I am thinking about buying a new or used Savage 111 in 270 Win. I don't own a rifle in this caliber and I've heard a lot of good things about the accuracy of Savage rifles. I have several good hunting rifles. This rifle could be used for hunting but more than anything would be an off-season shooter, unless it was really something special. I'd appreciate any ideas or thoughts you have on the Savage 111.

Thanks in advance.

I have had a Savage 111 270 for about 3 years now. Mine is really accurate and I like it a lot. Mine shoots those 140 grain SST bullets under an inch at 100 yards.

Like you said I use mine 12 months a year shooting paper but mostly 600 to 800 yards at rocks on the side of a hill. That is the reason for that SST bullet.

Regards, Keith

They're not everyone's taste but they are about as a good a value in rifles as you can find today.

Savage has at least listened to their customers and fixed the decades long hard trigger issue with their Accu-Trigger which is a big plus and also made a solid attmept to cure Tupperware Syndrome with their Accu-Stock as well.

I currently own one in 7mm Rem Mag.; and sold another that did me yeoman service for over thirty years in .30/06 Sprg.; both absolute tack-drivers.

What's not to like about a solid buy in a very accurate utilitarian rifle? Sounds to me like exactly what you're looking for.

Good Luck with your choice.

I love Savages it's the working mans rifle.Not real fancy but great shooters out of the box. I like the fact that because the barrels are easily removed and they the bolt heads can be changed to accept different calibers if needed I have swapped out barrels from 243 to a 223 heavy varmitt.a 308 to 7MM-08 and my work in progress is a 30-06 to a 338-06

I have a friend who shoots silouette competion. He once told me that every so often a couple of Savage owners will show up at the range and give every one fits with their straight out of the box rifles.
That has to leave a shitty taste in one's mouth knowing they spent several thousand dollars on a rifle and scope and someone right beside them is doing as good or better for a third of fourth of what they spent.

If accuracy was my only concern, all my rifles would be made by savage. So if all you want is to punch paper I would say go for it. As a hunting tool, there are MUCH better choices. Of my many gripes with the 110 action, my main concern is with the design of the rear baffle. Over time it can loosen and fall off, potentially leaving you vulnerable to escaping gasses.

All,
Thanks for the replies. These have been really helpful!

I 've heard many good things about the accuracy of Savage bolt rifles; however, I am a form and function guy and to my eye the Savage lacks form. I'll spend my money elsewhere.

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Originally posted by Dr. Lou:
I 've heard many good things about the accuracy of Savage bolt rifles; however, I am a form and function guy and to my eye the Savage lacks form. I'll spend my money elsewhere.

My personal experience as well.....except mine run to poor feeding, malfunctioning safetys and other deal killing problems.

I must add however that my last Savage purchase was a long time ago and since then they came out with the accutrigger so possibly they have fixed other issues but for me it's not relevant.....there are no Savage rifles in my house nor will there be. The bitterness lasts a very long time here.

I have not shot many Savages but the ones I have shot in the last ten years have all been accurate. My 110FCP in .338 Lapua shoots under 1/2 MOA at 500 yards a lot easier than my Stiller/Lilja/McMillan/Jewell custom job. I used to think Rem 700s were the most accurate out of the box; today, it is Savage followed by Browning X Bolts.

I bought a used Savage model 111 chambered in 270WIn about ten years ago. It looked brand new and wore a Boyd laminated stock and a Timney trigger. I don't know if it had been rebarreled from a different cartridge or what but it wouldn't feed. I replaced the mag box and this didn't help much at all, so I lowered the angle of the feed ramp and this helped some, then I went after the mag follower with some sand paper and now it feeds like a dream. The barrel copper fouled horribly even though it would shoot an honest 1MOA so I then hand lapped the bore (which is supposedly a big no-no with cut and crowned barrels) and the end product was a rifle that shoots .25-.50 MOA and the copper fouling is as minimal as custom barrels that I have owned.

Don't let this story scare you away from a Savage rifle because most of them are a lot easier to deal with than mine was. Truthfully, I would buy this gun again even knowing the issues I had to deal with.

P.S. My oldest boy now owns this rifle as I gave each of my children one of my hunting rifles.

I've been playing with Savage rifles since the late, late 50's...first one in 1959.

They are NOT for everyone and EVERYONE seems to have a rant about some part of the rifles...mostly the barrel nut and the "form"...come on guys...these are commercially made cheep, very accurate shooters designed for the common man, who drives a common van, whose dog don't have no pedigree.

Whatever warts they have can be readily fixed...the bolt can be rebuilt very easily and any part that falls off probably has had a ton of rounds put through it and NEEDS REBUILDING...I've NEVER had a rear baffle fall off in any of the many LA and SA rifles I have.

That ARGUMENT envisions a totally mindless person who has a rifle that has broken and ammo that is totally messed up that keeps shooting even thought pieces have fallen off...seems a bit far fetched and reaching to me.

AND...I've NEVER had any other commercial rifle, and I have many of those too in all the commercially available brands...that DIDN'T have a few warts that needed attention out of the box...

It seems like a whole lot of people like to bash some brand...ALL BRANDS at some point.

If you want a perfect rifle then a custom job MIGHT be found and you will pay through the nose for it and no matter what the "form" SOMEONE will still think it is a POS because the "form isn't to their liking or it has white spacers or the wrong color forend/grip cap, etc.

Most of my rifles have aftermarket stocks or stocks I've made from Boyd's, Richards, Bishop and a few other stock makers that are long dead, and some with very wild shapes...I only have a few "all weather" hunters with Tupperware stocks...I like them all because they ALL do one thing I like...THEY SHOOT BUGHOLES...on paper, at rocks, cans and knotholes AND CRAWLY CRITTERS.

The Savage rifle is custom made to customize to YOUR liking...at a price WAY BELOW a custom job...so...WHAT'S NOT TO LIKE??????

If you don't like the nut, take it off and throw it away and fit another barrel just like a Rem, Marlin, Win etc...ain't no thang...or use the new "no-groove" nut...Man, this nut thing is like a cross eyed rat terrier shaking a rag thinking it's a rat and just won't let go...leave it off, that dawg don't hunt no mo'.

Blacktailer, go buy your Sav 111 and get ready for a long love affair...you can clothe her in silks and satin, swap out her barrel and turn her into a sleek, racy, svelte, spiky thin tubed lightweight killer or a brawny, muscular, iron pumping beauty queen life taker with a smile...

OH...sorry...went a bit sideways there...but you get the point.

I have a varmint model that shoots great, but they are too cheap, clunky and troublesome for me to rely on for a big game rifle.

I own Four Savages all bought used all shot great I don't know where you can buy a rifle for less than 500.00 that shoots as good, I also own some expensive rifles all of which are good shooters but ALL Needed some kind of work ALL. Go buy one and when your groups are tighter than the guy sitting next to you with a Rifle costing 5 times as much just smile,as Far as a hunter I wouldn't be afraid to take one back to Africa when I go which is the plan for my latest poor man build

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Originally posted by Rob44:
I own Four Savages all bought used all shot great I don't know where you can buy a rifle for less than 500.00 that shoots as good, I also own some expensive rifles all of which are good shooters but ALL Needed some kind of work ALL. Go buy one and when your groups are tighter than the guy sitting next to you with a Rifle costing 5 times as much just smile,as Far as a hunter I wouldn't be afraid to take one back to Africa when I go which is the plan for my latest poor man build

The 110 FCP Lapua sure isn't inexpensive. A lot less than a custom rifle, of course, but a lot more than $500.

You can always find something in EVERY rifle to pick on...I've read ravings about every brand...just look at the jumping up and down over the CZ "Hump/hog back" and the whizzing about the rough bolts...not to mention those black" rifles with all the krap hanging on and off them, but that still adds character and looks cool to many.

If someone would have waved my AR15 HB at me way back when I would have thought it was the ugliest thing I had ever seen, not counting my Ex...but "Mr. YOOglyblackthing" grows on you.

My 338 Lapua is certainly "clunky" looking with that monster of a muzzle brake and 6 round mag sticking out the bottom...but it SHOOTS...that's all that matters.

I've had a few bad mouth my Rem 700 338-06 back about 30 odd years because I put a camo Rhyolite stock in it...until they started buying the beer at shootouts.

My newly acquired Savage 116 in 375 Ruger is the same way...it SHOOTS...I've tried to jam it by holding it in lots of odd angles and upside down and as long as I don't pull back the bolt after the round is out of the center feed mag, it chambers every time...not like my older 110's but it ISN'T a controlled round bolt. Even at that I wouldn't hesitate to use it on the toothy kind of critters.

I ordered and received a Boyd's walnut stock for it but because it is so new and they didn't have the right routing on the mag cutout I had to send it back. They are supposed to be correcting that now and in time I will order up much better looking and less ugly stock for it.


They are what they are...ALL SHOOTERS...nothing more until YOU do something about any glitches...OR PRETTY THEM UP.

Luck

I think any thing Lapua is pricey,,the Hump back CZ isn't pretty but I own one in a 308 Mannlicher and am krazy about it. took a Nice Kudu Bull with it in Africa this year and when my time comes it will be willed to a certain PH in Africa who also was impressed with the way it shot.

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Originally posted by blacktailhunter:
I am thinking about buying a new or used Savage 111 in 270 Win. I don't own a rifle in this caliber and I've heard a lot of good things about the accuracy of Savage rifles. I have several good hunting rifles. This rifle could be used for hunting but more than anything would be an off-season shooter, unless it was really something special. I'd appreciate any ideas or thoughts you have on the Savage 111.

Thanks in advance.

Butt ugly and deadly accurate!

I bought my son a Savage 16 weather warrior in 308. The gun is as accurate as my Sauer 202 and it cost 5x more. Now obviously there is no comparison when it comes to the quality and finish of the Sauer but a deer will never gripe about being killed by a humble rifle.

I am impressed by the accuracy and price of Savage rifles. They are just limited on aftermarket parts when compared with Winchester or Remington. I will buy more.