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I have never really use a .30-06…. in my hunting career. Just never fell for it. I preferred the .280, 7mm’s, 300 HH and 300 WM’s. Well, I now am getting one. Kind like when your daughter marries a Texas Aggie…. That is how I feel… Ok, so what bullet and speed should I focus on? Thinking medium fast in a Barnes 165gr TTSX or similar. Talk me through this….. I may need serious counciling…. | ||
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Ross, There ain't no flies on a 30-06 shooting the 150 TTSX at 3000 fps. I'd have no problem shooting deer to elk size game with that load. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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I use the 168 TTSX in my '06. ______________________________________________ The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who are bereft of that gift. | |||
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In my favourite 30.06 I have used TTSX 130gn, 150gn, 165gn and to a lesser extent, the 180gn. I am convinced the one that can / will do it all is the TTSX 165gn. Hunting.... it's not everything, it's the only thing. | |||
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Way too common; I never use them. They are for people who use plastic Wal Mart rifles. Use something unique. | |||
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took my 30-06 to South Africa with 180 gr Nosler Partitions. Sprinbok,Impala, warthog, bushbuck, nyala, kudu, and never recovered a single bullet. 90 yard bushbuck to 324 yard kudu. here in the states it is the classic deer/elk cartridge for over a hundred years for good reason. | |||
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I didn't say it didn't work; just that everyone else in the camp will have one. | |||
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if your just gonna hunt deer and the like you don't need to get all fancy with the bullets and zoom out the speed. the original loading was a 150 at about 2700 fps. I run mine there with sierra soft points and the bullet goes where I point it. bang smack dead. all the way out to 300yds. if your gonna hunt giraffe or elephants then work on a bullet capable of that type of game. our Mule deer and Cow Elk sure don't need more. | |||
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Ross, what rifle? | |||
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I have good results (and accuracy) with 150 sp and I4350. | |||
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I use 180gr Hornaday's in 4 of my 06's 220s in my scout rifle. | |||
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Grew up hunting with a 30-06... soon as I started to read, I wanted something with "cooler" name and ballistics. Now I am back to the 06 with 180gr TTSX factory loads. It just works so well. | |||
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Rigby Highland Stalker and H-S Precision | |||
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In Africa and for things elk in the US I have used and been VERY happy with the 165 TSX. For whitetail in MO I use 165 Nosler BT’s. Haven’t had to shoot anything twice. I understand your feelings about a daughter coming home with an Aggie. In my world it would be like her dating a Mizzou grad. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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Reloading the 30-06 is far from rocket surgery. | |||
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Wow, what a gorgeous rifle! https://www.johnrigbyandco.com...he-highland-stalker/ There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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Wow, really slumming it with a Rigby. You poor soul. | |||
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That Rigby ad reminds me of dining in South Africa. When I was a boy the 'women's' length of pull would have been respectable for the average man's rifle. | |||
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A good 180 grain period. If you look at a ballistic chart you will see they shoot flatter than the lighter bullets. | |||
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by the title of the post i thought it was about blasers  | |||
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My Sako L61 uses Sierra 165 and enough 4064 to run about 2900 fps. I recall a conversation with a gun store clerk, he was unhappy his first trial load out of a new to him 44 mag wheel gun was sub 2 inches at a hundred yards. "What fun is there in finding the best accurate load your first time to the range?" Time for a different rifle here; different bullet weights,over all length, different propellants and fine tuning the charge weight, primers. All variables requiring range time. After the magic portions are determined, that rifle becomes boring. As in '3 shots at the range, another sub minute group, its ready for another big game season...' | |||
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It made its fame with a 180 gr at 2700 FPS. It would be my last two guns to part with (I have 2). I have use the 180 Nosler partition on Bison, a Hippo, observed it used on a cape buffalo and elephants. stick a 220 or 250 bullet in it and you have a .318 WR..My elk round for the last few years has been the 200 gr. Nosler Accubond, that bullet never ceases to amaze me at near 2762 FPS average of 10 rounds across the chronagraph, and 6 elk. It earned its reputation in the field and not on the internet or some magazine, that came later..Its simply an amazing caliber, end of story.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I run the 168 TTSX in one of my 30-06s and the 180 Accubond in the other one. Have only within the last few years migrated to the 30-06. Have only killed two caribou with the 168 TTSX and it worked just fine. Haven't killed anything with the 180 Accubond yet. | |||
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No counciling needed except after you use an 06 you will realize how much time was wasted on those other calibers.  Roger ___________________________ I'm a trophy hunter - until something better comes along. *we band of 45-70ers* | |||
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No Ray I think your last two guns you would part with would be ONE of your 30-06's and ONE of your 404's. Guarantee you would not leave your best 404 behind  | |||
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On my 06 the throat is too long for bullets 165 gr and smaller, just would never shoot them well. Went to 180gr Sierra Game Kings and it became a different rifle. Unless there's some legal reason I can't, this is the gun I'll grab if I need to hunt something medium or large. However, load development was frustrating until I went to larger bullets, so might want to think about making a chamber cast. (back in the olden days I thought the magic recipe was a small bullet going fast) I don't really have any experience with the modern generation of bullets but don't see them as a bad thing and considering how much money we sink into everything else the extra cost for premium bullets isn't that significant. for every hour in front of the computer you should have 3 hours outside | |||
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For whitetail, I'm kinda partial to cheap core-lokt 150's. My favorite allarounder for the 06 is 180 gr Partition. It just flat works for anything you want an 06 for. All We Know Is All We Are | |||
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You cant get any better than a Corlokt, a Nosler Partition, or a WW PowerPoint for that matter in the 30-06 IMO. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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When ya get tired of fiddling with all the exotic/erotic whiz-bang nonsense, just reach for an 06 with a 150 gn for deer, 180 gn for Elk. All things in life should be so simple. The next stop is the grill. AK-47 The only Communist Idea that Liberals don't like. | |||
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Probably the best advice most of us would ever get or give.... Thanks | |||
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The .30-06 works well. Premium bullets may penetrate a bit deeper, new propellants make it behave like the old .300 H&H, but it doesn’t stress cup and core bullets too much. It doesn’t recoil excessively. And you can find ammo almost anywhere for it. It’s perfect unless you’re an individualistic gun nut who wants something the other guys don’t have. That Rigby stalker is sure pretty! | |||
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. So its not just a 30odd6 its a Rigby 30odd6! Kind of special! Anja has used and uses a CZ 30odd6 for everything - Europe, Africa. Only rifle she tells me to take out of the gun room when she's going hunting. Youngest son also has one. I do not have one, because I use theirs! 150 grain or 180 grain bullets and the rest is point and shoot! I purchased the Highland Stalker in .275 some 7 or 8 years ago. Love it! When will yours be ready ? . "Up the ladders and down the snakes!" | |||
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In two weeks. I really am searching hard for a .275 as well.... or a 9.3x62 | |||
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Ordinary 180gr cup & core loaded for smallest SD, never mind what fps. Good for duiker to kudu/wildebeest and everything in between and more. | |||
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I have always had a 30/06. I have gravitated to 165 grain bullets. I handload but have a stash of Hornady Superperformance 165s. Haven't loaded 30/06 for years. I just keep shooting those 165s. Quick, Cheap, or Good: Pick Two | |||
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Used to be, but now everyone I run into has 6.5 Creedmoor, and it shoots farther than an 06  | |||
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Ross, Do not do it, I repeat do not do it. The 30-06 has the lowest CDI factor of all rifle chamberings. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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I prefer 180 grain bullets. 150 grain bullets were very effective, however, on fighting age foreign males in many wars, and work great on deer-sized game, too. My first centerfire rifle was an ‘06. I still have it and use it. It just gets the job done. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Comparing a 150 grain M2 Ball Cartridge to a 150 grain 30-06 is like comparing apples to tomatoes. Not the same thing in any way. | |||
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Welll actually……………….. Apples And tomatoes dk compare as they are both fruits. Wisely only on gets out in a fruit salad. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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