I am intereseted in hearing from those with experience with one or the other.

With the 7600 I wonder how reliable it is with condensation and then ice on the pump rails.

With the R-25 I wonder if it is prone to the same issues that have plagued AR-15 if they are not kept clean - malfunctioning/jamming, etc.

Thanks,
Deke.

I have 3 7600's, and I lived in the far north for 20 years. I had far fewer issues with those than any of my bolt actions. With proper maintenance they will serve you very well for a long time.

I'll second that ! The 7600 is IMHO the most weatherproof rifle out there ! If ice should form on the action bars , it'll scrape right off when you operate it , and you won't even know it . I have 0 experience with the R-25 but I know it's heavier than a dead minister and I wouldn't want to lug one around in the woods .

besides, its alot uglier than a 7600!

publish specs show it only a quarter pound heavier....

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Originally posted by Mike Bromley:
I'll second that ! The 7600 is IMHO the most weatherproof rifle out there ! If ice should form on the action bars , it'll scrape right off when you operate it , and you won't even know it .

I agree. mine is a 760 but the priciple is the same. I actually cannot believe they have never made a SS version of this rifle. I would own one, or more, if they did. The sad thing is, the slide action rifle is a dying thing and it is probably the best combination of accuracy and speed out there.

Big fan of the 760/7600. I have a synthetic stock 30-06 carbine that has flat black duracoat on the metal and is my "bad weather" rifle. Around here that is more often rain and mud than snow and ice, But it has seen all conditions and never hiccupped. It is also surprisingly accurate.

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Originally posted by sam308:
Big fan of the 760/7600. I have a synthetic stock 30-06 carbine that has flat black duracoat on the metal and is my "bad weather" rifle. Around here that is more often rain and mud than snow and ice, But it has seen all conditions and never hiccupped. It is also surprisingly accurate.

That's exactly what my favourite one is with one exception, yours has an 18½" barrel. I started off with a standard 22" barrel and cut it down to 20", then I cut the LOP to 13" and Pachmayr Declerator for use with bulky clothing. The overall length is the same as yours but with a little less muzzle blast and shorter LOP for use in the cold. Like you, I have flat black duracoat on the metal and topped with a Burris Timberline 2x7, it's my go anywhere do anything rifle. If I had to, I could be quite content with that one rifle.

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Originally posted by Deke:
I am intereseted in hearing from those with experience with one or the other.

With the 7600 I wonder how reliable it is with condensation and then ice on the pump rails.

With the R-25 I wonder if it is prone to the same issues that have plagued AR-15 if they are not kept clean - malfunctioning/jamming, etc.

Thanks,
Deke.

Those plagues you speak of are a thing of the past. You'd be surprised how long an AR will run without cleaning.

Not only are the 7600s and older 760s dependable they are incredibly accurate as a rule..

i did r25 vs 74x/74xx/75x .. i don't consider the 7600 to compare.. but lets pretend i do.

for generall 250-500 bucks you can get a good enough remsemi/pump ... and buy a 1300 night vision scope, and by 1600 into a great night rig...

vs 1300 for the r25...
as for me, i find little difference in the 308 vs 30-06 discussion.. i reload, therefore they are the same thing to me

My family has used three different rifles like this. One of which the barrel came loose from the action. I believe it is pinned in place. My Grandparents used the semi-auto versions one in .308 & one in '06. Father is still using a 760 I think it is but it's a pump. They shoot well enough, functioned reliably, and the only real problem was as mentioned earlier. The only other story to tell was Dad jammed his scope cover under the slide once. I guess the dangling rubberband thing was in just the wrong spot. He got off one shot and was left standing there fuming.

I don't like the way the AR carries really and the heavier they are the less I like the way they feel. I do like the AR platform for calling predators, and have thought about one in 6.5 Creedmore but that's about it.

If you want a pump Remington is about the only game in town. If you like autos then Browning, Benelli, and Springfield all have viable options. Nate

jeffeosso, I sense there could be wisdom in your post but I have a hard time understanding all of it, please decipher.

as for weight, the r25 is only 1 quarter pound heavier so the heavier than hell argument has no merit.

Deke

Deke,
I decided to buy a 742, rather than an r25. There's little enough difference between a 30-06 and 308 (especially to a big bore fan) to matter, and since i reload for mild loads in 30-06, the peformance difference is nil.

rather than spending 1300 for an r25 (with tax), i spent far less than 300 .. the gun works, it shoots nice, and i CAN put a great trigger in it.

10 round mags are commerical items.. and if i need a 20 rounder, i could make one.. not rocket surgery.

i realize the gent was asking about the pump.. not the semi, but in my mind, and recent experience, i compared the 2 semis

i'd love to have an r25 - i do not believe them to be 1300 guns, as is. more like 800 ... if they were at 800, i'd have likely bought one.

weight isn't a concern for me. most of my big bores are 9-10LB before scope.

My friend just bought a r25 in .308, and now plans on getting one in 7mm-08. It's a neat gun and i like them.

I would not spend that much on one though. I wouldnt mind an old remington semiauto model 81 in .35 rem though!

I didn't consider the 742 what about the 750 woodmaster?