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I was looking at getting either this or a winchester in stainless for their CRF action with fixed ejectors.
How does ruger's newer zytel synthetic stock perform? I figure i will need a timney trigger and possibly a bedding job... let me know
 
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M-70 over Ruger anyday.....and regardless of the stock Ruger uses.


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I have the Ruger 77 pencil barrel in .338 Win Mag. It shoots okay, but the trigger is really stiff. Don't shoot this rifle if you have a cold. It will knock all of the snot out of your head.


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I bought the Winchester Stainless Classic. It dodn't feel as clubby as the Ruger. Accuracy is good from my rifle.
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ya'll keep slamming the ruger, please...

I need some more m77 mkII actions cheap

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Are Rugers still a investment casting action and not machines out of bar stock? Which one would be better? Model 70 machined out of bar stock or Ruger with it's investment casting action?


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Are Rugers still a investment casting action and not machines out of bar stock? Which one would be better? Model 70 machined out of bar stock or Ruger with it's investment casting action?

Rugers are machined from investment castings. Winchesters are machined from forgings. Neither is superior to the other, because they were both designed to be made by the methods in which they are made. When you run into trouble is when you try to make from a casting a part designed to be made from a forging without compensating for the castings lower strength/volume ratio with additional thickness or geometry changes where necessary.

The fact that Ruger Model 77s routinely handle the 416 Rigby, 375 H&H, and 458 Lott without a single issue tells me that their cast actions are more than strong enough.
 
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I have the Ruger 77 pencil barrel in .338 Win Mag. It shoots okay, but the trigger is really stiff. Don't shoot this rifle if you have a cold. It will knock all of the snot out of your head.


I have stainless laminate rugger .338...................shoots under 1" at 110 yards with woodleigh 225 gr protected points, I have a leupold Vari X 11 3-9 on it, I reckon it kicks less than the canoe paddle ruger 30/06 I had and it is also more accurate. I feel it is my new "30/06" I really find the .338 win mag to be very mild to shoot with the 225 gr bullets.
 
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Ruger I belive they are some of the toughest rifles out there. There new style stock is as good as any factory stock.
 
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One of the local hardwars stores has a Ruger 77Mk2
in 338Win Mag.

the "floor" of the bolt face is NOT cut away like a CRF rifle
that I'm familiar with but it DOES have the blade ejector.

They want a whopping $339 for it and I'm tempted.
If it was a CRF or a Stainless steel rifle it'd be easier to talk myself into taking a chance on it.

Hey, here in PA the likelihood that a 338Mag is "shot out"
is on the slim side....

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the "floor" of the bolt face is NOT cut away like a CRF rifle
that I'm familiar with but it DOES have the blade ejector.

AllanD

All of the Mk II actions are CRF.

Having owned Winchesters, I was at first a little disappointed that my wife picked up a Ruger all-weather 77 mkII in 338 win mag. After looking at it and "test-firing" it for her, I am impressed with rugers fit and function. The bolt guides are not as machined as in the winchesters, and both need a trigger job from the get go. She has been pulling the trigger on 225 gr remington ultra core lockts, they have been quite comfortable and controllable (as much as a 338 can be). Accuracy has been between 3/4" and 1" benched at 100 yds consistantly.

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Hey were is that stainless 338 for that cheap I will take it if you dont.I have two always lokiing for cheap stainless rugers.Mine shoot 3/4" at 200 yards with the first 225 grs remington loaded.They used speer grang slam bullets then.I out shot my winchester with a boss on it in 338.I also out shot my cousins $5000 custom rifle.I do wish I could smooth up a ruger stainless action.
 
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I never gave a Ruger a second look till recently when I had the opportunity to handle one. Stainless, crf, left handed, floorplate latched nicely, trigger sucked, very nice rings included, no mounts needed. Dealer allowed me to cycle through some loaded rounds and they fed flawlessly. Out the door price for a stainless left handed 300 win is $578, I ordered two. One will be a 338 and the other will be a AR something or other down the line. If anyone needs a leftie stock or 300 Win barrel drop me a pm before they go on ebay.


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What Recoilpad said. I had one of the stainless Rugers with the plastic stock in .338. At the time it was the least expensive rifle available in the caliber. I bought it for a moose hunt. It was also the lightest factory .338 available and kicked like a mule. On the range it shot well enough for moose with the iron sights but my groups would alway increase after the fourth or fifth shot. this was not a barrel cooling issue. It was a blue cheek issue. I looked into a muzzle brake and the place that offered to do it said they'd measured the recoil on similar rifles to @39 lb.s, making it one of the heaviest recoiling factory rifles they'd ever tested... more than some .458s. Because of the necessity to remove the band with the front sight to tread for the muzzle brake the brake was going to cost me dern near as much as I paid for the gun. I sold the Ruger to a guy who restocked it, reduced the trigger pull to about 2.5 lb.s and said it shot quite well. Good on him. He was welcome to it.


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Posts: 621 | Location: Commonwealth of Virginia | Registered: 06 September 2003Reply With Quote
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I bought a M-77 MK II in 338 a couple of years ago. Plain blued and wood stock. I had the rifle bedded and installed a Canjar trigger ( I have a 6.5 x 55 in a ruger so triggered) I had the smith lap the rings and recrown the barrel. I sighted it in with Federal 250 gr Nosler Partitions factory loads. Shot great, better than great, and its been my alaska aircraft rifle for the last 5 years. The ring mounts is what I really like about the rugers. Simple and strong. Oh for a scope I went with a Fixed 4x leupold with a German #1 reticial. Whole thing is a fine inexpensive hunting rifle.
 
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