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Hello, If you could only have or load 1 load for a 30.06 what would it be. The rifle is to be used in the west hunting Deer, Elk and Bear. 100-300 yards. I have always used Winchester 165gr "silvertips" but am running low and cant find them any more. Lets hear your opinions please. Thanks Greg ..."its not a collection if you only have one".... | ||
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Hornady Interloks in the 165 gr have worked very well for me in Colorado. Don't always exit an elk but they still take them down and the penetration is more than sufficient to take the bullet to the off side hide on a lung/shoulder shot. Or might even consider the 165 gr Barnes TSX I know that bullet will work quite well. | |||
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A 180 gr. bullet with 56 gr. IMR4350. | |||
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aq 180 accubind will do it all and with room to spare. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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The one .30-'06 load I have used for the last 40 years in the U.S. and Canada for all sizes of game is surplus G.I. brass, Winchester or RWS primers, either 53.0 or 54.0 grains (whichever is most accurate in a particular rifle) H-4831 (not short cut), and 200 grain Nosler Partitions. It is a heavy enough bullet that it does not explode on small thin skinned animals, and a heavy enough bullet that it does penetrate clear through moose lengthwise. I have used this load in rifles from the Remington 742 autoloader carbine through all kinds of bolt action guns...mainly though, in my Winchester pre-war Model 70 standard weight. It is not an ideal 500 yard load because of the trajectory at long, unknown distances, but does just fine at 300+ long paces. It is NOT satisfactory for use in a Garand because of the high muzzle end port pressure. My country gal's just a moonshiner's daughter, but I love her still. | |||
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I bugger about a lot with loads with my 30.06 but really and truly could do everything I need to in Europe with a 180gr Hornady interlock and 60gr H4831SC. It's not the fastest load but shoots three touching from my rifle and does the job out to 400 yards at least. | |||
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Since you have been using 165gr, stick with that. Any premium bullet should work, just go with the one that is accurate in your rifle at the velocity you want. Have gun- Will travel The value of a trophy is computed directly in terms of personal investment in its acquisition. Robert Ruark | |||
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That is easy, the 200 gr. Nosler Partition at 2700 FPS..I would and have hunted most of the worlds soft skinned game including Eland and Cape Buffalo with that load. It would be my choice for deer, antelope and elk also, but the 180 gr. Nosler bullet at the same velocity is excellent choice also for the NA continient, except for the big bears and it will work on them for sure, but I feel better with the 200 gr...It is a superb elk load even on going away Texas Heart shots in close range Idaho timber. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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57grs IMR4350 + 165gr NP. Or a 165gr Corelokt. I've tried this load in several '06s and it's been a good one every time. Aim for the exit hole | |||
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Interesting comments, no clear cut winner but I did ask for opinions. I was actually considering loading a round of 165 NP's. I have always liked the Noslers. ..."its not a collection if you only have one".... | |||
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A 180 grs NP would have almost the same trajectory, and pack a bit more punch. M | |||
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I have been successfully using Barnes 165 gr Triple Shocks on everything up through elk as well as on my safari this year. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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Have actually only used the 30-06 in Africa but my load was with a 220gr Nosler Partition and it had no problem on everything up thru Wildebeest. Many animals taken from Impala up. That with my 375H&H I would feel adequately prepared for any occaison. SCI Life Member NRA Patron Life Member DRSS | |||
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same load but I use a 180 grain nosler partition. | |||
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For tough hunts away from home I would do the same, but they are very expensive over here and the hornady does everything below bear and moose. That's more of a personally imposed limit than a reflection on the bullet but a 180gr NP or 200gr Accubond just makes me feel a little better for really big stuff.  | |||
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How about 168gr Ballistic Tips or Combined Tech Ballistic Silver Tips | |||
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I would but unfortunately you wanted them....  | |||
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150 grain TTSX. Will do everything a 165 or 180 grain jacketed bullet will do, while shooting flatter and faster. | |||
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I guess I dont get that concerned with "speed" of the bullet. I am more concerned with accuracy and bullet energy. Bullet speed=energy but faster isnt always better, so i would agree with your statement. Thanks Greg Another reason I've asked this is because I also have a 300 Win Mag. But the .06 have always been my go to. ..."its not a collection if you only have one".... | |||
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 Personally the 180 or 200 grain NP would be hard to beat at 06 velocities. For that matter most of the cup and core would be fine unless you're expecting full penetration with Texas heart shots on bull moose. Don't see how you can go wrong.  rogerOld age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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Thanks, Personally this is something I would NEVER do. But good to know in case the demons in my head win out. ..."its not a collection if you only have one".... | |||
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The more i use the 200 N P in my 06 the more i like it @2700, its effective on the really small stuff like impala,/ chamios,hog deer etc, and on the bigger stuff like Sambar sable kudu zebra Brown Bear s lacks absolutley nothing The 180 @2850-2900 is not a bad choice either | |||
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This load is an accurate load,that has made many nonbelievers into believers,when it comes to reloading,as they can shoot under a M.O.A. Sierra 165 SBT IMR 4895 (45 gr's) Any Large rifle primer. BB34 | |||
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Same as I said for the 300 Win, probably the 168gr TSX. Not sure on the powder, I haven't reloaded for a 30-06 before (never actually owned one either!) but I'm going to swallow some pride after years of never supporting it, and try! Got one on layaway (although it was the gun that made the decision, not the caliber) If you think every possible niche has been filled already, thank a wildcatter! | |||
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I'd probably use whatever 180 grain or 200 grain controlled-expansion bullet shot best in the rifle. I'd avoid the softer cup and core bullets (speer, sierra, Nosler balistic tip, etc). | |||
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I really like the "one load for everything" and do exactly that most of the time... When i lived where their were big bears, i carried 200NP's all the time in my 30-06's and 300 mags, but for the rest of the US, i would carry 180NP's. DM | |||
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Both of my 30-06's are loaded with 180gr Sierra Pro Hunter bullets and IMR4350. | |||
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180 gr. Swift A-Frames and RL-19.  | |||
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I am suprised the TSX doesn't get better press here. I've used 165g tsx's on interior grizzly, dall sheep and mule deer with great results. I had excellent penetration, accuracy and expansion. When I took the my 30-06 to Africa a couple of years ago I used the 180g tsx on kudu, impala and bushbuk with the same results mentioned above. I wouldn't think twice about using the 165g tsx on all lower 48 game. | |||
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54.5 grs IMR 4350 behind a 180 gn Hornady interlock. I think the velocity was about 2750 fs.. I also use this load with accubonds. AK-47 The only Communist Idea that Liberals don't like. | |||
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+1  Dave DRSS Chapuis 9.3X74 Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL Krieghoff 500/.416 NE Krieghoff 500 NE "Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer" "If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition). | |||
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My one load for everything load in my 30/06 is 56 grains of IMR-4350, CCI or WW primers with WW brass and a 180 grain Sierra SPBT. Very accurate and works perfect for me on Numerous Elk, Deer, Antelope, Bighorn Sheep, Mountain Goat, Coyotes, Marmots, Hogs, Ravens etc. I tried Speer, and Accubonds in the same weight with less than stellar results. Partitions don't give me the same accuracy so I stick with Sierra. | |||
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I see one load depends on who is using the rifle, I see a lot of recommendations doting on the 165 gr. bullets and I suppose they work pretty good on local stuff..but if confined to one load are you ready to take on an Alaskan Brown bear, or a African Cape buffalo or Lion, even and elephant..If so your backside is showing...but you can use a 220 gr. Nosler and any of Africas big 5 IMO, and get away with it, even on elephant, great on Lion, good enough on buffalo and hippo, and on elephant with a heart shot,not ideal but it'll do if you ain't got anything better..I know many an African that has made it work including Phil Shoemakers son while guiding in Africa. His backup was a 30-06 and he is still around. I have shot buffalo, hippo and backed up on lion with the 220 gr. Nosler... My favorite options is a 200 gr. Nosler at 2700 FPS for all but buffalo Hippo and Elaphant, I really prefer a 404 for those 3 buggers, if I have the option. Given on a bet or a one year free hunt to walk from the cape to the Kenya border and live off tha land, and I had to pack all my gear on my body, then the 30-06 and 220 gr. GS Customs Flat nose solids would be my choice. that is the only true ALL AROUND LOAD IN THE 30-06. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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168 TSX or TTSX over stout charge of 4350. Everything I've used that load on was dumped on the spot. First few were TSX bullets, last 2 were with TTSX. Sure 180s and 200s are nice but I prefer a better blend of speed with good bullet wt. Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns | |||
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Ray, the question regards western lower 48 hunting, not Africa or anywhere else. I'd not prefer a heavy bullet in the -06 for this particular application for velocity/ trajectory reasons. The 165g tsx shoots flatter and penetrates well. | |||
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When your as worldly as old Ray it's hard to speak about just one region of earth I agree with your opinion about the 165g tsx | |||
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I bought a Blaser K95 in 30-06 a few weeks ago, and I bought 800 rounds of RWS 184 gr Rap-X ammo from Midway. Fortunately, my gun seems to really get along well with it, so I figure that will be my "one load" for my only 30-06.  | |||
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I expect these results will vary from one rifle to another, but when I was comparing on the chrony with my rifle I got little or nothing more out of the 165's than I did the 180's. That means the 180's will actualy cary flatter and farther, at least from my rifle. I do believe that the 165'ish slugs are the optimum from a .308 win though. YMMV. AK-47 The only Communist Idea that Liberals don't like. | |||
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All shots under 300yds, I like 180gr Sierra GameKing, CCI large rifle standard primer, Win case, 52gr IMR 4350 COAL 3.33inches. This is not a fast load. It is an extremely accurate load in every 30-06 I have ever owned. We Band of Bubbas N.R.A Life Member TDR Cummins Power All The Way Certified member of the Whompers Club | |||
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he had someone other than himself load his ammo. He may have on occasion also used some 165 gr. Nosler partitions.