Seems to me the dumbest thing I have ever heard was when I asked a friend about his choice of dangerous game rifle. Should have known.....

7mmRemington magnum,"its the most powerful flat shooting rifle in the world." So I ask him if sighted in 2" high at 100yds how much does it drop at 600yds...the response,"It doesn't. It shoots flat. No hold over required."

After showing him several of my big bore rifles and asking him if he still thought it was the most powerful and he has refused to speak to me for years.

No Loss.

Did I mention he also buys lots of used cars and wonders why they don't run well.

Why is it that there is more dumbshit out there associated with the 7 mag than any other round? My friends all agree that it is barely more than an '06, but for some unknown reason there is an awful lot of misinformation and downright stupidity surrounding this particular cartridge.

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Originally posted by drewhenrytnt:
Why is it that there is more dumbshit out there associated with the 7 mag than any other round? My friends all agree that it is barely more than an '06, but for some unknown reason there is an awful lot of misinformation and downright stupidity surrounding this particular cartridge.

The reason for the Dumbshit associated with this chambering is that a 7mmMag is as much rifle as most people will actually ever need... if not slightly more...

But frankly I see as much dumbshit associated with the miracle of the tumbling bullet
from 223Rem, the "explosive" effects from a 22-250 or 220Sift....

or the dumbshit that suggests that loading heavy (200-220gr) bullets in a 30-06 makes it suitable for Brown Bear...


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The 308 is not a suitable deer round.But the 7-08 and 260 is.

Once had a guide tell me the drop on his 7mm Rem Mag was 2" at 500 yds. And I don't think he meant that it was sighted in about a foot high at 100 yds either!

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Originally posted by Allan DeGroot:

or the dumbshit that suggests that loading heavy (200-220gr) bullets in a 30-06 makes it suitable for Brown Bear...


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Obviously!
Everybody knows a 30/06 and 180 grain bullets are all you need for Brown Bear...

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What's the STUPIDIST thing you've ever heard?

Well this comes close

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The reason for the Dumbshit associated with this chambering is that a 7mmMag is as much rifle as most people will actually ever need... if not slightly more...

But frankly I see as much dumbshit associated with the miracle of the tumbling bullet
from 223Rem, the "explosive" effects from a 22-250 or 220Sift....

or the dumbshit that suggests that loading heavy (200-220gr) bullets in a 30-06 makes it suitable for Brown Bear...

How about saw? A guy handed my friend and me a spent cartridge from his Browning 7 mm Mag BAR and wanted to know why the bottom of the cartridge had ruptured. In fact, he had told us a week or so earlier his rifle had not been grouping well.

Well, it only took a quick glance to see that he had handed us a 270 Winchester case.... Now, how he could have mistaken that for a 7mm Mag, especially with belted versus beltless, was beyond us - and yes, the offset firing impression on the primer.

What a dumbass.

I had a guy come into the gun shop and tell me that he shoots 25-06 in his 30-06 because they shoot flatter, when I tried to tell him that they were to different cal. he said "NO the only difference is the 25-06 is a lighter bullet". I just looked at him and said I'll go get you sign now.

And about anyone who shoots 7MM mags they all seem to now more than anyone else in the room, even if they have only shot 3 deer in thier life they are the experts!

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Originally posted by Allan DeGroot:
or the dumbshit that suggests that loading heavy (200-220gr) bullets in a 30-06 makes it suitable for Brown Bear...
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Funny, Phil Shoemaker has said in print that the 30-06 is suitable for brown bear.....

I guess you can add him to your list of dumbshits.

"I had to sell my Barrett cause my wife said it was just too big"...Now picture this, the guy that told me this was sitting in the living room of his single wide trailer from 1964. and his idea of a high end hand gun was a Hi-point.

Me:"Can I see that muzzleloader on the end of the rack"
Dicks Sporting goods salesman:"sure man, this is a special rifle cause its a Bone Collector"
Me:Why is that?
Dicks: Dont you know who Brandon Waddell is?
Me: Sure do...
Dicks: Well, he shoots all these rifles before they are released for sale. Thats why they are 2 times more expensive than all the others
Me: Just go ahead and keep that rifle on the rack man...

I was at a gun store in WV over the Christmas holiday. I noticed a Remington 458 Win Mag ont he wall. It was the Mauser version that is being sold right now for like $550 brand new in the box. I asked to see it cause I thought it was new. Clerk hands me the rifle, I look at the price tag and it says $850 and this thing has been nearly shot to death. I ask why it was so much, the clerk says to me "Cause its a big bore rifle and they take more metal to make the actions and barrels, so the price of the rifle goes up"....I pulled out my Droid X cell phone, got on gunbroker and showed him brand new ones being sold for $550. They refused to take less than $700 for the rifle cause it was a "big bore"...

In mid 2009 I was preparing for archery season in FL. I was mainly hoping to shoot a pig, even though deer season was in as well. I was speaking with a buddy and he said he just got a new Savage rifle and would like to go rifle hunting when the season opened up. I said sure man! He then proceeds to tell me how awesome his rifle is and how great it shoots. Tehn proceeds to tell me he just purchased the rifle 1 month prior and has yet to even shoot it! I tell him he needs to shoot it cause he needs to be a decent shot to hit a pig cause they dont exactly sit still for very long. He then proceeds to tell me that the rifle was good to go, cause when he purchased the rifle from Dicks they bore sighted it for him and the clerk said it would be good to go!

Thats all I have for now, im sure I got lots more cause I grew up around alot of hillbillies in WV...

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Originally posted by Brando:
.....cause when he purchased the rifle from Dicks they bore sighted it for him and the clerk said it would be good to go!

I've heard so many similar accounts that I reckon Dicks was named for something other then the founder.....

I walked in my local gun shop sometime ago and the proprietor, know to be a bit of a codger, was standing there looking dumbfounded. Needless to say, that was a bit out of sorts for him. I asked how he was doing and he told me about a customer who had left the shop a few minutes before my arrival.

That customer had looked at a few lower priced guns and after not buying anything, did the Columbo "one more thing" turn and asked the owner if he could tell him what kind of bullet he had been shot with while pointing to a bullet wound on his left shoulder. Apparently a local cop (also friends with the owner) told him to come to this shop for the answer to that question when he was released from the hospital with a through and through bullet wound.

My friend replied; "Sorry, I left my bullet wound indicator gauge at home today", he then offered to bring it in the next day, but the customer did not return to the shop again.

Almost as stupid as those guys who talk like they are smart on Internet fourms, but have never shot anything but a few whitetail deer from their trailers in the woods...

Dumbest thing I ever heard?

"Watch this!"

One of the funniest things I ever heard was "It's too heavy for it's caliber!"
My apologies, Will!

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Originally posted by friarmeier:

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Originally posted by surestrike:
I meet a guy while muzzle loader elk hunting one day.... He thought those "little red plastic things" the sabot bullets come with were for packaging and safely shipping the bullets!! He also claimed that he was having "some" issues with accuracy with these new fangled sabots!!!

Did you tell him what the sabots were for? What did he say if you did?

Wow!

friar

Yeah I tried to educate him but he seemed pretty sure of himself. There just ain't no cure for stupid.


Now on to the 7MM I have to agree that there are more idiots using this caliber than just about anything out there.

And there is really nothing wrong with a 7MM except that it barely flatter shooting than a .30-06. And as far as kill it's pretty close to same if not slightly under an 06. They are basically in the same category. But there is a special breed of hunters and shooters who are sold on the myth of the 7MM.

Maybe the MM at the end of the 7 actually stands for "Morons Magnum".

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Originally posted by drewhenrytnt:
Why is it that there is more dumbshit out there associated with the 7 mag than any other round? My friends all agree that it is barely more than an '06, but for some unknown reason there is an awful lot of misinformation and downright stupidity surrounding this particular cartridge.

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I think the 270 WSM is the new 7mag as far as stupid claims being said about it. One Guy told me it hits an animal harder than his 338 win mag did. Iasked him what load he shot in his 338 . He said 250 gr Partitions. He's too old to slap some sense into. So I try not to talk to him.

on a topic here on the AR forum a person asked for loads for a "6mm" and 10 people posted data. When I jumped them for puting out data when they were not even sure what the cartridge he was talking about was I was told by a moderator that "every one here knew that he was talking about a 6mm Remington"

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Originally posted by TEANCUM:
I heard one about a guy selling a rifle on GB referring to bidders as "Penny Lurkers".

Apparently that is reserved for people who bid $.01 opening bid on those auctions with no reserve.

The stupidest thing is the seller is calling the buyer, who followed the GB rules a fraud after the seller backed out of the sale!!!!!!!!

Absolutely Hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is still tops in my book.

The seller posts here with all the authority that he heaps upon himself.

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Originally posted by RaySendero:
Guys,

This thread just proves "We have to hear the story whether we love the braggers or hate'em".

I personnally love to hear their stories, And LOL wonder how on earth they expect anyone to believe'em???

However the best one I ever witnessed wasn't about firarms, so hope y'all are OK If I tell it:

Many years ago, I got in with a bunch of Alabama coon hunters. They LOVED to brag on their dogs! They would typically make a camp fire and let the dogs loose. Usually we would have some time around the fire before the dogs hit. This was their BRAGGING TIME. It had gotten so bad that they started a bet! If one was called on a brag and could not prove it, he had to pay all the others a $1 (Yes it was a long time ago). If someone called him and he could prove it all had to pay him a $1.

So...One night Larry was bragging on his dog - That he had to tape up one of the dogs nostrils to keep him from running 2 coons at the same time!? Yeah he was called on it - So since the dogs had not hit yet they all called them back to let Larry's dog try to run 2 coons alone.

When Larry' dog ran back in he still had the tape on on side of his nose!!!

You Win!!!!!!!!! I'm a coon hunter and I 've been around those same type of mentally challenged dudes too. Thanks for the laugh Ray.

"Other than that Mrs. Kennedy, did you enjoy your time here in Texas"?

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Originally posted by JBrown:

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Originally posted by Allan DeGroot:
or the dumbshit that suggests that loading heavy (200-220gr) bullets in a 30-06 makes it suitable for Brown Bear...
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Funny, Phil Shoemaker has said in print that the 30-06 is suitable for brown bear.....

I guess you can add him to your list of dumbshits.

Another bear "deep 06'ed"! Oh ya, with a single pipsqueak 180gr TTSX Federal factory load...

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Almost as stupid as those guys who talk like they are smart on Internet fourms, but have never shot anything but a few whitetail deer from their trailers in the woods...

Ouch

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Originally posted by SST:
Dumbest thing I ever heard?

"Watch this!"

Dumbest thing I ever heard?

"Hold my beer and Watch this!"

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Another bear "deep 06'ed"! Oh ya, with a single pipsqueak 180gr TTSX Federal factory load...

That's impossible..You can't kill a bear with a Ruger!

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That's impossible..You can't kill a bear with a Ruger!

Much less a 30-06 Ruger.

Nice bear.

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Originally posted by RaySendero:
Guys,

This thread just proves "We have to hear the story whether we love the braggers or hate'em".

I personnally love to hear their stories, And LOL wonder how on earth they expect anyone to believe'em???

I should be paying you guys for all this entertainment!

Many thanks - love to hear them!

God bless,

friar

PWS

Nice bear and would love to hear the story behind it.

My guess is that somewhere in that story is a comment about "shot placement". In the anti-.223 crowd that is a foul term and invokes outrage and lectures on experiences of which they have none so be careful to avoid that inciting term!!!!

First, no offense intended toward Allan DeGroot. It's just that an '06 on big bears isn't necessarily "the STUPIDIST thing". The literature on big bears is FULL of plenty of clean kills with an '06. It is true that placement is paramount and it is STUPID to use a less than premium bullet but an '06 "in the hands of an accurate man is a wicked weapon" (to quote Grancel Fitz).

I wasn't the shooter - my "one gun" buddy killed it. He's got one rifle and is walking death with it. We'd spent ten days beachcombing on Afognak last spring, passing up a few dinks. Then, one rainy afternoon, this guy popped out of the brush just long enough for us to confirm it was an adult male so we took off down the beach after it. He was headed to a little lagoon were the beach rye was starting to send up some tender green shoots. We didn't see him until about 30 yards away when we made out his broadside outline in the brush to the right. He saw us about the same time.

I gotta say it was SOOOOOooooo nice that my buddy had a tag (the reason we were there in the first place) as the bear stepped out rather aggressively - like a "you're in MY rye patch and I'm gonna stomp you for it!". Without much ado, my pal wacked him right on the shoulder and the bear's demeanor immediately went from aggressive to Oh, Oh, Oh, I'm DYIN'!!! I thought he broke it's shoulder but it was flesh all the way. The bear flopped around, tried to run, subsided pretty quickly and was dead by the time we advanced the 30 yards slowly. Turns out the bullet went right over his heart and into his guts (couldn't find it at the autopsy).

Anyway, a bit of a hijack.

DrewhenryTNT is right, what is it about a 7Mag that brings out the best? I had a dumbass farmhand explain to me once that his buddies 7Mag was too powerful to hit a golfball at 100 yards - you had to put it out further, like 300. Not sure exactly what he meant but something like the bullet would just whistle through at the close ranges...?

The post titled - "The greatest cartridge introduced in the 20th century" in this forum.

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Originally posted by theback40:
One of best ones I heard was on another forum.
A fellow said he made a 440 yd shot across a canyon on a rockchuck with his 30-30 and iron sights. When someone called BS he said "I paced it off", 200 yds down, 40 yds across the canyon floor, 200 yds back up the other side. I loved that one!

Sounds like at least 440 to me. Wonder if he factored in the wind rise problem on a shot like that.

I just read on another forum a guy who was asking for suggestions on which gun to purchase for deer hunting. He had been shooting and hunting with the rifles of his friends (and he was very proficient, too), but he felt it was time to get his own. He added that he liked to take head shots out to 200 yds. Someone questioned him on that and he reassured them that he had lots of experience doing just that with his friend's 30-06. In his original post he had stated that he was 20 years old.

It was someone like him that had shot a deer's lower jaw off a couple of years ago. I killed the deer to save it from a long and agonizing death by starvation.

My buddy (30 years ago) asking me to "shoot him in the back" with a .22 lr loaded with a shot shell, " those things are a joke they won't even leave a mark"

We spent the whole day shooting, burned up a pile of ammo and all I had left was a handful of .22 shot shells. Shortly there after bordom set in and he had the brainstorm.

In a gun shop some years back, some guy was looking at a Ruger Mark 1 .22 semi-auto pistol. He pushed the safety on and off a few times then asked the shop owner " F and S, does that stand for fast and slow?" And he was serious!

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Originally posted by Nimrod308:
In a gun shop some years back, some guy was looking at a Ruger Mark 1 .22 semi-auto pistol. He pushed the safety on and off a few times then asked the shop owner " F and S, does that stand for fast and slow?" And he was serious!

Now that is funny!

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Originally posted by doubledown:
My buddy (30 years ago) asking me to "shoot him in the back" with a .22 lr loaded with a shot shell, " those things are a joke they won't even leave a mark"

We spent the whole day shooting, burned up a pile of ammo and all I had left was a handful of .22 shot shells. Shortly there after bordom set in and he had the brainstorm.

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Originally posted by jwp475:

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Originally posted by friarmeier:
I'm bored and thought I'd share what might be the dumbest thing I've ever heard about shooting:

I'm at a bbq a while back, just shooting the breeze with no one in particular, when this 3rd guy interjects that "if you're shooting a really long ways, like between ridges over a ravine or canyon, then the wind actually blows the bullet 'up' as it goes over the valley."

He was comparing this to thermals that hawks and whatnot would ride. I'm familiar with that, of course, but a bullet? That'd have to be one hell of a thermal.

I've known this person for a while, and he's the kind that is always telling some glory story from his past, where he's either the expert or the hero. So at this point I just smile to myself and pretend I never heard him.

Sheesh, what an Einstein!

What's the dumbest thing you've heard?

friar

There is actualy some truth to what he said. If for instnce you are shooting into a head wind that crosse a ridge and then goes upward as in an updraft, then yes then wind prevents the bullet from dropping as much as normal. Much like a side wind that pushes a bullet over

Very true. Air flow in mountainous and hilly country can often become nearly vertical, often with substantial velocity, either flowing up or down, as several light aircraft pilots have discovered to their ultimate dismay.

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Originally posted by PWS:
(couldn't find it at the autopsy).

Autopsy is for people and necropsy is for animals.

Here's some good BS

This is up there in my book:

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:

if Nugent appeared on TV this evening proclaiming his loyalty to PETA and all it stands for, I would not be surprised or shocked.

My favorite was from the deranged, whacked-out crackhead that shot at me one night from twenty yards with a snub .38. Bullet hit a garage wall a foot over my head, and he later told the judge, "your honor, i wasnt shootn' to kill Sgt. Harris, i was in vietnam, if id wanted to hit him i woulda."