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What's the STUPIDIST thing you've ever heard?
18 October 2010, 03:43
jeffeossoWhat's the STUPIDIST thing you've ever heard?
a gouger mountain commando, selling a naughty black rifle, told the would be mall ninja "look, man, i have to tell you this - stage whisper- NEVER use 223 remington in this rifle .. that's the civilian stuff and won't stop "the BAD GUY" nearly as well a the real deal military 5.56MM Naayh Toe"
no, really, he said 5.56MM was a MUCH better stopper than .223 rem
18 October 2010, 04:17
Sevensquote:
Originally posted by sksshooter:
quote:
Originally posted by Doc:
Well, I didn't actually "hear" it but read it on a different forum I was looking at. Over on long range hunting.
Apparently there are some hunters and guides/outfitters who truly believe there is taboo with a 7mm bullet and that this diameter has some inherent flaw and is #1 in losing game.
ive heard that several times from a couple of different hunters and for a long time somwhat believed it. i still believe it but not because there is something wrong with the bullet but something wrong with the people who buy them. seems that alot of people just want to get a gun to go shoot/hunt with and they know of 2 guns a 30-06 or they can get the bad to the bone 7 mag. they they take them out there with the cheapest box of bullets they can buy and shoot at a paper plate at 50 yards and if they hit the plate then its good enough to hunt with since a deer is bigger than that play ya know. they they think since they got that big bad 7 mag they can kill deer at 1000 yds and they start shooting.
Reminds me of this time I was talking to this Rancher about hunting the bison on his ranch. He said they are so dangerous that he and a friend of his back you up in case of a charge. I asked with what caliber rifles (expecting to hear 375, 416, etc). His reply, "A 7mm Mag and a 45-70."

18 October 2010, 06:21
Bruce RI want to change my answer. I heard a guy on a message board once say he thought something he said to his teenaged daughter would stop her from kissing boys. That has to be the hands down winner.

18 October 2010, 07:17
friarmeierYou guys are the best stress relief I've had in a long time!

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18 October 2010, 08:28
DWrightSeveral years back, I was hangin out in the local gun shop, swappin stories with the local boys. An older gentleman we had never seen before walks in and decides he wants to join the conversation.
According to him, he had an old 'special built' military .30-06 that had an 'extra twist' in the barrel that caused it to shoot completely flat out to 500 yards. Said he shot ground squirrels at that 500 yard range, with absolutely no hold over at all, with only the standard peep sights!. . . . .

(that boy must have been one hell of a shot!)

The room fell silent, and a few of the locals suddenly remembered someplace they had to be. . . .

Since I quit building houses and started working in that shop now for the last 2 years, I have lot's of stories. . . . but I think that one is right up there.
18 October 2010, 09:25
500Nquote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
a gouger mountain commando, selling a naughty black rifle, told the would be mall ninja "look, man, i have to tell you this - stage whisper- NEVER use 223 remington in this rifle .. that's the civilian stuff and won't stop "the BAD GUY" nearly as well a the real deal military 5.56MM Naayh Toe"
no, really, he said 5.56MM was a MUCH better stopper than .223 rem
That is one of the best one'e I have ever heard.
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18 October 2010, 10:20
Teat Houndquote:
Originally posted by Doc:
quote:
Originally posted by sksshooter:
probably the best one ive heard lately was a leo at the gun store. he had his 8-10 yr old with him and there was a 50bmg barret on the counter. he was telling his son how bad that rifle was. he told the boy if the bullet just gets close to you the shock from it can kill you. i just shook my head. the boy then asked what the thing on the end of the barrel was for he said thats so it doesn kick so hard that it breaks your arm and if you stand beside the gun when someone shoots it all the pressure coming out the sides of it can kill you.
Sometimes fathers tell their children things more to humor themselves or for protection. Of course this guy could have just been ignorant.
But, as for me, I know I tell my kids things to prevent them from doing things I don't want them to do. Case in point, my daughter will be 16 early next year. She's gone to some school dances, prom, etc. I tell her that if she thinks about kissing a boy, just remember, he brushes his teeth about half as many times as she does. Then I show them pictures of gingivitis, and disgusting teeth, or an oral surgery on youtube due to poor dental care. That seems to turn on a red warning light.

BTW, the look on her and her friend's faces when telling them about the lack of teeth brushing is priceless, since they are so lazy about it themselves. My kids brush 3x/day when I police them. Otherwise, they'd probably go a day or so, which is disgusting.
That is a good one. My oldest is close to that age, so I'm going to parasite your warning.
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18 October 2010, 16:28
Docits really self entertainment. I really can't think of anything that will stop teens from acting on curiousity, but it is very funny to see the faces.
Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns
18 October 2010, 17:23
Tyler Kemp"Now this 30-30 bolt action shoots a whole lot flatter and faster than them lever-actions, boy."
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18 October 2010, 17:59
onefunzr2Ralph the electrician was hanging around the butcher shop one Saturday in doe season. I chased everyone outside as I rinsed the floor clean. Just then 3 shots rang out on the nearby mountain. Blam, blam...blam! "Reloads" said Ralph, as he nodded his head knowingly. He never explained how he knew. We never asked.
18 October 2010, 20:58
CCMDocquote:
Originally posted by ldkier:
there was a guy who purchased a 12 gauge pistol gripped home defense shot gun from my local dealer. About a week later, came to the shop equipped with stitches and a HUGE black, green, red and brown right cheek and eye. He complained to my dealer that the gun kicked WAY to much, and wanted to trade it in on a smaller gauge. He also DEMANDED that the dealer give him better instuction on how to "aim" the shotgun and whether he should have positioned the gun more in the center of his face so he could use BOTH eyes for "aiming"
Where do I send the bill? You owe me a new keyboard!

I'm still laughing ...
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18 October 2010, 21:05
D B CooperI worked for a Supervisor named Roy. Roy was a 6'3" 300+lb barrel with broom sticks for arms and legs. At any given time he had been a Navy SEAL, Marine Force Recon, etc. depending on the story.
When he retired the processing clerk had him bring in his DD214. He brought it in saying that this was the only one she could use, because his "other one" was Top Secret.Turns out he had been a Lance Corporal Clerk/Typist at 29 Palms, CA.
We were talking hunting stories in the breakroom one day. I told of a time that I had lost a nice Mulie Buck because he ran into a Jack Pine thicket. I could see him , but couldn't get a clear shot.
Roy procedes to tell us that when this happens to him. He kneels down below the branches, puts the vertical cross-hair on the edge of the tree nearest the deer. Thereby richocheting the bullet off of the tree trunk, and nailing the deer with a "bank shot". It worked for him dozens of times.
Was also told by a Gun Shop "Expert" that a fired bullet will go straight out, as flat as a table, until it runs out of velocity, and then just falls on the ground. Bet you guys didn't know that? I didn't until he cleared it up for me.

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18 October 2010, 21:19
rcamugliaAn old dude at our club told a story of killing a mule deer at 1200 yards with his .300 Win Mag. He said he had it sighted in at 400, so for the shot he just held the crosshairs just over the back of the animal

But, seriously, here is the quote on the updrafts over canyons from Long Range Hunting:
quote:
Now on to “the” issue, elevation affected by wind blowing over certain terrain features. I believe that this gets a lot of people in the field simply because they just don’t realize that it is happening. The simplest example is to shoot down a canyon from the head with a head wind…a common midmorning occurrence. As the wind blows up the canyon life is normal but when it reaches the end it has to go somewhere. The only place for the wind to go is out by going up. If you are shooting across this effect it will lift the bullet as the bullet flies across this wind blowing up the face. How much lift becomes a matter of the angle of the face, velocity of the wind & the distance the effect is in place. If you will look at the diagram below we have a flat canyon bottom with a 45 degree face at the head end for the wind to blow into. We are shooting level out to a 600 yard target in a 10 mph headwind. If the 45 degree distance is ½ of our 600 yard shot, then 300 yards of the shot is affected by a .7 value 10 mph lift. It has the same values and windage but applied to elevation. The wind has in this case pushed our bullet up and we need to back off our elevation accordingly.
18 October 2010, 21:59
Jim KobeThen there was the guy who stopped by my table at the gunshow wanting to know if I would make him another 7mm Wby mag because it was such a flat shooter. I asked him what kind of a trajectory did it have.
He replied, "...well she drops a little out to abut 200yds but then she just flattens right out..."
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19 October 2010, 02:47
ted thornThis came strait from an AR member that lives in Idaho.
He killed 28 bull elk in 32 years all scored 350" or better. He said he sold all the racks. No proof of even 1
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19 October 2010, 03:13
Docquote:
Originally posted by ted thorn:
This came strait from an AR member that lives in Idaho.
He killed 28 bull elk in 32 years all scored 350" or better. He said he sold all the racks. No proof of even 1
holy cheeeyat! who posted that?
Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns
19 October 2010, 03:21
ted thornA sharpshooter from Idaho.
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19 October 2010, 05:37
wildcat junkiequote:
Originally posted by Grumulkin:
One friend told me that an M16 shot bullets so fast that if one hit you hand it would probably take your whole arm off.
Now THAT reminds me of the stupidest thing I ever heard regarding firearms.
When I was in basic training back in 1970, A drill instructor told our class "Da reason da M16 teh yo a$$ up is because it has dem grooves in da barrel dat makes da boolit tumble"!
19 October 2010, 05:44
sksshooteri just read a pretty good one a little while ago. while reading reviews on a loading press one of the reviers by the name of 257roberts posted that the press worked great for him because for his exotic brass he never reloads fired cases instead buys new brass and loads them so the press worked great for that. this was a review on a retailers website.
20 October 2010, 04:00
MoorepowerIt may actually be a thread on this forum about a guy that started a no reserve Gunbroker auction at .01 and then was pissed that some "Lurker" actually thought that since he won the auction, the guy should honer the agreement!
20 October 2010, 06:07
Phil Nquote:
Originally posted by Moorepower:
It may actually be a thread on this forum about a guy that started a no reserve Gunbroker auction at .01 and then was pissed that some "Lurker" actually thought that since he won the auction, the guy should honer the agreement!
Actually, he SHOULD honor the auction.
I know several people that have had their auctions won at rediculously low prices. They completed the transaction because as one of them put it "with these kinds of auctions....you takes your chances".
I have also seen people bid up to $200 over the "BIN" price! Duh!

So, IMO, they should honor the deal....if they have honor and principles.
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20 October 2010, 07:24
enfieldsparesHere in UK at the "view" before a public auction it is common to see someone pick up a side-by-side shot gun, put a finger down each muzzle, and exclaim "Hmm...about a quarter and full I think"!
20 October 2010, 07:27
RMillerCouldnt hit a deer at 50 yards because our rifles were sighted in for 100 yards :P
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20 October 2010, 11:47
bcpLeupold scopes are brighter than others. The gold ring lets in more light.
These 222's will work fine in your AR15. That's what the 5.56 was developed from.
Bruce
20 October 2010, 18:17
Hot CoreGreat thread! The only problem is where to start listing them. Perhaps in no particular order.

1. Here is a classic where
Bucko claimed a 22LR is the most effective Killer of all calibers.2.
400 Nitro Express - British Checkering is the "only" good checkering.3.
500N - stopping Charge"s" without aiming4.
A Haphazard SGS is better than CHE.5.
Echol's rifles are perfect and ALL OTHERS are trash.6.
The Worlds most Ignorant Reloading Suggestion!!!7.
Down-Loaded 22Hornet Deer Hunting Recommendation.8. "This Load works great in every 30-06(or whatever cartridge you desire) it has ever been shot in!!!"(Don't worry about the SAFETY aspects.)
9. The
Remington - Walker Trigger Design has "an Inherent Design Flaw".

10. Pre-64 M70s are the very best factory rifles ever made!!!!!!!!!

11. You should use Paper Target Bullets(MatchKings, Bergers, etc.) for Hunting Deer.
12. A 45gr Bullet is perfect for Deer Hunting in a 223Rem
" if " you can shoot.
13. It is all about "Placement", actual Energy available at the Point-of-Impact is meaningless.
14. A rifle that
can not outshoot a Savage or a
Remington is a much better rifle because it costs more.

15. The Professional Hunter told me to take the Head Shot on a Zebra at 300yds with my 223Rem - and of course I made it!
And on and on.
20 October 2010, 18:26
TailgunnerAnything posted by the following: Hot Core, DaManda, Waa-snatch, Colt 45.
21 October 2010, 04:54
TEANCUMquote:
Originally posted by Tailgunner:
Anything posted by the following: Hot Core, DaManda, Waa-snatch, Colt 45.
I agree with you with a limitation.
I think the domain belongs completely to Hotsh#t.
21 October 2010, 04:59
500Nquote:
Originally posted by Tailgunner:
Anything posted by the following: Hot Core, DaManda, Waa-snatch, Colt 45.
Agree, especially Hot Core.
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21 October 2010, 08:48
winbag3382 guns are 1, and 1 is none.
21 October 2010, 17:38
jro45This guy I know said he shot a metal box with his 460 and it killed a mouse inside it.
21 October 2010, 18:13
vapodogA guy once claimed that he could consistently shoot 3/4" groups at 200 yards with his 6.5 X 55 Swede in it's original Mauser configuration with the iron sights.
I suggested that there was some wishful thinking involved and he came on huffily claiming he was a military sniper and knew just how to do it.....
No different than a local guy here claiming .257 Weatherby velocities from his .257 Roberts AI....
Thanks to the ignore button they go away!
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22 October 2010, 07:09
friarmeierLatest issue of American Rifleman came today. They had an article on a Marlin 45-70.
Nice looking gun, of sorts...but did you notice the MSRP?
Something in the neighborhood of $1100!

Is this for real, or do I just need to come up for air more often?
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22 October 2010, 18:55
Red C.Hot-Core
That's a great list! Downloading suggestions for the 22 hornet--I thought of 22 LR.
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23 October 2010, 02:39
Hot CoreHey FriarMeier, I noticed that too. But, your local Gun Shop should have them for about 60% less, or at least mine did when I got my latest one.
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Can't believe I left off:
16. Blue Dot Reduced Loads, will never cause a problem!!!

And one of my favorites:
17. The always thought provoking -
Unfired Bullets hitting the Recoil Shield(???) of a Revolver. 
18.
Hunting "Mulies" with a 40gr Bullet in a 223Rem.19. I listed an item on an Auction Board(like I've done MANY times before which says I know what I'm doing), but..., a guy bid $0.01(which met the criteria of the Auction) and now I don't want to sell it to him.

24 October 2010, 01:24
TEANCUMquote:
Originally posted by TEANCUM:
quote:
Originally posted by Tailgunner:
Anything posted by the following: Hot Core, DaManda, Waa-snatch, Colt 45.
I agree with you with a limitation.
I think the domain belongs completely to Hotsh#t.
I think a case could be made to add Mr. Ethical, aka flock shooter, to this list!!!!!
24 October 2010, 04:03
Fat_AlbertA person that tells you that he knows what cartridge people are talking about by what the caliber is.
24 October 2010, 06:12
ted thornquote:
Originally posted by TEANCUM:
quote:
Originally posted by TEANCUM:
quote:
Originally posted by Tailgunner:
Anything posted by the following: Hot Core, DaManda, Waa-snatch, Colt 45.
I agree with you with a limitation.
I think the domain belongs completely to Hotsh#t.
I think a case could be made to add Mr. Ethical, aka flock shooter, to this list!!!!!
Who is flock shooter?
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25 October 2010, 08:35
scottfromdallasI've heard a lot of stupid things the last few days. All of them involve people blaming muzzle control while giving Remington a free pass for producing an unsafe gun for 50 years.
25 October 2010, 10:20
seafire/B17Gquote:
Originally posted by friarmeier:
Vapo, I had to stop and think twice about what the ARPF was...
Don't remember when my last post in the PF was, but I think I wrote off that Charlie Foxtrot in 06 or 07!

Entertaining, though, in a way.
aww Donnie Queen isn't that bad.. no one takes anything he says seriously...
except himself, Sponge WOW and maybe Colt 45...
besides, the PF can help one deal with the dysfunction in their lives at home or work.. knowing it really isn't that bad on second thought...
friar
25 October 2010, 10:37
seafire/B17GAddendum:
What is the Stupidest thing I have ever READ?
About ANY one of Hot Bore's Posts...
however most normal folks have learned to ignore them..