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Custom Remington (action tuned), McMillan, #3 Douglas at 26 inches, reamed by JGS. The damn thing has done a best of 2.5 inches and averages 3 sometimes much worse. Bullets tried; 130 nosler part. and B tip, 130 Sierra, 130 Barnes X (yuck!! 6" groups), 130 Speer. Powders tried H and Imr 4831, RL-19&22, IMR 7828. 230 rounds fired to date. Do we have a bad barrel? Any suggestions? Help please! Jamie | ||
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X-man, whats the rate of twist in that barrel?? Secondly, I always use SMK's to determine a rifle's accuracy. I know you are a big fan of the X bullets. So am I. Some rifle's wont have them X bullets. And no rifle ever shot the Nosler BT's for me under 3". I assume this is a new barrel??..sakofan.. Hang in there, friend!! [ 10-20-2003, 12:22: Message edited by: sakofan ] | |||
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Twist: I had a 270 Wea, shot horrible, had a 14 inch twist barrel. Put on a 10 and it behaved properly. Any touching by the stock on the barrel is death to a group. Gotta have a good free float. I agree with Sakofan, try some Matchkings. Another bullet to try, usually gives good accuracy, is a Ballistic tip. However, Matchkings can be deceiving at 100 yards, they have not completely stabilized. If the twist is wrong, or a bad crown, or bad chamber, they will not shoot good at 100 yards. I have seen the same problem caused by an improperly trued action: The top bolt lug was 0.003" off the seat. I remachined the lugs and the rifle shot 3/8" groups, previously was shooting 2 to 3 inch groups. This rifle had been assembled by a gent that had all the tools but used them incorrectly, he was the one responsible for machining the bolt lugs incorrectly. If the crown is improperly machined, it could also be the problem. Chances are you have several errors in the rifle construction that are accumulative. Chamber could be incorrect, maybe it is not concentric to the bore. There is more to assembling a rifle than merely maching metal, all things have to be done accurately and properly. [ 10-20-2003, 19:37: Message edited by: John Ricks ] | |||
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The firearms manufacturers connsider a 1 inch group to be all you need. Check your reloading manual[S] to verify these loads. 130 gr 57.0 gr H-4831 150 gr 57.0 gr H-4831 I know these loads are hot but, were accurate, back in the 70's. Check and start low...work up. | |||
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how much freebore is in the chamber,had one that duoglas chambered and it had way to much freebore,wouldnt shoot a pattern much less a group. | |||
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I've had a couple of 3-4" Weatherbys. I contributed both to the 1"+ of freebore. I started shooting longer (heavier) bullets and seating as far out as I could. That really helped. | |||
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Along with everything others have said, try RL-25 in the .270 Wby Mag.,,,,Works Great. Just the way I do it,,,,, | |||
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quote:Hey Jamie, Looks like a nice rifle concept and I can sure understand your disappointment. I do believe I'd approach this a bit differently than the other folks though. Don't know if the barrel is hosed-up or not. It could be something totally different, a combination of things, or probably something minor. Suggestion: Since it is a "Custom Rifle", I'd first call the guy that put it together and ask him to check his records and see what the Load was he used to verify the accuracy of your rifle. Also ask what the group size was that he got using it. Then I'd duplicate that Load and see how well it does for you. If it is still in the 2.5"-3" pattern, call him again and ask when it would be convenient for you to come see him with the rifle and some of the cartridges you Loaded to his specifications. I can't think of a "competent" Gunsmith I know who wouldn't want to correct the accuracy issue on one of "his Custom Rifles." Their reputation is very SERIOUS business. ... By the way, I agree with the other posters about trying some MatchKings and/or B-Tips. I always Benchmark a new rifle with them to see what it's actual accuracy potential is prior to developing a Load with Hunting Bullets. One other thing is the Bullet "weight". Some rifles just won't shoot a specific weight as well as they will a different weight. Your barrel might just prefer a 140gr or a 150gr. Best of luck to you. [ 10-30-2003, 02:44: Message edited by: Hot Core ] | |||
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quote:Those look like .270 Win. loads, not .270 Weatherby. They would not even be minimum loads in the Weatherby. | |||
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I think john ricks and hot core have given you sound advice. Take it back to the guy and tell um it will not shoot. or if you have lost faith in him there is nothing wrong with getting a second opinion on your rifle. you prolly paid big bucks for this gun and it outta shoot | |||
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