully than any other men. -Edward, Duke of York | |||
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LOL! I'll tell him that :-) | |||
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I can say that without being a total jerk having fluffed the first one on a buff myself. ...I say that hunters go into Paradise when they die, and live in this world more joyfully than any other men. -Edward, Duke of York | |||
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I took a western savannah buffalo with the 9.3x62 shooting factory Lapua ammo loaded with their 286 grain all copper Naturalis bullet. First shot dropped him on the spot. Second shot was between the shoulders as insurance. The 9.3 will do it's job if you do yours.  On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died. If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch... Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son! - Rudyard Kipling Life grows grim without senseless indulgence. | |||
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Sadly Greg will never have to worry about buffalo again, he has been murdered by a two legged animal. | |||
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Yes, I remembered making the above post when I heard the news. I used to rib him about it. So sad. I talked to James Jeffery, his right-hand man today at length, and they're planning on keeping GAO running. James is a great guy...Greg was fortunate to have him on board. | |||
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I have shot a number of buffalo with the 9.3x62 and I like the 300 gr. Sierra, 286 Nosler and the GS Customs bullets...In my 26 inch long throated 9.3x62 I like the 320 gr Nosler but in my switch barrel Brno carbine I like the 286 gr. Dead Toughs, and 300 gr. Swifts real well..The 9.3x62 is really kind to bullets and they all seem to work well for me. I can't tell much difference in the 9.3x62, the 9.3x64, the .338 Win. or the .375s. If the 9.3x62 isn't enough for someone then they should probably go with a 416 or .404 which isn't a bad idea anyway.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Would love to hear from someone who has used the CEBs in this caliber on buffalo. I would think the North Fork cup point would be capable, too. There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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Extracted from page 232 of the Terminal Bullet Performance thread upstairs in Big Bores…
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The 9.3x62mm is too light for my tastes on Cape buff, although I'm sure it will do the job if the hunter does his. But everything does not always go according to plan. Too much can go wrong in hunting DG, and with minimum calibers there's not much margin, if any, for error. JMHO, of course. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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shot placement,shot placement, shot placement | |||
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I took a nice Cape Buffalo in July with a 9.3x62 using Barnes 286 gr. TSX. It was an ideal broadside shot and one shot did the trick. | |||
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See rule # 2 Mike Legistine actu? Quid scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Bill, First, in my previous post I wrote "Sierra" that should have been Swift 300 gr. bullets. As to the North Fork Cup Point,I have shot half a dozen buffalo with the North Fork cup points in my 9.3x62's...If I was confined to just one bullet to hunt all game in the world it would be the North Fork Cup point or the 286 gr. GS Customs bullet..I do like the 320 Woodleighs in my 26 inch barrel rifle as I can get good velocities with the long tube and its worked very well on buffalo. I used it exclusively for several years. I'll send you some photos of recovered cup points. I tested this bullet in Africa for North Fork, even had a small hand in its development. Used them in the 404, 470, 416, 375 and 9.3x62 on various animals..Prefer them to solids or softs on game up to and including buffalo..I would think they would work well on body shots on elephant, but don't know that. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Mike I recommend you change the 'and' to 'or' then every situation will be covered. Jim "Life's hard; it's harder if you're stupid" John Wayne | |||
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is the 9.3 X 62 legal in all countries for buff? | |||
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I'd far rather clear it with my Ph than know it's legal where I'm hunting.... /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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Spent 35 days in Moz, just returned two weeks ago. I took a really nice Buff with my 9.3 X 62 CZ 550FS, no problem. It really has become my "go to" gun, shoots the TSX 286 grainers at the 1" @ 100 yards group level all day long. If all works out it will go along next year on a repeat of this years adventure. Larry Sellers SCI (International) Life Member | |||
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Say Larry, What kind of velocity did you get and did you retrieve any bullets/ you got any pictures? I've been thinking I'd use my .375 next month up here but that .366 sure is tempting! | |||
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"Spent 35 days in Moz, just returned two weeks ago." I can't wait to read the hunt report on this. | |||
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Sorry guys. Don't/won't put hunt reports on AR anymore. Just my thing after lots of negatives from lots of others who have. If you would like to send me your e-mail address by PM, will be putting a report together and sending it to folks that way. Didn't crono the loads, but they were 286 grain Barnes TSX and Solids. 56 grains Varget for the Solids and 56.5 grains for the TSX I believe. Both then shot to the same POI. Did not recover any bullets to check out. Larry Sellers SCI (International) Life Member
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Larry Sellers: Sorry guys. Don't/won't put hunt reports on AR anymore. Just my thing after lots of negatives from lots of others who have. If you would like to send me your e-mail address by PM, will be putting a report together and sending it to folks that way. Didn't crono the loads, but they were 286 grain Barnes TSX and Solids. 56 grains Varget for the Solids and 56.5 grains for the TSX I believe. Both then shot to the same POI. Did not recover any bullets to check out. Larry Sellers SCI (International) Life Member [QUOTE] People really posted negative comments about your reports? Not that I don't believe it, just can't fathom what their motivation is. That sucks. I always enjoy a good hunting story.  Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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Some folks feel the 9.3x62 is too light for buffalo, some feel the .375 is too light for buffalo and usually qualify it by stating "if something goes wrong", and they are not altogether wrong on that point..The 9.3s and the 375 are minimum calibers for buffalo for sure, but over the years I have determined that a poorly placed shot with ANY bigbore is not going to be good, but a properly placed shot with a properly constructed bullet with any big bore including the 9.3s and the .375 is a dead animal. In a charge situation, as much as love the 9.3x62 in my old age because it does not hurt my previously injured hand and my bursitas shoulder and neck, I would of course prefer a 404 or even a .500 N.E., but I don't see that happening because I'm very careful on that first shot or I'll pass, and I have to trust my Ph's to take a hand in saving our bacon should it come to that... I have shot more buffalo with a 40 cal. than any other caliber. but these days I'm happy and content with my 9.3x62 or .375 H&H, and I shoot them a little better... Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I got one of the Heym SR30 rifles in 9.3x62 late last year from Chris at Heym USA. What a sweet shooting little rifle! Put a 2x10 Mk4 on it, very very happy with it. Kinda wondering if I ought to be taking this to Caprivi next week instead of the 375. Too late to change now, but it's a pity we can't easily take more iron with us on these trips...   Master of Boats, Slayer of Beasts, Charmer of the fair sex, ...... and sometimes changer of the diaper..... | |||
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Totally understand. PM inbound. | |||
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It can be done as many here have proven, but are there better calibers for the job. YES. But with buffalo especially one shot in the right place with a light gun is better than 10 in the wrong place with a heavy gun! | |||
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just came back from the NT in oz, hunting buffalo. used t3 9.3x62 286gr woodleigh PP and 2208 powder, or varget. All one shot kills to the chest region, pills on the off side of buff. i would use them on african buff, and follow up with barnes tsx pills. the 9.3 kills way out of proportion to its size, and without any fuss, if you do your part. | |||
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