I know nothing about any of the Cooper made rifles and I would just like to know a little more about them. I would like to know if they'd be worth my money or if I'd be better off getting something else. So, I would love it if all of you guys would give me some feedback.

Be sure to ask them what percentage of the proceeds of the sale will go to anti-gun political candidates re-election campaigns.

Caleb A.

Cooper rifles are well known for their attention to detail in fit finish and accuracy. You can do a google search on Cooper firearms to locate their home page as well as finding numerous other articles written in different gun rags about the different models over the years. Cooper has master distributors in many states and do quite a bit of advertising in the various gun rags. You can also use the search feature of this board to look up past discussions of cooper riles. I'm sure with a modicum of effort on your part you can "arm" yourself with enough info to make an informed decision whether to purchase a cooper.
GWB


Cooper model 38 classic in 22 hornet and grey fox


test target included with rifle

I've never heard of Cooper rifles. Most of mine are Remington. Who makes Cooper?

"Who makes Cooper?"

Cooper makes Cooper.

"Worth the money" is a matter of personal opinion. Is it "worth it" to you to own a particular item? You can certainly buy a .30-06 that shoots as well for much less money, but the Coopers are well-made and finished firearms. In economic terms, how a Cooper's resale will hold up over a few decades as compared to some other rifle is yet to be determined.

The only feature I find lacking in the .30-06 is the single-stack magazine that limits your capacity to three (I believe). One of the advantages of the '06 over "magnums" (especially WSM series) is that a normal Mauser-type double-stack magazine can hold five rounds. This "six shot" capability is not all that often needed in hunting situations, but when you need it, you REALLY need it.

As I recall a friend of mine had several. One, a .220 Swift I think, really shot bugholes. In fact all of his were very accurate. I always thought that if I were to live in prarie dog country, I'd love to get a Cooper in .22-250 Imp. That is until that SOB donated to Osama. Now, as far as I'm concerned, he can stick his rifles where the sun don't shine. Just my opinion tho. Bear in Fairbanks

While Cooper rifles might be very good rifles, Dan Cooper can't be trusted. Not only did he donate to Obama's campaign, he made a public speech telling us he donated to Obama and how Obama is the best man for President.

After Cooper Arms received many calls and emails complaining about Dan Cooper, Cooper Arms announced that Dan Cooper stepped down as CEO. Since Cooper founded and owns the company, do you really believe that he doesn't control the company?

Bunch of BS in the real world. If politics controls your purchasing, you probably wouldn't own 2/3 of the stuff you have. You single out a gunmaker. Unless I'm mistaken, this hysteria over Obama is the greatest thing to ever happen to the gun industry. Maybe Cooper is just a businessman ahead of the curve. Or maybe he likes Obama, as did the majority of voters.

Wymple, our gun rights aren't just run of the mill politics. But we have already been through this. You also as much as admited gun rights aren't at the top of your list in the political arena. Don't worry others will do the heavy lifting.

Bear, Hoghunting, Dempsey.
I'm sure that you've heard the story about
ham and eggs. For the chicken, its no big deal. For the pig, its total commitment.

When the shit hit the fan over Dan Cooper's support for Barak Obama, I sent e-mails to both the company and his personal website. I also called them on the phone to express my displeasure. While being polite I stated that I would not be buying any new Coopers in the future unless there were some drastic changes in regards to D. Coopers involvement with the company.
I own one cooper rifle and would like to own more. I will not buy one new from the company.
However, having said that I have no problem buying a used one from a friend or a local gun shop that I frequent.
As I see it, they are inantimate objects, and fine examples of semi-custom rifles that are supremely accurate and are excellent in fit, finish and functionality. Buying them used does not benefit Dan Cooper.
Your thoughts please
GWB

I agree they are a fine rifle in their price range. I don't even care that Cooper supports Obama as long as he does it at the ballot box and not with funds generated by the sales of firearms. The response from the event had to be predictable. I can't imagine he didn't consider the impact of his actions. I've stated before if he made quality fishing poles his donation to Obama wouldn't have influenced my decision to buy his product at all. But a rifle maker, that's just too much for me. I'm so turned off I don't think I could find an interest in a used rifle even though you're correct, it doesn't benefit him.

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Originally posted by dempsey:
I agree they are a fine rifle in their price range. I don't even care that Cooper supports Obama as long as he does it at the ballot box and not with funds generated by the sales of firearms. The response from the event had to be predictable. I can't imagine he didn't consider the impact of his actions. I've stated before if he made quality fishing poles his donation to Obama wouldn't have influenced my decision to buy his product at all. But a rifle maker, that's just too much for me. I'm so turned off I don't think I could find an interest in a used rifle even though you're correct, it doesn't benefit him.

A gun maker contributing to an anti-gunner makes no sense at all and anyone that buys a Cooper is contributing to the anti-gun agenda.

Wake up and get real.. There are many places to buy a very accurate rifle with out helping the anti gunners cause.

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Bunch of BS in the real world. If politics controls your purchasing, you probably wouldn't own 2/3 of the stuff you have. You single out a gunmaker. Unless I'm mistaken, this hysteria over Obama is the greatest thing to ever happen to the gun industry. Maybe Cooper is just a businessman ahead of the curve. Or maybe he likes Obama, as did the majority of voters.

Yea, Cooper is ahead of his time; trying to get gun control here a bit sooner.

There is also a difference in having a need to buy and having an option to buy especially from a traitorous gun manufacturer.

I'm never buying a Cooper firearm new or used.

It is rediculous for anyone to assume that a guy who makes his living in gun manufacturing is an anti gunner. Furthermore, drawing lines in the sand will only lead to your own demise. Why would anyone care about your views when your votes are automatically adverse to them? It's just as sane to admit that supporting Obama would attract his mind more. What the fu*k do you think lobbyists do for a living? There are many ways to skin a cat. A hell of a lot of hunters think your NRA is out of touch with reality and more than you know support Obama as out POTUS. This belongs in the political forum.

I don't buy my firearms from anti-gun lobbyists. Whether you agree with the NRA or not, they support second amendment rights even if you think they go too far or not far enough.

You can argue that Ruger's position on gun control is a strategic business move. What Dan Cooper did was something else.

The Cooper rifles are very nice and a good value IMHO. However, I don't want to patronize a firearms manufacturer supporting a candidate that wants to take away or further restrict and limit my gun rights.

So yes, for a new rifle, I'll be shopping elsewhere. If you have your eye on a nice used one, buy if the price is right because they are very good rifles.

Cooper will have to go through a complete change of Ownership - just like S&W - before a lot of folks will consider them as somewhere to spend our money. Way too many excellent Firearm producers that understand, Voting in the ballot box, or with money, makes a huge difference to our Hunting and Shooting.

Same with the Politically Correct Bullets(no Lead) on the Leftist Coast.

I don't need any PCBs, nor Cooper firearms.

I do not know Dan Cooper but I would assume that the man is not stupid sp he obviously knew what it was he was doing.
He had to know that publicly supporting a candidate for president that did not support out right to keep and bear arms was more than just a risky career move.
So why did he do it?
I personally feel that he did it because he felt it was the right thing to do for the country, while at the same time knowing he was possibly killing the business he had created and loved.

So personally I think that what he did very well could have been a very courageous act.

Not the wisest business move most likely, but to assume that he did not know what ramifications his support for Obama would cause his business is to assume that he is worse than stupid.
Stupid people do not build companies like he did and produce some of the finest rifles
available.

So that tells me that he just might place his convictions and principles ahead of his business sense.
I like that idea.
You might not want him running your 401 but you damn sure might want him at your back in a fight.

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Originally posted by jwp475:

quote:

Originally posted by dempsey:
I agree they are a fine rifle in their price range. I don't even care that Cooper supports Obama as long as he does it at the ballot box and not with funds generated by the sales of firearms. The response from the event had to be predictable. I can't imagine he didn't consider the impact of his actions. I've stated before if he made quality fishing poles his donation to Obama wouldn't have influenced my decision to buy his product at all. But a rifle maker, that's just too much for me. I'm so turned off I don't think I could find an interest in a used rifle even though you're correct, it doesn't benefit him.

A gun maker contributing to an anti-gunner makes no sense at all and anyone that buys a Cooper is contributing to the anti-gun agenda.

Wake up and get real.. There are many places to buy a very accurate rifle with out helping the anti gunners cause.

Did you read my position on Cooper before you typed?


Wymple, I'll give you an A for effort but at the rate you're digging you may hit water soon. Most people in your shoes, you know people who vote for candidates with clear anti-gun positions, just pretend it isn't so. It isn't a opinion that Obama is not a friend of the gun owner, it is his record and stated opinion on several related issues.

I was going to buy a Cooper this spring, but his public support for an anti-gun agenda made me decide to purchase elsewhere.

My favorite jeans of all time were Levi Silver Tabs. I no longer purchase those because of the public stand that Levi Strauss took in favor of gun control.

Feel free to run your mouth; I'll vote with my wallet.

Well, at least Obama has stated that the Second Amendment confers an individual right. George W. Bush didn't even know what the word "confers" means, much less what a Constitutional Right is. How about we save our cussing of Obama until he actually takes a position as President we don't agree with?

In the meantime, I would buy a Cooper, but I'm too busy collecting Sakos made by the Socialists and Communists in Finland .

Cooper, ah yes the black rifle, as in black messiah.

No Coopers in my safe......never will be

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Originally posted by Geedubya:
Caleb A.

Cooper rifles are well known for their attention to detail in fit finish and accuracy. You can do a google search on Cooper firearms to locate their home page as well as finding numerous other articles written in different gun rags about the different models over the years. Cooper has master distributors in many states and do quite a bit of advertising in the various gun rags. You can also use the search feature of this board to look up past discussions of cooper riles. I'm sure with a modicum of effort on your part you can "arm" yourself with enough info to make an informed decision whether to purchase a cooper.
GWB


Cooper model 38 classic in 22 hornet and grey fox


test target included with rifle

50 yard target, more deception from Cooper? why not put the yardage on the target? Sure looks like liberal tactics to me.

Too expensive.

Wasn't Cooper Arms recently sold to a barrel maker? If this turns out to be true is that good enough for the people boycotting the company now?

Just curious what your opinions are on this.

Terry

I got this e-mail from Dan Cooper recently:

Good day folks.
As most are aware, I am no longer the proud owner of Cooper Arms. That honor now belongs to Mr Hugo Vivero, also the owner of Wilson Arms.
Please make a note of my new email address and stay in touch thru life.

My very best regards,

Dan Cooper
Founder/Cooper Arms

Think that clears up the political portion, unless you guys think Wilson Arms is "anti-gun". Doubtful I'll seem my 2 superbly accurate Coopers based on forum posting.

Pete A.

I thought worst of all was Dan Cooper lying about supposedly giving equell money to R. canidates as well as Obummer. Once that was found to be an outright lie, then they canned him from the co.

If he's truly gone, I mean all finacial ties severed and they change the name, I'll take them off my shit list.

I voted for mc'cain,
And am a long time republican. I keep hearing Obama is going to do this and that, but so far, not much have I herd him say or seen him do.
He is the president and until he acualy tries to do somthing I will suport him.
But I will keep my eyes on him.
And if we republicans had all the answers then tell me what happend th 35% of my Retirment, and how come my african hunting trip inverstment acount is now not likly to get me out of the US unless I wait till I am too old to enjoy it.
I'm goona wait and see. And I will buy the things I think are the best value for the money nomater who buids it, But I will give American companies a closer look
Its free country, Mr, Cooper might be wrong, but they guys I been voting for ain't been to swift either.
...tj3006

Tj, your retirement and hunting trip have nothing to do with Cooper Arms in the large scale of things. The economy isn't a simple product of who is currently in office. Even if it was you're inferring you'll accept handing over some gun rights to the anti's if you think in return they'll line your pockets with some cash. Believe me they will try to capitolize on the current atmosphere to advance their anti gun agenda thinking many, like you, will look the other way out of disgust for the current economic situation.

If you're looking for a new Cooper, you'll likely have a hard time finding one. Cooper is about six miles from my house and I have friends and neighbors who work there. When Dan Cooper danced on his Johnson a while ago, most of his bigger buyers (Sportsmans Warehouse, Cabelas) cancelled orders.

The test target is a long-running local joke, BTW. Wilson Arms, whose barrels Cooper used now owns the facility in Stevensville, MT. No telling what happens next.

Mark

Cooper rifles are not worth your hard earned money. Get something else like Savage or Remington.

Dempsy,
Rest asured I wont be looking the other way.
I pay my NRA dues and follow Fox news daily.
I also know that president bush who I voted for twice, proudly the 1st time and holding my nose the second , was the man in charge while all this happend.
barny frank and and the other demoes incharge of the senate banking committe are also largly to blame.
But it would not have happend under Reagan.
But , I can see what you mean about spending money with a guy who might give some of it to a politition you don't like.
But I would not write a guy off for such a thing.
All the same for about 500.00 less a guy could buy a kimber. I am prety darned happy with mine.
...tj3006

Coopers are nice rifles, but I would also look at the Kimbers. They make one in 30-06. Lou

quote:

Originally posted by Caleb A.:
I know nothing about any of the Cooper made rifles and I would just like to know a little more about them. I would like to know if they'd be worth my money or if I'd be better off getting something else. So, I would love it if all of you guys would give me some feedback.

CJ,

What features are looking for in your rifle? What price range are you shopping in? What attracts you to the Cooper rifles?

There are a lot of good rifles to choose from so, buying an off-the-shelf premium rifle is not as easy as it initially seems. With more information about what you want, we could move away from the politics and get back to helping you find the rifle of your dreams.

Sid

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I keep hearing Obama is going to do this and that, but so far, not much have I herd him say or seen him do.

Give him time.

BTW, I have a Dakota 76 in 7mm Remmy that will do the real group at 100 like that using factory ammo.

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Originally posted by Dr. Lou:
Coopers are nice rifles, but I would also look at the Kimbers. They make one in 30-06. Lou

All else being equal, I'd take a Cooper over a Kimber any day. At least with a Cooper, you know it's not a crap shoot.
Also, for you guys who want to give Obama and the Dims a chance, ya better check out HR-45. It's been introduced by a Congressman from Illinois who, BTW, has spent some time in the crow bar hotel. I've got it downloaded but can't cut & paste here. Sorry, don't have the link either. On top of all of that, Hillary's replacemenmt in N.Y. made some comments about supporting new gun control regs. I'm originally from her general "neck of the woods" & when I first heard she had a 100% rating from the NRA, I thought that at least we'd have 1 Senator from the Dim side that would support us. Well, nope! Heard this on Fox News last night (Fri.).
Boys, methinks we'd better get ready for the fight of our lives. Batten down the hatches.
Check ya'll out later. Bear in Fairbanks

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Originally posted by Pete A.:
...Mr Hugo Vivero, also the owner of Wilson Arms....

Hey Pete, Great news. Where is Wilson Arms located?
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Posted by Thomas Jones:
Obama ...is the president and until he acualy tries to do somthing I will suport him.

I remember the night of the election watching all the Ultra-Leftist Radical-Liberal Democrats in bliss at the results. Thought to myself that I didn't vote for him, but I'll wish him the best of luck.

Fast forward 10-12hrs to the next morning and obummer was in front of the cameras quicker than jessie jackson at a (give jessie money) protest. Still not a problem for me - until - obummer took a shot at a former First Lady. His scum-sucking low-life character created by the (wrong) Rev. Right's church(???) messages had apparently sunk in to the inner obummer depths.

Changed what I wised for him at that moment and so far, it hasn't happened. Still hoping though.

Have a custom gun made by a reputable gunsmith. It'll be just as good as the Communist Gun (Cooper)

Anyone who would donate to Obama is a complete Left Wing, Socialist, Commie, Moron, Bed-wetting Liberal, Anti-gun, Anti-capitalist, America-Hating, French-Loving, Sexual Deviant-loving, .........Disappointment to the Founding Fathers.

I hope I got my point across