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Originally posted by dpcd:
Comparing a 150 grain M2 Ball Cartridge to a 150 grain 30-06 is like comparing apples to tomatoes. Not the same thing in any way.

He was comparing bullet weights, not bullet type. Or cartridges.

All three of my usual hunting partners shoot 30-06 rifles with various projectiles.
Traditionalists, and decent shots.
And two of them bring 30-30s for backup guns.

MY family used only Win mod 54 carbines in the day and WW1 and 2, ammo was not to be had but dad had an in with Ft, Bliss TX and we got all the milsurp stuff we wanted.. WE shot a lot of deer on both of our owned and leased Mexico ranches with that stuff, if it tumbled it was deadly but it didn't always tumble and it improved our tracking skills to no end!! Not good stuff at all IMO..We filed the jacket noses off to lead and if it expanded it worked a tad better at a 25% chance of expanding, by this time we could track a wounded deer by the shadow he left on a rock!!

don't have one, but load my friend's Tikka 30-06 to 2,745 fps w/180 gr Sciroccos and H4350. Can't imagine it not being able to take any non-dangerous game out there up to 500-600 yards.

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Originally posted by eny:

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Originally posted by dpcd:
I didn't say it didn't work; just that everyone else in the camp will have one.

Used to be, but now everyone I run into has 6.5 Creedmoor, and it shoots farther than an 06

Au contraire. Berger bullets work in a 30-06 just as well. And no, you dont need a custom rifle with a faster twist. 1-10 works fine for some pretty sleek bullets.

https://bergerbullets.com/prod.../?caliber=30-caliber

Dont buy the man bun hype.

Killed more game with the 06 than all others combined. J.C. Higgins Model 50, restocked, busted wrist, repaired with dowels and still shoots ½" groups. Cor-Lokt 165s over Accurate 2520 for about 2700 fps. Pull trigger, death ensues . . . quickly!

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Originally posted by crbutler:
The .30-06 works well...

It’s perfect unless you’re an individualistic gun nut who wants something the other guys don’t have.

I bought my first centerfire rifle, a .30-06, when I started deer and elk hunting in the late "60s. For most of the next 10 years that rifle easily kept my freezer full of deer, elk, and pronghorn antelope meat.

Then my hunting partner gave me a .30 Gibbs case. I thought that case looked so cool than I carried it in my pocket for several months until I had a gunsmith re-chamber my boring, but kills everything, .30-06 to .30 Gibbs. Then for the next 20+ years that .30 Gibbs kept my freezers full of elk, moose, caribou, and even mountain goat meat, and put many of those critters on my trophy room walls.

The 30-06 is well proven but mundane. The only 30 I have is the venerable 300 H&H. I feel the same about the 308, 270, 243 and the like.

I bought another ‘06 just the other day.

A Voere Titan II.

Great rifle in a great caliber.

Can’t have too many!

I have a Mod-54 carbiine in 06 set up with iron sights, and a Mod-70 pre 64 fwt 06 with a 2x7x48 Leupold..

Push come to shove Id hunt any animal on this earth with the 30-06! Ive witnessed elepant culls with a couple of PH using the 30-06 and .308 with solids.

I have a pre-war model 70 Carbine in 30-govt-06. Made in 1939. So mine is even more better! It’s wearing a Lyman rjs 48. I havent hunted with it yet, probably because it’s the most valuable gun I own and I have a tendency to trip in grassy creek bottoms while still hunting whitetail. That and i need to find a finer sized front sight. Current one covers @8” at 100 yds. Rear bridge is unmolested, so no scoping it sans finding a stith Mount. It is one of the smoothest feeding rifles I own. I recall arguments as a kid over the virtues of the .270 vs .30-06. I was in the O’Connor cult, so..anyway, I dont own a .270 any more. I came close to using this for my moose, but opted for my .338. Ultimately, a sound decision, but I’m sure the ‘06 would have sufficed. Having a scoped Carbine was the trump card. Now a better argument would be .308 vs 30-06. I have several.308’s..

The 30-06 vs the 308? Id just go with the gun itself as too fit and feel? ballistically they are too close to worry about..

My choice since I have both is the 308 in a Savage 99F for my saddle gun, otherwise give me my 30-06 pre 64 fwt Win mod 70. and for casual loafing hunt I like my Win 54 30-06 carbine iron sights or my two hi dollar "Mod Mauser, JP Sauer and Sons" again in 30-06

Im a fan of the 30-06!

I love my two

I carried my Sako AII full stock .308 this year. Rain and shine. I shot my cow elk at 40 yds. Any .30 cal would have sufficed. 150 gr barnes TTSX.

30-30, 300sav, 308win, 30-06, 300wm and one can go on.

Each is just a step above the other.

I have shot and killed game with them all.

Depending on the circumstances one can be better then the other.

Used properly they all can get the job done.

In my younger days I eschewed the .30-06 simply because it was "old" and "everybody had one". Well, while that was true, the more I hunted and shot the more appealing the .30-06 became to me. I found that it would take lighter big game at longer ranges essentially as well as any hot-shot small bore magnum, and that there was nothing walking around on this continent that it didn't have ample power to take as well as the big boomers. Yes, I own and use hunting rifles from .264 Magnum to .300 WBY to .416 Rem, but more often than not these days I pick up a .30-06. I use 150's for deer-sized game, and 180's for elk. Will toss in a 165 every now and then if I find them on sale (all handloaded, of course. Wouldn't dare pollute the barrels of fine rifles with factory ammunition ) .

Between myself and my son and two grandsons we now have twelve .30-06's. All but two of them are Sakos, while a Sako clone (Dickson Howa) joins them, as well as a Swedish Husqvarna which swam across the Baltic to join its Finnish cousins. Why so many? Just because.