Hey gazors,
after my last posting i get some requests about available 9,3mm bullets in germany. Because i know that the choice in USA isn�t so big for the 9,3mm bullets, i thought this might could be of interest for all of you.
Except from the bullet producers that are listed below, Speer,Sierra..do have some too. But i guess these bullets are available in the states, so there is no need to buy them overseas.
And now the show stars

I looked in some reloading supply catalogues..., and the cheapest bullets are the Sellier and Bellot (S&B), i �m not quite sure where they produce them, but i think either in hungary or tchecheslowakia.
There are two different types and weights for the 9,3mm . I guess the lighter one is for the 9,3*72R. U know this cartridge? It�s the old german "F�rster Patrone" a not so powerfull 9,3mm cartridge.(Pmax=1800bar; a 193gr (12,51g) Softpoint ,V0=595 m/sec; E0=2213Joule)

Sellier and Bellot Bullets:
- 9,3mm ; (.364); 193grTeilmantel Flachkopf (soft flat nose) ; 100 pieces= 21,73 EURO, 500 pieces= 100,98 EURO, 1000 pieces 192,25 Euro .

- 9,3 mm ; (.366); 285gr. Teilmantel Rundkopf (soft round nose) ; 100 pieces = 19,60 EURO, 500 pieces = 89,48 Euro, 1000pieces = 170,77 Euro.

RWS .366 diameter:
226gr. (14,5g) Doppel Kern (DK) Bullet per 50 pieces = 36,35Euro
247gr. (16,0g) Kegelspitz (KS) Bullet -,,- 33,59Euro
258gr. (16,7g) H-Mantel Kupferhohlspitz -,,- 44,89Euro
285gr. (18,5g) Vollmamtel (solid) -,,- 44,89Euro
285gr. (18,5g) Teilmantel (softpoint) -,,- 26,43Euro
293gr. (19,0g) TUG -,,- 44,84Euro

the cheaper line of RWS is called GECO, and they do have a bullet in 9,3mm too:
.366 diameter 255gr 16,0g TMR (softpoint) 50 pieces 15,70 EURO

And Blaser do have a 9,3mm Bullet too, the CDP (controlled deformation process)
9,3mm 18,5 g 50 pieces 48,57 Euro

And Norma has some 9,3mm bullets too:

232 gr (15,0g) TM PPC Vulkan 100pieces 54,20Euro
231 gr (15,0g) solid spire -,,- 35,28Euro
286 gr (18,5g) ORYX -,,- 65,45Euro
286 gr (18,5g) Alaska 50 pieces 28,10Euro

So i hope that will help, if u are interested in the different types of bullet take a look to these websides:

http://www.norma.cc

http://www.blaser.de/english/produkte/accessories/munition.htm

to take a look at the TIG and TUG Bullet (RWS=Brenneke side)
http://www.brenneke.de
=>choose english language,products,rifle bullets..click on TIG or either TUG to see them.

So if u do have any further questions, you know how to reach me.
cheers and Waidmannsheil
konstantin

Konst,

We've got to stop encouraging these US guys, next thing we'll know 9.3s will be common - can't have that! I never knew that RWS did a solid.

Whereabouts are you in Berlin? I did 2 years there before the Wall came down, used to shoot at Rose Ranges at the weekend but never got to do any stalking. I did have a near miss with a 'GrunePig' on exercise though! 7.62 blanks made them angry!

Chus,

1894

Konst, I was in East and West Berlin six months before "The Wall" came down... I understand the East-Berlin has changed!

I love those Deutsch names... Kegelspitz, Kupferhohlspitz, Teilmantel...

Brad

Hey 1894 and Brad,
i live in Steglitz, �t isn�t far away from the rod and gun club which is located in Wansee. I spent a lot of time there with my dad.
The shooting area still exists, it is now "inhabitat" by the DEVA.
Man i have to tell u how i miss this "fine food" . Not that i live from burgers and chili, but what they deserved there in former times was much better than now. I think i never have eaten better burgers than there. Not to forget that we also could by there ammo for a bargain.
Do u do some hunting in England 1894?
Feel Free to send me a message to my e-mail account.
konstantin

P.S. which 9,3mm you guys shoot?

Konst, wie gehts. I'm going to be in Germany for 2 months this summer studying in Dresden. I am getting a 9,3 and have been looking for reloading components. I got to thinking about seriously looking while I was in Germany. Can you tell me any places where I can go and browse to look for brass and bullets? I' be going to Berlin a couple times and some places in between. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

Konst,

You have mail.

hey carr 45 / 70,
i think i can help u And surely will
When will u come to germany in summer?
In Germany we do have 2 big (Frankonia and Esuard Kettner) and a lot of small hunting-shops and B�chsenmacher who sell equipment, Guns, and reloading supply.
But i do have some "sources" where i can ask for some special offers.
So if u can tell me what are you looking for, i can ask for some offers.
But i can give u some links:
www.cema-waffen.de
www.henke-online.de
www.patricks-home.de/inthuntlnk.html

So i think there u can take a look, and see if u find something interesting.
cheers
konstantin

Yesterday, I called upon the local Hirtenberger importer and was amazed to find that their factory 9,3x74R ammo was loaded with 270 g SP bullets, manufactured by...SIERRA, as stated on the box ! I never saw a .366 bullet in any Sierra catalog, does somebody knows more ?

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Andr�

Hey,
i have taken a look in my list and couldn�t find such a bullet from Sierra.
Only a Speer 270g TM-semispitz bullet.
Where do they get these bullets? Have you already contacted Hirtenberger?
let us know more about, if you have further Informations.

But on the Hirtenberger Side http://www.hirtenberger.at/daten/ballistische_daten.htm
, i found them

9,3 x 74 R 17,5 270 Sierra !!

I presume they were just lazy. The rest of the "plain vanilla" SP bullets are from Sierra, so they just ignored the one made by Speer ( I think so ) and thought nobody would care.

I talked to their sales personnel and they don�t know nuthin�.

In the near future there will be a 9.3x62 with ABC bullet.

Good shooting! Hermann

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